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ORIGINAL: Doggie
You may be here to talk tanks, but baby bear is here to talk trash:

Some things you cannot change can ya? Next time you will call me nigger by accident. You know what I am only W in WASP. You can start throwing stones.

you are not strong enough already to rule the world alone does not equal
In other words, "Americans suck." !

Where is the connection? The imminent lack of logical relation between the two statements is why I say your thinking is as simple as a stick. The meaning of my sentnce is: The world's economy, which is more and more becoming more important then the strength of the armed forces, has grown faster than the US did. Europe is more or less united, China, India is growing faster an faster and even Russia is getting its positions back.

What does all this continued leftist agi-prop have to do with tanks?

Coming from an ex comie country, of which you -as a highly educated person- are probably aware, agitprop and leftist are insults where I come from. So if you want to start a flame war klanboy, here I am (see also may answer on nicks). To continue in your highly PC style what does your racist mumble jumble has to do with tanks either?

It seems blatent hypocrisy is becoming a pattern here.

You know I keep rules as long as they are not used against me. It was you who started mocking nicks. So in the sense of 'Do not fire unless fired upon' you have relieved me of the necessíty to be polite with you. You cant defeat your enemy if you dont play by his rules. I adapt.

When you're digging yourself into a hole, the first step is to stop digging.
While a child's eye view of world politics can be entertaining, tantrums can be tedius. The first step in being taken seriously is to be more respectfull of the grown-ups.

1. Judging from your adolescent net prophet style I am not sure you are elder than me.
2. I was taught to respect the elder, but also to be proud of my heritage, my country.
Why should I show respect to you? You have insulted both. You join a conversation and start your racist rumble jumble (after 50kerry has openly admitted being arrogant, a really nice personal feature[;)]) . Entering with blazing guns is a sure way to get some firing in return.

See your first post in this thread

RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 1/24/2007 1:44:59 AM
Doggie
Stuff like this is the reason Americans don't care what you think. What has your left wing opinions got to do with tanks?
You're clearly out of your league here so all you got is "Americans are doo doo heads"
"Hungary, EU" Good luck with the fourth reich.

I am not your slave, so I can have a different opinion. A place where everybody has the same opnion is called a dictatorship. May I ask which counbtry do you live in? Which system you support? [;)][:D]

Edited for spelling.

Ok I added in haste my explaination in the use on concentration camp as a propoganda tool. I was unaware that the Brits actually used that term and not interment camps. My examples of insurgencies being put down still stands though.

Some things you cannot change can ya? Next time you will call me nigger by accident. You know what I am only W in WASP. You can start throwing stones.

Huh? Where did he call you a nigger? I've known doggie for 5 years (Damn has it really been that long ago I came to Matrix?) and have never seen him call anyone a nigger. Trust me being a black man I would have picked up on it (yes Chicken I'm using my trump card again).

Let's try to take this thread back to some reasonable topic. If people want to play with each other, please go start another thread - or return to other boards.



Anyways, the Churchill tank was pretty cool:



All the neat variations - the Crocidile flame tank:



The carpet layer:



And the AVRE - with the spigot mortar:



The pictures of them littering the Dieppe beaches always stuck with me:

ORIGINAL: Knuckles_85

Some things you cannot change can ya? Next time you will call me nigger by accident. You know what I am only W in WASP. You can start throwing stones.

Huh? Where did he call you a nigger? I've known doggie for 5 years (Damn has it really been that long ago I came to Matrix?) and have never seen him call anyone a nigger. Trust me being a black man I would have picked up on it (yes Chicken I'm using my trump card again).

He did not say it but it would fit very well in his extremist style. Sorry if I insulted you with this word.

He did not say it but it would fit very well in his extremist style. Sorry if I insulted you with this word.

Ah. So, Doggie would call someone a "nigger" if Ursa were the one writing Doggie's replies.

Interesting.

ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior



He did not say it but it would fit very well in his extremist style. Sorry if I insulted you with this word.

I think you are projecting what you think the US rightwing is all about versus what it is about these days. 1st African-American SoS? Us. 2d African-American S0S and first African-American females SoS? Us.

I have no use or care for anyone who pigeonholes anyone for good or ill based on their skin color or creed.

NO USE.

