What's your Strategy?
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Don't know what was hit hard - not Soryu in this attack! But the good news is that each attack causes Soryu to stop damage control work which allows the fires to grow and system damage to accumulate. By now she is likely "toast".ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
10/4/44
Shikuka: Hit hard.
ORIGINAL: Anachro
I'm not going to castigate you for your tactics, Canoerebel. I always enjoy your AARs and recognize this is a game and you are simply combating Obvert's tactics in equal measure. I do not fault you for it.
Nonetheless, I wonder if the US would have the political willpower and its populace the lenience to allow so many ships and men to be sacrificed in the way they have been in the battles around Shikuka. I have no doubt that the Japanese would have been absolutely willing to sacrifice their men in such a manner. I guess the question would be if the admiral that allowed so many men to die in such a way would have been sacked and court-martialed. Probably a pointless debate about factors outside the game, but something to think about. I wonder if this could be represented by upping the point values of Allied troops, ships and planes.
Now for the game going forward itself, what are your plans going forward once Shikuka is re-consolidated? Will you simply try to do a strat bombing campaign to eke out the VPs for a win? What will you do if Obvert is able to inflict unacceptable casualties on your remaining strat bombers?
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
It depends on the leadership.
If the Allies had somehow managed to get caught in a box canyon like this one, and if the Japanese had overwhelming power, what do you think a leader like George Patton would have done? I think he would have used every asset at hand in every way possible, especially if it seemed that just a few days might buy enough time for the cavalry to arrive.
What if the leader were Archer Vandegrift or Joe Stillwell?
What if it was a man of less willpower and resolve?
In these circumstances, I think the Allies would have done just the same. Remember, this isn't 1944 with a vanishing Japanese air force and navy. This is 1944 with an uber Japanese air force and a strong navy and the Allies starting far behind and facing the most desperate of situations.
There's no doubt what a committed leader would have done.
ORIGINAL: Anachro
I'm not going to castigate you for your tactics, Canoerebel. I always enjoy your AARs and recognize this is a game and you are simply combating Obvert's tactics in equal measure. I do not fault you for it.
Nonetheless, I wonder if the US would have the political willpower and its populace the lenience to allow so many ships and men to be sacrificed in the way they have been in the battles around Shikuka. I have no doubt that the Japanese would have been absolutely willing to sacrifice their men in such a manner. I guess the question would be if the admiral that allowed so many men to die in such a way would have been sacked and court-martialed. Probably a pointless debate about factors outside the game, but something to think about. I wonder if this could be represented by upping the point values of Allied troops, ships and planes.
Now for the game going forward itself, what are your plans going forward once Shikuka is re-consolidated? Will you simply try to do a strat bombing campaign to eke out the VPs for a win? What will you do if Obvert is able to inflict unacceptable casualties on your remaining strat bombers?
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Worth noting that you should have a ton of AM-type minesweepers with good Endurance.
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Worth noting that you should have a ton of AM-type minesweepers with good Endurance.
At least in my Babes based mod (scen 40) I am getting lots of 16 knot 8500 endurance AMs in late 44.
ORIGINAL: Anachro
I'm not going to castigate you for your tactics, Canoerebel. I always enjoy your AARs and recognize this is a game and you are simply combating Obvert's tactics in equal measure. I do not fault you for it.
Nonetheless, I wonder if the US would have the political willpower and its populace the lenience to allow so many ships and men to be sacrificed in the way they have been in the battles around Shikuka. I have no doubt that the Japanese would have been absolutely willing to sacrifice their men in such a manner. I guess the question would be if the admiral that allowed so many men to die in such a way would have been sacked and court-martialed. Probably a pointless debate about factors outside the game, but something to think about. I wonder if this could be represented by upping the point values of Allied troops, ships and planes.
ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn
Did you ask of others that which you would do yourself?
ORIGINAL: crsutton
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Worth noting that you should have a ton of AM-type minesweepers with good Endurance.
At least in my Babes based mod (scen 40) I am getting lots of 16 knot 8500 endurance AMs in late 44.
Yes, those are excellent ships with very good ASW assets.
