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ORIGINAL: rkr1958

Another question. This one concerning US entry action. The d10 for US reaction to a Japanese capture of a Chinese city is listed as 2 to 4. How specifically is that calculated?

ORIGINAL: craigbear

Any advice on when to collapse Vichy. In my solo game, Axis never got any traction in N. Africa, so almost all those territories have been lost. Basically, just Vichy itself is left. At what point should it be done with, after all, it still has a small navy and land/air forces to protect from south Med invasion.

ORIGINAL: craigbear

Thanks. I was kind of thinking that way. Still a few more to save, and perhaps, some more ships to get destroyed before I take over then.

ORIGINAL: Centuur

ORIGINAL: craigbear

Thanks. I was kind of thinking that way. Still a few more to save, and perhaps, some more ships to get destroyed before I take over then.

That's one way to look at it. But: a hostile and active Vichy can send all saved build points to Germany in a trade agreement. And: what's worth more: a nice army sitting on the south coast of France or those build points? Don't forget: you need to garrison the southern coast of France against Allied invasion and it takes time to build units using those build points.

ORIGINAL: rkr1958

Just picked and starting reading a newly released book by Daniel Jackson, "Fallen Tigers". This book focuses on the US air war in China and Burma during WW2 and the large number of US pilots who went down deep in occupied China, were helped and rescued by the Chinese. This book also contrasts the size of large raids late in the war between the China-Burma-India (CBI) theater and European Theater of Operations (ETO). A large CBI raid might have been a dozen or two bombers escorted by a half-dozen to dozen fighters. In contrast, a large ETO raid was composed of 1000's of planes.

Also, covered was the Japanese push into and conquest of Burma. I believe originally 3 regiments crossed the border into Burma and captured Lashio, which was the western terminus of the Burma road. In all I believe it was 3 IJA divisions, equivalent to a crops that conquered Burma and threaten India.

Of course as I reading these types of books, I'm always thinking of how it relates to MWiF. Or actually how MWiF relates to actual WW2 history. In this particular case I was thinking about unit scale. Section 1.2 of the "Rules as Coded" states that a land unit represents an army or corps and optional division units represent smaller units. An aircraft unit represents 250 aircraft in 1939 which gradually increases to 500 aircraft by 1945.

It feels to me that these number are more applicable to the Western and Eastern Fronts. For North Africa, the Arctic (e.g., Norway & Finland) and especially CBI I think MWiF ground and air units really represent significantly smaller numbers. For me that's one of the beauties of MWiF is how a the size of a given unit counter represents is a function of theater. Now, one might ask how do you reconcile that the unit counter costs the same regardless of theater? For me the answer is logistics. That is, it costs more and takes more effort to get and keep that unit supplied, not to mention it's support logistics, in the more remote theaters where unit size is smaller.

Anyway, not really a question but something I thought was interesting and wish to share.

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

ORIGINAL: rkr1958

Just picked and starting reading a newly released book by Daniel Jackson, "Fallen Tigers". This book focuses on the US air war in China and Burma during WW2 and the large number of US pilots who went down deep in occupied China, were helped and rescued by the Chinese. This book also contrasts the size of large raids late in the war between the China-Burma-India (CBI) theater and European Theater of Operations (ETO). A large CBI raid might have been a dozen or two bombers escorted by a half-dozen to dozen fighters. In contrast, a large ETO raid was composed of 1000's of planes.

Also, covered was the Japanese push into and conquest of Burma. I believe originally 3 regiments crossed the border into Burma and captured Lashio, which was the western terminus of the Burma road. In all I believe it was 3 IJA divisions, equivalent to a crops that conquered Burma and threaten India.

Of course as I reading these types of books, I'm always thinking of how it relates to MWiF. Or actually how MWiF relates to actual WW2 history. In this particular case I was thinking about unit scale. Section 1.2 of the "Rules as Coded" states that a land unit represents an army or corps and optional division units represent smaller units. An aircraft unit represents 250 aircraft in 1939 which gradually increases to 500 aircraft by 1945.

It feels to me that these number are more applicable to the Western and Eastern Fronts. For North Africa, the Arctic (e.g., Norway & Finland) and especially CBI I think MWiF ground and air units really represent significantly smaller numbers. For me that's one of the beauties of MWiF is how a the size of a given unit counter represents is a function of theater. Now, one might ask how do you reconcile that the unit counter costs the same regardless of theater? For me the answer is logistics. That is, it costs more and takes more effort to get and keep that unit supplied, not to mention it's support logistics, in the more remote theaters where unit size is smaller.

Anyway, not really a question but something I thought was interesting and wish to share.

Always seemed to me the count of WiF "corps" for many of the Wallies actually aligns better with the number of divisions that they fielded. Then when you add WiF "divisions", in many cases you get more total divisions then they had.

ORIGINAL: rkr1958

Though I've been playing MWiF since 2014 (7+ years) there's still a few things I'm a bit fuzzy on wrt/rules since I haven't had to enforce them myself. One specific area is in air-to-air combat when you take a result "one lower" than rolled due to, for example, twin engine fighter or night combat (non night-fighter).

I understand the 7 possible results, which are: AX, DX, AA, DA, AC, DC and NE.

So if I take a result 1 less are the following correct?
(1) AX becomes DX?
(2) DX becomes AA?
(3) AA becomes DA?
(4) AC becomes DC?
(5) What about DC and NE?

Also, what about PX results? I see in the 0; +2,3; +6,7 columns that there are a mixture of DX results when the PIL dies and the PIL (could) live. How is that handled when having to take a result 1 less? For example, if your were fighting in the 0 column and your opponent rolled a 20 (AX/PX) would the next lower result be an 18 (DX/PX)? Or would it be a 16/17 (DX/PIL survives)?

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

I think that the twin engine penalty applies whether you are fighting a FTR or a CVP. Look at the rule: It does not say that rule applies when fighting a FTR, but a fighter. When one assigns CVPs to combat, one must choose whether it is a fighter or a bomber, just as one must choose whether a FTR is flying as a fighter or a bomber. A fighter is any plane in the fighter line up of an air-to-air combat, just as a bomber is any plane in the bomber line up.