Good Lord...[8|][8|][8|]

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Enough guys i'd say.

[quote]ORIGINAL: Procrustes


Let's try to take this thread back to some reasonable topic. If people want to play with each other, please go start another thread - or return to other boards.



Anyways, the Churchill tank was pretty cool:



All the neat variations - the Crocidile flame tank:



The carpet layer:



And the AVRE - with the spigot mortar:



The pictures of them littering the Dieppe beaches always stuck with me:




I second the motion. The Churchill was a pretty neat looking tank. There was an interesting prototype armed with a 17pdr named the Black Prince which did not go into service (most probably because the war was nearly over and the Centurion was clearly a better tank.

I can't seem to get the images to work. Here is another try.







Note: Pictures taken from article on Wikipedia.

The Churchill definitely has a panache that it shares in some ways with the PzVIE. All those vertical front surfaces. It has a brute, "blunt instrument" kind of look about it that has a kind of appeal.
 
Another fave of mine is the US M3 (diesel) Stuart. You have to love a recce tank with 5 MGs.

AFV's have fixed rear firing MG's?

ORIGINAL: morvwilson

ORIGINAL: Twotribes

I LIKE the idea of the T-35, so many cannon, but reality is it just wasnt gonna work ) .

True enough! When ever I used them in Steel Panthers or Squad Leader(guess I am aging myself there) they either broke down or made excelent target practice for the other side[:D][:D]

Steel Panthers has T-35s???

I got WinSPWW2... I'm gonna go look now.

My vote goes to the JS II (I don't think the III quite made it in time -- but I could be wrong).
Heavily armoured, powerful gun, fairly reliable as heavy tanks go.
Surprised to hear no mention of the Comet.
Regards,

Rob.

I like both of your picks. JS-2s were still listed as being in service as late as 1968 (USAEUR Pamphlet 30-60-1, 1968). The South Africans still had some Comets (perhaps not in service, but in their inventory) as late as 1980 and the Burmese had some as late as 1985. (Military Balance 1980-81 and 1985-86)

The JS-3 is reported as having first gone into action in January of 1945. There is a lot of information on the net from Russian sources about it and it's successors (T-10 and T-10M), some of it not very favourable.

Some KV-1 variants had them, certainly...

ORIGINAL: EUBanana

ORIGINAL: morvwilson

ORIGINAL: Twotribes

I LIKE the idea of the T-35, so many cannon, but reality is it just wasnt gonna work ) .

True enough! When ever I used them in Steel Panthers or Squad Leader(guess I am aging myself there) they either broke down or made excelent target practice for the other side[:D][:D]

Steel Panthers has T-35s???

I got WinSPWW2... I'm gonna go look now.

I dont remember if they are in SPWW2 or not, I know they were in SPWAW at one time if not there any more.

Remember by 1939 - 1941 there were few of them and most were not functional. A few did, as I recall, fight the 41 invasion.

ORIGINAL: morvwilson

What, no one else likes the russian T-35?

I must admit I kind of fancy the T-35, and the T-28 for that matter. I know that means I have now voted for about 5 different tanks but who says you can't have more than one favourite.

Maybe we should have categories!
Light, Medium, Heavy, Multi-turreted, Special-purpose ...

ORIGINAL: Knuckles_85

Ok I added in haste my explaination in the use on concentration camp as a propoganda tool. I was unaware that the Brits actually used that term and not interment camps. My examples of insurgencies being put down still stands though.

"Concentration camp" was not a loaded term during the Boer War, and far as I know it wasn't until after the Nazi camps were revealed to the world.

IIRC they had 'protected villages' in the Vietnam War which were basically the same thing as the original concentration camps, just renamed, so as not to be associated with Nazi death camps.

ORIGINAL: Twotribes
I dont remember if they are in SPWW2 or not, I know they were in SPWAW at one time if not there any more.

Remember by 1939 - 1941 there were few of them and most were not functional. A few did, as I recall, fight the 41 invasion.

Heh, they are in WinSPWW2 it seems. How did I miss those...

I'm gonna try it out now. I bet in the game its actually effective, those multiturreted Lee and Char tanks are pretty good in Steel Panthers...

Edited to add - not multiturreted, multi-gunned. you know what I mean... far as the game is concerned all the same thing I imagine.