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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:32 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Me: <I am tempted to check the back of his neck and see if he has a data port> So let me get this straight. The ZERO WASTE project has you drive around to the various sites and inventory the trash cans?
Thats like Al Gore flying around the world in a G5 touting the virtures of reducing our carbon footprint, and that we are all going to die of global warming .. [8D] Its the intent not the results that are important .. [;)]
That is quite an apt analogy....<gets idea>
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:15 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: sprior
Was it designed to penetrate before going off?
Yep.
the Grand Slam would reach near-supersonic speed, approaching 320 m/s, and penetrate deep underground, with the explosion causing a camouflet (cavern) and shifting the ground to undermine a target's foundation.
[X(] You used 'camouflet' in a sentence!
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:18 pm
by Argos
They're Knights of the Round Table.
They dance whene'er they're able.
They do routines and chorus scenes
With footwork impeccable.
They use words like camouflet.
They drink gin, whiskey and sherry I bet.
They're Knights of the Round Table.
They're forces are formidable,
But many times they're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable.
In war they're tough and able,
Quite indefatigable.
Between our quests we sequin vests and impersonate Clark Gable.
It's a busy life when you use the word camouflet
I have to push the pram a lot.
(with apologies to talented folks and all due notice of misused copyrighted material...)
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:40 pm
by sprior
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: sprior
Was it designed to penetrate before going off?
Yep.
the Grand Slam would reach near-supersonic speed, approaching 320 m/s, and penetrate deep underground, with the explosion causing a camouflet (cavern) and shifting the ground to undermine a target's foundation.
[X(] You used 'camouflet' in a sentence!
I tried using it to clean the dishes but that didn't work.
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:12 pm
by Crackaces
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: sprior
Was it designed to penetrate before going off?
Yep.
the Grand Slam would reach near-supersonic speed, approaching 320 m/s, and penetrate deep underground, with the explosion causing a camouflet (cavern) and shifting the ground to undermine a target's foundation.
[X(] You used 'camouflet' in a sentence!
That is a lot better than the Cap using it in a sentinece [;)] "Yes were are going to create a small camouflet under your child's skin" .. [:'(]
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:20 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Anyone using a word like "camouflet" is just blowing smoke.
Here is the more important question. Can you create a camouflet with a trebouchet?
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:57 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Anyone using a word like "camouflet" is just blowing smoke.
Here is the more important question. Can you create a camouflet with a trebouchet?
And if you camouflet a trebouchet, does that mean it's hidden from view?
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:08 pm
by Crackaces
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Anyone using a word like "camouflet" is just blowing smoke.
Here is the more important question. Can you create a camouflet with a trebouchet?
And if you camouflet a trebouchet, does that mean it's hidden from view?
Only if you create the camouflet with a trebouchet slinging a big wooden trojan rabbitt ....
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:26 pm
by BrucePowers
You can't reach supersonic speed with a trebouchet, unless you attach a rocket assist package to the projectile. Then it might be possible[:)]
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:42 pm
by Ol_Dog
The things you can learn on this forum are amazing!
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:56 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: BrucePowers
You can't reach supersonic speed with a trebouchet, unless you attach a rocket assist package to the projectile. Then it might be possible[:)]
What if you built a trebouchet that was large enough? It could be disassembled and air transported by swallows.
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:02 pm
by Cap Mandrake
OK, I'll bite. European Swallows?
I'm thinking an invasion of Northern Luzon is so early March 1943(c)

RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:06 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Of course, first we have to get a turn back. How much can you overbuild a nominal level 4 airfield?
Pretend I didnt read the manual.
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:14 pm
by Cap Mandrake
One thing for sure. An attack on Miyako-jima would pretty much stop the annoying attacks on San Jose.
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:17 pm
by Crackaces
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Of course, first we have to get a turn back. How much can you overbuild a nominal level 4 airfield?
Pretend I didnt read the manual.
A 0(4) airfield can be built up to a 7(4) or three levels higher than the figure in the paren's (X) .. level 7 airfields are magical because that is what is needed to support the B-29's if this game gets that far [;)] [Given North PI is under assault ] Not quite as Magical as level 9 airfields but something of note as you count hexes to the Home Islands ..
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:20 pm
by witpqs
Both airfield and port can be over-built by 3 levels (so a 4 could build to a 7). Construction gets progressively more difficult (takes more engineer-time and therefore supplies) as a port or airfield gets larger. IIRC there is another parameter that appears in the editor (scenario files) concerning the difficulty of building at the site in question. Presumably (but I don't know) the terrain affects the difficulty of building, and the 'difficulty' parameter influences the effort required to build. AFAIK that difficulty parameter is not displayed in-game.
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:27 pm
by Cap Mandrake
I suspect we will never reach April '44 and will never see a B-29
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:34 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Miyako-jima is clear terrain with unlimited stacking.
Ishigaki is "Wd", whatever that means. [:)]
Maybe "Watery Deathrap" or "Walt Disney (Resort)"
Note that I found the "terrain" key on my own.
Wonder what they have at Taihoku on NE Formosa.
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:41 pm
by Crackaces
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Both airfield and port can be over-built by 3 levels (so a 4 could build to a 7). Construction gets progressively more difficult (takes more engineer-time and therefore supplies) as a port or airfield gets larger. IIRC there is another parameter that appears in the editor (scenario files) concerning the difficulty of building at the site in question. Presumably (but I don't know) the terrain affects the difficulty of building, and the 'difficulty' parameter influences the effort required to build. AFAIK that difficulty parameter is not displayed in-game.
Interesting! I checked The scenario editor and I did not see any parameters on any of the locations besides where troops begin the game for a particular scenario ...Maybe this information is a part of the 'pwhex' file? I used an old editor and did not find any parameters indicating "difficulty of build" .. I would assume terrain alters the code somehow but that would be speculating ..
Anyway the Allies get those huge engineering units and they build stuff like lightning anyway [:D]
RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:02 pm
by Cap Mandrake
OK I looked it up in the Sceanrio 2 starting OOB (first time I ever looked at the Japanese side).
Ishigaki and Taihoku have static fortresses. The one at Taihoku has some pretty nasty 28 cm guns.
Maybe just Batan Is. (existing level 2) then Iriomote and Miyako-jima.
We would need something of level 5 or greater to suppress the airfields on Formosa (perhaps Altimonan on Luzon)