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RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:30 pm
by hellfish6
ORIGINAL: navyrecognition

Huntington Ingalls Industries Awarded Design Work For LX(R) Class Of Amphibious Ships
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Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII) announced today that its Ingalls Shipbuilding division has been awarded a $13.7 million contract (with incremental funding) to perform contract design effort for the U.S. Navy’s amphibious warfare ship replacement, known as LX(R).
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4319


New amphibs are cool, but I'm still waiting for that BMD/Arsenal ship to come to fruition.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:46 pm
by Dysta
ORIGINAL: hellfish6

New amphibs are cool, but I'm still waiting for that BMD/Arsenal ship to come to fruition.
I think to make current MK41-equipped ships armed with advance missiles have to be done, before the arsenal ship is put into the construction. Like I said from previous post, a fleet (around 3-7 Burkes and a Tico) loaded with huge amount of LRASM could do the disastrous damage already.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:39 pm
by Dysta
Chinese airspace industry groups and Ukrainian Antonov state-owned enterprises reached consensus at Beijing's Diaoyutai State Guesthouse, the two sides on the world's largest transport aircraft A-225 was officially settled in China signed a cooperation agreement. After signing the agreement, Chinese airspace Group will receive A-225 including engines all technical drawings and property rights.

http://www.chinaairspace.com/

Funny thing is, the company's detail from this website is still haven't been updated at all. However, with such escalation between Russia and Ukraine, the only thing China could make a deal is to using the old, globally obvious method same as purchasing the unfinished Varyag, and its blueprints that way.

No wonder the US is extremely pissed to see China have such of flexibility to 'steal technologies' by using front companies to buy foreign corporations, and then gone into dark instantly. However, the true crime of technology 'espionage' is greed, with money there's always have a work around.

Since China can make Y-20 by themselves, it's only matter of time to acquire more complicated aircraft blueprints, and I think if that's true, acquire An-225 before An-124 is a smarter move because of the famousness, and the downward development for smaller tonnage planes is easier than redesign a bigger version of An-124.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:39 pm
by Hongjian
ORIGINAL: Dysta
Chinese airspace industry groups and Ukrainian Antonov state-owned enterprises reached consensus at Beijing's Diaoyutai State Guesthouse, the two sides on the world's largest transport aircraft A-225 was officially settled in China signed a cooperation agreement. After signing the agreement, Chinese airspace Group will receive A-225 including engines all technical drawings and property rights.

http://www.chinaairspace.com/

Funny thing is, the company's detail from this website is still haven't been updated at all. However, with such escalation between Russia and Ukraine, the only thing China could make a deal is to using the old, globally obvious method same as purchasing the unfinished Varyag, and its blueprints that way.

No wonder the US is extremely pissed to see China have such of flexibility to 'steal technologies' by using front companies to buy foreign corporations, and then gone into dark instantly. However, the true crime of technology 'espionage' is greed, with money there's always have a work around.

Since China can make Y-20 by themselves, it's only matter of time to acquire more complicated aircraft blueprints, and I think if that's true, acquire An-225 before An-124 is a smarter move because of the famousness, and the downward development for smaller tonnage planes is easier than redesign a bigger version of An-124.

Antonov's Facebook Page:

https://www.facebook.com/antonov.compan ... 3179182645

ANTONOV COMPANY SIGNED COOPERATION AGREEMENT ON THE AN-225 PROGRAMME WITH AICC.
On August 30, 2016, ANTONOV Company included into Ukroboronprom SC and Aerospace Industry Corporation of China (AICC) signed Cooperation agreement on the AN-225 programme. In such way, the parties expressed their intensions as for long-term cooperation. The first stage of this interaction consists in construction of the second modernized AN-225 Mriya at ANTONOV Company and delivery of this aircraft to AICC. The second stage – organization of the joint series production of the AN-225 in China under licence of ANTONOV Company. Both stages will be realized in accordance with proper contracts.
Photo: fuselage of the second АN-225 at ANTONOV Company’s production facility.

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Basically, Ukraine finishes the 2nd An-225 and sell it to China. Future licence production agreement to be negotiated.

Well, even with one single An-225, China's power projection will be greatly boosted. Especially with the ongoing construction of the new Djibouti naval base.


RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:05 pm
by Hongjian
China and Ukraine agree to restart An-225 production

http://www.janes.com/article/63341/chin ... production

China and Ukraine have signed an agreement to recommence production of the Antonov An-225 'Cossack' strategic airlifter, media from both countries have reported.

The agreement signed between the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) and Antonov on 30 August gives China access to the aircraft's designs and technologies for the purposes of domestic production, according to China's STCN news organisation and the Ukrainian Business Channel (UBR).

Powered by six Progress D-18T engines and having demonstrated a world-record payload of 253.82 tonnes, the An-225 (named Mriya in Ukraine) is the largest transport aircraft ever to have flown. Having been originally built to carry the Soviet Buran orbiter, the aircraft made its maiden flight in 1988. Only one aircraft was ever finished to an airworthy standard and flown, and while work on a second example was begun it had become clear by mid-2001 that funding would no longer be provided and the project was shelved. The sole aircraft to be completed is now chartered by Antonov Airlines to fly outsized cargo throughout the world.

According to the reports, China now plans to fly the first of an unspecified number of An-225s in 2019.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:35 pm
by Dysta
I rather think what PLAAF will call them if An-225 is indigenously built and they can have it?

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:09 pm
by mikmykWS
Not sure but waiting for that first blurry picture!

Mike

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:45 pm
by thewood1
Isn't the PLA military in need of real and sustainable airlift capability? Why would they choose to take on a 40-year old cargo plane that has only one flying example, is unproven as a full production aircraft, and requires significant maintenance to operate with any kind of regularity?

Unless they planning a space shuttle-type program, this is not well thought out. The last number I remember seeing stated that the current per plane cost is close to $400M. Although it being famous is surely a big factor...note the sarcasm...I would imagine you could buy at least a dozen An-124s.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:04 am
by kevinkins
Maybe they are just trying to stick it to Russia in some way. Like you mentioned, the deal seems odd.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:29 am
by Dysta
Or they really want something to be delivered inland with titanic size, and deployable at mountainous region like Xinjiang and Tibet. They needs lots of large sized materials and construction devices for "One-Belt-One-Road" strategy westward.

It's beyond any kind of miracle if China really claimed they will made its maiden flight at 2019, let alone mass manufacturing them. Even military find it very difficult to use, unlike Y-20 that is big enough for most army hardwares, and lesser runway requirement.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:45 am
by Cheechako
ORIGINAL: navyrecognition

Exclusive: Pictures of the First LRASM Surface Launch Test at Sea
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Navy Recognition obtained from Lockheed Martin some exclusive pictures showing the first Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) surface-launch test at sea. The pictures show the LRASM being launched from a Mk 41 vertical launch system (VLS). Lockheed Martin first issued a press release about this test in July this year.
more at: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4326


Neat - shame they didn't make the 35 fit a JASSM because the ER and LRASM would be a potent fit for the A and C model ( I know they can carry them externally). Seems like adding back in the land attack to the LRASM would be a no brainer, especially if the DD1000 could carry them. Low observable ship packed full of LRASMs with sea/land targeting?

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:07 am
by xavierv
ORIGINAL: Dysta
Japan will be extremely happy to buy them too.
And Australia, and UK...

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:54 am
by Dysta
ORIGINAL: navyrecognition

ORIGINAL: Dysta
Japan will be extremely happy to buy them too.
And Australia, and UK...
They both lacks of vessels with MK41 (Aust will have 3 new destroyers with 48 cells each), but I think either with adapters or externally mounted launchers are vilable solutions.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:11 pm
by Anathema
ORIGINAL: Dysta
ORIGINAL: navyrecognition

ORIGINAL: Dysta
Japan will be extremely happy to buy them too.
And Australia, and UK...
They both lacks of vessels with MK41 (Aust will have 3 new destroyers with 48 cells each), but I think either with adapters or externally mounted launchers are vilable solutions.
The RAN are also replacing the 8 Anzac class frigates with 9 'future' frigates and have already narrowed the selection to the BAE Type 26, Fincantieri FREMM and Navantia F-100 which all have a VLS and both the Type 26 and F-100 mount the MK-41.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:12 pm
by Anathema
ORIGINAL: Dysta
ORIGINAL: navyrecognition

