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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:43 am
by JocMeister
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Now if we could just find some killer bunnies for CR to release on his opponent ....

Or a holy handgrenade! [:D]

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:21 am
by Encircled
Its doesn't sound like PZJH to be "obvious".

If you can see the KB and it isn't doing anything, then (based on what he's done so far) you've got to assume that something is going on, especially as that Amphib bonus is still active.

Anyway, whatever it is, it will probably be "just a flesh wound"

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:23 pm
by Canoerebel
"What's your favorite color?"

"Blue! ...No, clear!"

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:13 pm
by CaptDave
I'm following both sides, so can't say anything about the war. I do want to say, though, how much I'm enjoying the reading. Both players are actually good writers -- unfortunately, that's a rare case. This is a pair of the easiest-to-follow AARs I've ever seen. Keep up the good work!

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:54 am
by Canoerebel
Thanks, CaptDave. Those are very encouraging words.

I'm sittin' around tonight minding my own business, when suddenly "Shazaam!", I think I know what Steve's gonna do.

I think he's coming for India. I think he's going to bring the KB and about six divisions and hit Socatra. Then he'd impose a blockade and try to vanquish India. Under that scenario, he wants to draw my troops forward towards his weak line west of Calcutta.

Operating on that assumption, I'll take a few steps:

1) Two Marine regiments inbound to India from Capetown will halt a few hexes from Socatra. They'll remain there until I know what's going to happen next (mainly with those seven enemy divisions recently at Singapore).

2) 27th/C USA Division arrives at Capetown tomorrow. That unit, too, will remain close to Socatra.

3) I already have two fully-laden minelayer TFs posted near Socatra.

4) All RN and USN ships in the IO will be available for duty.

If my thinking is wrong, there are only two other possibilities I can come up with:

A) Steve commits a large army to Oz to obtain bases from which to engage in a strat bombing campaign. (There's a high likelihood that this is going to occur.)

B) If Steve truly is "going soft" now, he'd devote some of those divisions to take Cocos Island, but otherwise might go on the defensive (unlikely, but not impossible).

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:17 am
by Canoerebel
First thing I'll do tomorrow is check Socatra's troop capacity. If it's 30,000, Steve probably doesn' t have any plans to make an assault. If it's unlimited, that's where my money is.

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:01 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

First thing I'll do tomorrow is check Socatra's troop capacity. If it's 30,000, Steve probably doesn' t have any plans to make an assault. If it's unlimited, that's where my money is.

You could be right - KB may be waiting on some massive amphib force + BB & CA covering forces to arrive.

I have the game open so I'll save you the trouble - "Scoodra" (copyright: Greyjoy) [:D] is unlimited, SPS Port 0, AF 5.
Strangely, although Diego Garcia is called an Atoll, its stacking limit is 60,000.
Addu is an Atoll and 6,000.

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:40 am
by Canoerebel
Thanks, BB, that's helpful information. I should have paid more attention to stacking limits long ago as that can really help put the puzzle together.

Right now, both Cocos and Diego are vulnerable. I have about 275 AV at each, with four forts. Steve can take those down with two divisions at each, in all likelihood.

At Addu, I have part of an Indian division, so Steve can probably take that even with the low stacking limit.

Scoodra/Socatra is a bear with an unlimited stacking limit. I really will have to watch our for a double reverse, where Steve wants me to think "Oz" but comes for India. So I will positioin the three USA infantry units inbound from Capetown just off Socatra just in case they are needed. I also won't get too frisky with my forward units that are gathering near Calcutta, just in case they are needed to the rear.

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:49 pm
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Thanks, BB, that's helpful information. I should have paid more attention to stacking limits long ago as that can really help put the puzzle together.

Right now, both Cocos and Diego are vulnerable. I have about 275 AV at each, with four forts. Steve can take those down with two divisions at each, in all likelihood.

At Addu, I have part of an Indian division, so Steve can probably take that even with the low stacking limit.

Scoodra/Socatra is a bear with an unlimited stacking limit. I really will have to watch our for a double reverse, where Steve wants me to think "Oz" but comes for India. So I will positioin the three USA infantry units inbound from Capetown just off Socatra just in case they are needed. I also won't get too frisky with my forward units that are gathering near Calcutta, just in case they are needed to the rear.


I failed to understand in the past and I still don't get it. He is commited in Alaska, in the SRA, in China and he landed several divisions in Eastern India. Ok, now someone please tell me why there should be any threat to Australia? [&:] No hrs or not, being able to move out 4000 av from Manchuria without paying for pp is one thing, but that still doesn't mean he can use dozens of divisions in major theatres outside of China at once.

In my last PBEM that was abandoned after the IJ player had his head handed over, he didn't commit on the whole map and only went for Southern Australia and was still stopped cold and this was a scen 2 game when he landed in Southern Australia within the amphib bonus. So tell me how PJH should be able to do all this at once over a far bigger area? Have played him before and can sure tell that he isn't a magician.

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:02 pm
by Keifer
Castor Troy - I think it's that time in the game where the Allied Player naturally fears the worst case in every theater. In about a game month, it should be time to start planning a counter-attack. With Japan so spread out he is vulnerable.

