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RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:24 pm
by sprior
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Admirar Rod Fabertong is already starting a new game. I think they see the writing on the paper walls.

Want to ask them to swap sides and do it again?

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:45 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: sprior

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Admirar Rod Fabertong is already starting a new game. I think they see the writing on the paper walls.

Want to ask them to swap sides and do it again?


That is a cool idea. 2 questions:

1) Do you think it might be misperceived as a slight? He described it as fighting a "lost cause" but it might be premature?

2) Do you know ANYTHING about the Japanese economy...because I sure don't [:)]

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:06 pm
by sprior
1. I don't mean right now but when they're ready to throw in the towel

2. Not much, but the cheap seats are full of people ready to share how we should be doing it.

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:26 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: sprior

1. I don't mean right now but when they're ready to throw in the towel

2. Not much, but the cheap seats are full of people ready to share how we should be doing it.

Sounds rike a pran!

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:39 pm
by Cap Mandrake
************April 13, 1943(c)***********

PI: Singlet ASW details don't work very well...but at least the 21st Marine taffy seems to get past the IJN subs.

Sub attack near Bataan at 77,77

Japanese Ships
SS I-27

Allied Ships
PG Herald, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Jap DD's inbound to Iba?

ASW attack near San Fernando at 79,74

Japanese Ships
DD Suzukaze
DD Murasame
DD Hayashio
DD Ushio
DD Fubuki

Allied Ships
SS Gato, hits 5


Yes, yes they are.....&*#(@..another fast minelayer swimming with the fishes.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 78,75, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Hayashio
DD Murasame
DD Suzukaze
DD Fubuki
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
DM Ramsay, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DM Sicard


They begin to peel back the layers of the onion. An ASW vessel, then the two PT boat squadrons

Night Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 78,75, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Hayashio
DD Murasame
DD Suzukaze
DD Fubuki
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
SC-631, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

and


Night Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 78,75, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Hayashio
DD Murasame
DD Suzukaze
DD Fubuki
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
PT-224
PT-231
PT-241
PT-296
PT-298, Shell hits 1, and is sunk


Visibility is 12000 yds.


Night Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 78,75, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Hayashio
DD Murasame
DD Suzukaze
DD Fubuki
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
PT-190
PT-222, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-258


And, finally, paydirt..except the big amphib convoy isnt here yet...neither is Massachusetts. These are supply AK's just arrived from Batangas.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 78,75, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Hayashio
DD Murasame
DD Suzukaze
DD Fubuki
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
SC-741, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Knoxville City, Shell hits 20, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Jalabala
xAK Beltana, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage


They are attacked by yet two more Allied subs on their egress...then the sun comes up

SBD's from Iba...miss

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 80,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 11

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
SBD-3 Dauntless x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Suzukaze
DD Ushio
DD Fubuki


Then the TBF's plant a couple of 500 Lbrs on Murusame.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 80,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 13

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Murasame, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:46 pm
by Cap Mandrake
USN losses:

DM
2 x PT
2 x SC
2 x AK damaged

IJN losses:

Murasame damaged.

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:49 pm
by Cap Mandrake
They go after our transports at IBA, losing at least 2 Bettys and 5 Sonias with no Allied losses.

B-24 raids on Calrk again fragmented with at least one 24 lost and many damaged. I need to check who is running Seventh Air Force.

Raid on Manira is a bit better.

A couple of sticks of paras dropped on Cabantuan (east of Clark) They land on a regiment of Ronsons.

Ground combat at Cabanatuan (80,76)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 60 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Defending force 945 troops, 0 guns, 91 vehicles, Assault Value = 29

Allied adjusted assault: 2

Japanese adjusted defense: 14

Allied assault odds: 1 to 7 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /7

Defending units:
23rd Tank Regiment

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:58 pm
by Cap Mandrake
LYB strength at Altimonan. Time to attack.

Ground combat at Atimonan (80,79)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2677 troops, 51 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 124

Defending force 2783 troops, 22 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Assaulting units:
34th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
20th JAAF Base Force
3rd Naval Construction Battalion
30th JNAF AF Unit


And at Manira. Not sure who is besieging whom. [X(]That was dumb. I should have just used the arty. Counterattack risk, me thinks. We need a bombardment and tac air tomrrow. Elements of two divisions, 3 more regiments, Army HQ and arty.


Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6739 troops, 122 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 399

Defending force 34701 troops, 281 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 1030

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
151 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
5th Marine Regiment
8th Marine Regiment
182nd Infantry Regiment
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
98th FA Bn /1

Defending units:
52nd Division
19th Division
5th Makapili Regiment
4th JAAF AF Bn
7th Shipping Engineer Regiment
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
14th Army
28th JAAF AF Bn
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Garrison Unit /1

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:15 pm
by leehunt27@bloomberg.net
Manila, Clark & Bataan will be brutal. In a PBEM game i'm playing as the Japanese in fall 1942 I've got Manila & Clark airfield to Fort 8 with mountains of supply.

Anyway, is this map of Korean invasion plans a serious consideration over Kyushu?

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:23 pm
by Cap Mandrake
The problem with Kyushu is the LYB's can walk over from Honshu and every geisha is likely to have an exploding bustier or something. I'm sure it's like stepping on a fire ant colony.

