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Don't be so sure about WinDef yet.

Last week I was running with no WinDef. There's something with 2004 that isn't permitting the code to execute. My bet is still that it sees it as malicious somehow. Since the 2004 changelog doesn't tell me anything I suspect something was stealth changed. I have no other issues with any other program but this one, and go figure, it's a modified .exe.

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

Don't be so sure about WinDef yet.

Last week I was running with no WinDef. There's something with 2004 that isn't permitting the code to execute. My bet is still that it sees it as malicious somehow. Since the 2004 changelog doesn't tell me anything I suspect something was stealth changed. I have no other issues with any other program but this one, and go figure, it's a modified .exe.

Other games have problem with this version of windows.... eg

mass effect 1 and mass effect 2
Forza 4
Diablo III
Automobilista 2
and more........

Bacon.exe isn't a game. It's a modified exe. DW.exe works. Bacon doesn't. I have me2 and diablo which run fine. bacon runs for no one.

The event id triggers this as a DEP issue but turning DEP off doesn't work.

Corrupt system files, while possible, isn't it either. I've run sfc and dism to repair more than once.

I've nuked .net and directx etc, etc...

How much do I have to change or investigate to come full circle and realize a MODIFIED exe is broken in 2004 and that is where the problem is? No offence because it's amazing, but lets get real.

This is new

OK guys, thanks for the continuing work. I know it is frustrating. I'm hopeful with this one.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhoru5ui85g8u ... s.exe?dl=0

Version 1.81r. When I copied the exe into my Distant Worlds my Bitdefender AV flagged it so I had to add it to the exception again. None of the others have done that before so make sure you still have it as an exception.

This version also includes a fix for fleets sometimes going and chasing ships across the galaxy when set to defend.

Fingers crossed.

aaaaaand..... working!!!

RogerBacon you did it, from the .exe and from the launchwer it works fine.

edit: also, didn't pop up anything from Windows Defender

working for me. DW - Starfall (1.12-Corrected version) compatible?

ORIGINAL: albertrc77
RogerBacon you did it,

No, we did it. I couldn't have done it without the help of everyone who tested files for me.

Awesome!!, great to see the community worked together to get this fixed...

Well done Roger........

I'm having game freezes and loading issues with Version 1.81r, but I'm running it on Win10 with out the 2004 patch.
I disabled windows defender and also tried the Large Address Aware still had same result
Should I update to version 2004?

Out of memory
See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

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System.OutOfMemoryException: Out of memory.
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at DistantWorlds.Controls.HoverMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
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Good work.

Two things:

If you have a CTD sometime after starting a game try disabling controlled folder access in Windows Defender. Worked for me.

Is anyone else experiencing a "flickering" in the research panels? I'm going to have a seizure.

Edit: I too received the OoM error Don listed above but only when I went to save. I'm running 2004.

Tried new game WD totally disabled this time no OoM message, but just a straight crash to the desk top.

I did not use Large Address Aware on the 1.81r build. I wanted to eliminated as many variables as possible that might have been contributing factors. You can run LAA and see if it fixes memory issues.

I had flickering on the research screen years ago with Windows 7 both vanilla and Bacon mod. It always forshadowed a crash when I would try to save the game. My new computer didn't have the issue but I never did figure out what caused it. Retreat, does the game crash when saving after you have the flickering research screen?

Flickering is constant as is the save issue... investigating. Otherwise the game runs fine, but I'd like to save

I did a complete reinstall as a last resort

The game runs and switches themes normally but with bacon it will run but I can't switch themes.



The jpg is there so idk.

Large address aware is the problem for loading RetreatUE and saving games. I haven't added the DasBlue part yet so fingers crossed...

It's still broke. I don't want to put any effort into it anymore.

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

It's still broke. I don't want to put any effort into it anymore.

Running the exe through LAA didn't fix the flickering and save game issue?


Is anyone else having this problem?

I apologize Roger... frustrations you know. They get the better of me.

I should have explained better before. LAA fixed the flicker and save issue. Good, but I was still getting an intermittent crash that I thought I took a screenshot of but I didn't.

So I guess I have to play after all to check it out.

ORIGINAL: RogerBacon

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

It's still broke. I don't want to put any effort into it anymore.

Running the exe through LAA didn't fix the flickering and save game issue?


Is anyone else having this problem?

Will test it when I get back home in a few hours time




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