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:05 pm
by Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

First thing I'll do tomorrow is check Socatra's troop capacity. If it's 30,000, Steve probably doesn' t have any plans to make an assault. If it's unlimited, that's where my money is.

Bring lots of water bottles.

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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:07 pm
by desicat
Strangely, although Diego Garcia is called an Atoll, its stacking limit is 60,000.

Having actually been to Diego Garcia I can say with confidence that there is no way 60,000 men could set up a base camp and survive for any period of time. Where in the world did the designers come up with 60,000?

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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:39 pm
by Walloc
ORIGINAL: desicat
Having actually been to Diego Garcia I can say with confidence that even if the 60,000 men stood side by side in rigid formation there would not be enough land mass (including the shoreline out to waist deep water) to accommodate them all. Where in the world did the designers come up with 60,000?

Diego Garcia has 27.19 square kilometres of dry landmass according to wiki. 1 square kilometer = 1.000.000 square meters. So if each person occupy 1 m2 u can fit way around 1,000,000 *27.19 men or some what beyound 60,000 men. Not to say that one person in a nappy aged battalion column or line would only had consirably less than 1m2 to fit in.

What did u smoke when u visited Desicat? [:'(]

Rasmus

Edit: Blah u changed ur statement, not fair! [;)]

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:08 pm
by desicat
Diego Garcia has 27.19 square kilometres of dry landmass according to wiki. 1 square kilometer = 1.000.000 square meters. So if each person occupy 1 m2 u can fit way around 1,000,000 *27.19 men or some what beyound 60,000 men. Not to say that one person in a nappy aged battalion column or line would only had consirably less than 1m2 to fit in.

What did u smoke when u visited Desicat?

Rasmus

Edit: Blah u changed ur statement, not fair!

Before I saw your comment I decided to take away my exaggeration and edit my original post. I would not want to be one of the 60,000 people assigned if they ever decided to cram them in. Of course the Brits would make a killing on charging for billeting and rations.....

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:42 pm
by BBfanboy
My first thought was the obvious - someone accidentally typed an extra zero when they were setting up the database for DG.

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:03 pm
by Walloc
Hey CR didnt u an the family go to Yosemite national park this summer?

Kind regards,

Rasmus

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:58 pm
by Canoerebel
I apologize to those of you checking in for a game update.  My opponent has totally disappeared.  I'm sure it's work related, but I do wish he'd extend the simple courtesy of emailing, "Hey, no turns for the next xx days."  Or, "Hey, turns very sporadic this week." 
 
Now, to get some of my writing fix for the day, I'll respond to Walloc's question about Yosemite.
 
Me and my family of confirmed southerners made our first ever trip to California earlier this year.  We had a blast. We spent six nights in the state - four camping and two in hotels.  We saw some of the great sights:  Death Valley, Sequoia National Park, King's Canyon National Park, Yosemite National Park, Muir Woods National Monument, the Golden Gate Bridge, and San Francisco.
 
Yosemite is so spectacularly pretty that it's almost hard to believe.  We approached from the south after camping at Wawona Campground.  This may be the best way to approach the main valley as you get the full effect of Bridal Veil Falls, El Capitan and Half Dome.  Just an awesome sight.  Our main activity in the park was a long hike up to Middle Yosemite Falls.
 
I think my two favorite things in California were Death Valley and the Golden Gate Bridge.  The latter is just spectacular - great examples of mankind doing something majestic and exquisite.  The Statue of Liberty and the Gateway Arch would be two other examples of Americans doing something that is majestic, non tacky, and non commercial.  (Okay, the French did the Statue of Liberty, but you know what I mean.)  Sometimes we use our liberty to really do tacky things (billboards, corporate names for stadiums, and tayloring ballgame schedules to television's whims, for instance).
 
That's my opinion for today.  Tune back in tomorrow for the next installment of my blog.  [:)]

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:31 am
by 1EyedJacks
I'm glad you had a good time in the golden state.

TTFN,

Mike

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:06 am
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: desicat
Strangely, although Diego Garcia is called an Atoll, its stacking limit is 60,000.

Having actually been to Diego Garcia I can say with confidence that there is no way 60,000 men could set up a base camp and survive for any period of time. Where in the world did the designers come up with 60,000?

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wow, that's Diego Garcia? Aren't (weren't) there B-52 stationed?

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:24 am
by Walloc
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel



Now, to get some of my writing fix for the day, I'll respond to Walloc's question about Yosemite.

Me and my family of confirmed southerners made our first ever trip to California earlier this year.  We had a blast. We spent six nights in the state - four camping and two in hotels.  We saw some of the great sights:  Death Valley, Sequoia National Park, King's Canyon National Park, Yosemite National Park, Muir Woods National Monument, the Golden Gate Bridge, and San Francisco.

Yosemite is so spectacularly pretty that it's almost hard to believe.  We approached from the south after camping at Wawona Campground.  This may be the best way to approach the main valley as you get the full effect of Bridal Veil Falls, El Capitan and Half Dome.  Just an awesome sight.  Our main activity in the park was a long hike up to Middle Yosemite Falls.

Thx CR,

According to danish media and then it surely hasnt been in the US ones. U and ur family needs to be on the outlook for signs of Hansa virus symptoms, apparently the mice there have had it since june. Just a warning.

Kind regards,

Rasmus