ORIGINAL: Dysta
Japan will be extremely happy to buy them too.
And Australia, and UK...
They both lacks of vessels with MK41 (Aust will have 3 new destroyers with 48 cells each), but I think either with adapters or externally mounted launchers are vilable solutions.
Apologies for the double post, please ignore or delete.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:24 pm
by mikeCK
ORIGINAL: Cheechako
ORIGINAL: navyrecognition

Exclusive: Pictures of the First LRASM Surface Launch Test at Sea
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Navy Recognition obtained from Lockheed Martin some exclusive pictures showing the first Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) surface-launch test at sea. The pictures show the LRASM being launched from a Mk 41 vertical launch system (VLS). Lockheed Martin first issued a press release about this test in July this year.
more at: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4326


Neat - shame they didn't make the 35 fit a JASSM because the ER and LRASM would be a potent fit for the A and C model ( I know they can carry them externally). Seems like adding back in the land attack to the LRASM would be a no brainer, especially if the DD1000 could carry them. Low observable ship packed full of LRASMs with sea/land targeting?

I believe the US Navy is looking hard at the Naval strike missile made by Norway. It does fit internally and the F 35. There's going to be a second round of bidding for the long term anti-ship missile which will include all LRASM, upgraded tomahawk and the Naval strike missile. I believe the current batch of LRASMs was an "emergency requisition " to fill a current need

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/nor ... ile-03417/

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:59 pm
by Hongjian
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china ... SKCN11809E
China says developing new type of long-range bomber

China is developing a new long-range bomber, the head of the Chinese air force was quoted as saying in state media on Friday, the latest move in its ambitious military modernization program.

China has already improved its ability to strike at targets far from home and there will be further improvements in the future, the Global Times quoted air force chief Ma Xiaotian as saying at an air force open day.

"We are now developing a new generation of long-range bomber, and you'll see it in the future," Ma said, according to the paper, without elaborating.

China has been ramping up research into advanced new military equipment, including submarines, aircraft carriers and anti-satellite missiles. This has rattled nerves regionally and in Washington as China takes a more muscular approach to territorial disputes in places such as the South China Sea.

The air force, which has for years relied on large numbers of Chinese copies of Russian aircraft, is now also developing its own stealth fighters. In July, it put into service a new, domestically developed large transport aircraft.

Ma said the air force had entered into a "transformation" stage, changing its focus from quantity to quality, the report said.

Sino B-2 possibly soon.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:37 pm
by Hongjian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bw-NRNytSQ

New HQ-16 upgrade confirmed in service.

The new HQ-16B (right) is longer than the HQ-16A, indicating extended range, and has different strakes positioned at the center of the missile's body, that makes it resemble the 9M317.
According to earlier rumors, the HQ-16B would also have a different guidance system/seeker, as the SARH guidance of the previous HQ-16 variants was identified to be it's main weakness, especially in terms of multi-target engagement capability and OTH-engagement. Whether the HQ-16B now has active radar or is equipped with an secondary ImIR seeker is unknown.

EDIT:
According to veteran PLA analyst Henri K., the HQ-16B seems to have Active Radar Homing Seeker.
http://www.eastpendulum.com/nouveau-sam ... re-service

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It appears that the HQ-16B was already in service by late 2014, as it was shown on a PR release dating from Oct. 2014 by the PLA, used by the 21st Group Army during fire-drills in the Kunlun Mountains:

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At the moment, it appears that the HQ-16B is land-based only. The Navy's upgraded HQ-16 is said to be designated HQ-16C.



RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:00 am
by Dysta
Using an old SAM as a target drone, for another 'old target drone'??

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2010/ ... epted.html

Such test was conducted to intercept a target that could reach Mach 3 or above with substantial maneuverability. But it also is a rare sight that becomes an anti-anti-air missile operation, with identically the same model (the drone should be slightly slower, otherwise both missiles with same speed will not be interceptible).

It's 6 years ago though, which is only 1 year old for HQ-12 in PLA inventory. Reason for such test remain unknown.

RE: Naval and Defense News

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:38 pm
by kevinkins