It's still April 43 and we have only two CV's. I will have to look up what happens when you land on Kyushu. Probably reserves pop up everywhere. Don't think we have enough infantry divisions yet..or fighters.

Of course, division after division being of the LYB's shipped down from Manchuria to attack a Korean lodgement is not that appetizing either.

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:27 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Air losses from the previous day. We slaughtered the vals the previous day so they throw Kates and Bettys at us.

Looks liek some Tojos and Nells are getting trashed on the ground at Rangoon.

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RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:03 am
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

The problem with Kyushu is the LYB's can walk over from Honshu and every geisha is likely to have an exploding bustier or something. I'm sure it's like stepping on a fire ant colony.

It's still April 43 and we have only two CV's. I will have to look up what happens when you land on Kyushu. Probably reserves pop up everywhere. Don't think we have enough infantry divisions yet..or fighters.

Of course, division after division being of the LYB's shipped down from Manchuria to attack a Korean lodgement is not that appetizing either.

Yes. The Japanese player gets beaucoup accelerated reserves if you land on the home islands. Plus, all of the restricted infantry divisions on the home islands will have something to do with their time now-getting railed into the beachhead is a given.

So...you don't have enough amphibious naval air support, not enough troops, not enough fighters and not enough suppries? Meh. Go ahead-invade Kyushu in 1943 anyways. What could possibly go wrong?

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:28 pm
by Cap Mandrake
9,000 Arried vs. 54,000 LYB's at Manira. If THEY attack US do we get the urban terrain bonus?

What to do?

1) Bombardment tonight.

2) Fighter sweep with P-38's and then air to ground attacks tomorrow with the B-24 and maybe mediums from San Jose.

2) Cross the hexside from the SE with the armor there, buttoning the LYB's up from the South.

4) Get some construction engineers in there to build forts and then start the long seige.

I think it would be a mistake for them to attack with our Shermans and Stuarts and the supply consumption it would entail.

We also need to free up some PP's to release the "lost" regiments of 24th, 25th ID and Americal.

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:08 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

9,000 Arried vs. 54,000 LYB's at Manira. If THEY attack US do we get the urban terrain bonus?

Yes. IIRC, Manira is "light urban" (Clark is heavy) and therefore a 1.5x defensive modifier.

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:15 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Manira is urban light. Clark is jungle/rough

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:22 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

9,000 Arried vs. 54,000 LYB's at Manira. If THEY attack US do we get the urban terrain bonus?

What to do?

1) Bombardment tonight.

2) Fighter sweep with P-38's and then air to ground attacks tomorrow with the B-24 and maybe mediums from San Jose.

2) Cross the hexside from the SE with the armor there, buttoning the LYB's up from the South.

4) Get some construction engineers in there to build forts and then start the long seige.

I think it would be a mistake for them to attack with our Shermans and Stuarts and the supply consumption it would entail.

We also need to free up some PP's to release the "lost" regiments of 24th, 25th ID and Americal.
Bomb Manira? Your bombs better not hit Papa Marcos' corner store, residence and brothel! Mrs. M. just spent three days arranging her shoes in the closet in the order she will wear them for the next three years. [:'(]

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:19 pm
by Cap Mandrake
***********Pranning**********

JJ marched a portion of his troops at Clark into Iba. 2 units, identity unkown. An attack is likely. So far, we have only about 400 paratroops there and some aviation support guys (26 assalut points). This is bad. The one day delay when 21st Marine stopped to refuel the escorts an do some sportfishing was crucial. 21st Marine and a USN base support unit are embarked aboard a mixed APA, AP, AK group on station at Iba. They arrived at the end of the day and have not started to unload yet.

All may not be lost because the attack won't come till the end of the turn. Some of 21st Marine will get ashore. Those potions aboard the two APA's should be completely ashore. In addition, most of the assualt infantry of 7th Australian Div is aboard a fast, mostly APA convoy 160 mi SW of Iba. They will brave the sub screen and head for Iba instead of Loag. If there is no surface raid and they dont get held up by the subs they may partly get ashore as well. A BB is detached from the Wasp taffy to aid Massachusetts at Iba.

Most of the airplanes were moved to Lingayen or Batangas but a squadron of SBD's will stay to deal with any surface threats. SBD's and TBF's from Luzon and TBF's from San Jose will be se tto ground attack.

B-24's hit JJ ground troops at Manira. Carriers take up station NW of Iba.

Could be exciting.

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:45 pm
by zuluhour
Those potions aboard the two APA's

Love potion #9?

Can't help it, I've been reading between the lines since I bought between the Buttons.

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:49 pm
by zuluhour
Besides, anything to stir up a story line, the G&*D#$% emporer is looking for another war when he should be pranning right here.

ps. "bought" should be in Caps ref prior post.[;)]
pss. Man that was a long time ago.....

RE: Mars vs. Venus

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:51 pm
by zuluhour
B-24's hit JJ ground troops at Manira. Carriers take up station NW of Iba.

Could be exciting.

Forgive me for forgetting and not skimming back through five thousand posts or so, but does the IJN still posses Musashi or Yamato?