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RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:00 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: rjopel

The Hawaii CB-3 was commissioned. 

http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/h3/hawaii.htm

Hawaii

An American island territory in the Pacific, later the 50th State.

(CB-3: dp. 27,500; l. 808'6" ; b. 90'10" ; dr. 27'1" s. 33 k.; a. 9 12" planned; cl. Alaska)

Hawaii (CB-3) was launched 3 November 1945 by New York Shipbuilding Corp., Camden, N.J.; sponsored by Mrs. Joseph R. Farrington, wife of the delegate from the Territory of Hawaii. One of a projected class of six battle cruiser type ships, of which only two were com-pleted, Hawaii and her sisters were designed to cope with the large German "pocket battleships" and Japanese armored cruisers. Due to the reduction in defense expenditures after World War II, her construction was suspended. In September 1947 she stood 84 percent complete. For a time it was planned that Hawaii should be converted to the Navy's first guided missile ship, but she remained in the Atlantic Reserve Fleet. Her classification was changed to large command ship, CBC-1, 26 February 1952 when conversion was again contemplated; but she reverted to her original classification 9 October 1954 and was sold for scrap to Boston Metals Co., Baltimore, Md., in 1959 after being struck from the Navy List 9 June 1958.[/align]
Warspite1

Yes I know - but she was NOT a battleship - which Terje`s question should have been [&:]


RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:41 am
by micheljq
Q: What was General McAuliffe's reply when asked to surrender at Bastogne?
 
Answer : nuts!

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:22 am
by Neilster
ORIGINAL: micheljq

Q: What was General McAuliffe's reply when asked to surrender at Bastogne?

Answer : nuts!
Actually that was a mix up. He was replying to his adjutant's question about what he would like on his ice-cream. Luckily for the Allies it all turned out alright [:'(]

Cheers, Neilster

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:18 pm
by Sewerlobster
If these are WWII questions then Hawaii and Alaska were not yet states.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:03 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: SewerStarFish

If these are WWII questions then Hawaii and Alaska were not yet states.
Warspite1

Yes - but that is not what the question was limited to - it was in the "modern ship-building era" - so post WWII too.

I think we have now covered adequately the fact that Terje has got his question completely wrong and that he has badly let himself down thanks to this shoddy piece of quiz mastering. I am sure he will promise to do the decent thing and never darken the pages of this forum ever again. [:D]

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:33 pm
by composer99
Since Nielster brings up American servicemen & ice cream, my understanding is that there was a USN ship in service during WWII that did nothing else (or almost nothing else, anyway) save produce ice cream for the US servicemen in the Pacific theatre.
 
Now THAT's logistical support.
 
On another (OT for quiz but not for war food/logistics trivia) note, in the WWI novel All Quiet on the Western Front, the author depicts the faltering of the German war effort via the gradual decline in the quality of the rations the characters receive.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:07 pm
by Neilster
ORIGINAL: composer99

Since Nielster brings up American servicemen & ice cream, my understanding is that there was a USN ship in service during WWII that did nothing else (or almost nothing else, anyway) save produce ice cream for the US servicemen in the Pacific theatre.

Now THAT's logistical support.

On another (OT for quiz but not for war food/logistics trivia) note, in the WWI novel All Quiet on the Western Front, the author depicts the faltering of the German war effort via the gradual decline in the quality of the rations the characters receive.
My reading of it is that little luxuries like ice-cream makers were common on U.S. Navy vessels (and most probably many other places besides). When the British were around, Naval conferences tended to occur on their ships. They weren't "dry" you see? Glug glug. "Medicinal purposes only" etc

Cheers, Neilster

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:30 pm
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: micheljq

Q: What was General McAuliffe's reply when asked to surrender at Bastogne?

Answer : nuts!
Michel, in case that interest you for your avatar, here is the 2 Can ARM Corps from MWiF. But I believe someone else already use it (Paul Derynck). Do you want another Canadian unit ?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:47 pm
by NeBert
ORIGINAL: Kaletsch2007

The ME262 was designed as a Fighter and Hitler wanted to have a Fastbomber. So they had to redesign the plan to put mounts for bombs.
It was Galland who was able, because of his reputation, to put together at least on squadron of Fighters.
The Fighter design was finished somewhen in late 43. Could anyone imagine, what 200 of the fighters would have done to the Allied bombers in 43 ?!
Sorry, but this story is one of the great myths of WW2 which is according to modern history research NOT TRUE!
Galland, Messerschmitt and other key personnal around the german fighter "business" built this myth after war and lots of books copied and copied and copied - nobody seemed to make real research in the archives until the early 90ies.

Status of such researches is:
In 42 and 43 the development of the 262 and the engines (Jumo004) were pushed as much as possible (Gen. Milch wanted Messerschmitt to build 30 prototypes in Dec 42!) but this was simply not possible - and it didn´t happen.
Hitlers famous question weather the 262 could carry bombs was asked on Nov 26th 1943 after a demonstration of the 262 V6 in Insterburg/east prussia. Note the V6 means this was the 6th prototype!!! The V7 had its first flight on Dec 20th 1943.....

Moreover the engine development was in trouble, the Jumo was evaluated as unreliable. However the release for the serial production of the Jumo004B was given in Jan 1944, still with many "children diseases" (german phrase [:D]) but pressure was kept high to bring the 262 to the front.

On Mar 18th 1944 the V8 had its first flight - main task of this aircraft was the test of the MK 108 cannons (so the first 262 with weapons on board...).

On Mar 28th 1944 the first serial 262 was finished. Due to the lack of prototypes (some were already crashed or damaged) this aircraft was also put to the flight test of Messerschmitt.

On Apr 15th 1944 the V10 (which was the first fighter bomber) had its first flight.

My conclusion after reading 4 books about the 262 written by different authors in the 1990s or later is that there are no facts in the archives that the 262 was dramatically blocked (not more than other developments).

Regards

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:24 am
by terje439
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: SewerStarFish

If these are WWII questions then Hawaii and Alaska were not yet states.
Warspite1

Yes - but that is not what the question was limited to - it was in the "modern ship-building era" - so post WWII too.

I think we have now covered adequately the fact that Terje has got his question completely wrong and that he has badly let himself down thanks to this shoddy piece of quiz mastering. I am sure he will promise to do the decent thing and never darken the pages of this forum ever again. [:D]

Yes, I feel ashamed. I will TRY to resist the urge to post when I am really way to tired to do so effectively. However WWII saw the end of the BB building era, so I will have to give SewerStarFish right. Alaska and Hawaii were not US states during the BB build era.

But I promise to do better from now on. *sitting in the corner ashamed*

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:43 am
by terje439
Q1: What German tank model was the most common? (PzI, PzII, PzIII, PzIV, PzV, PzVI)

Q2: Who was the most successful German Uboat commander in terms of tons of sunk merchant ships?

Q3: What Norwegian warship was captured by the Germans, renamed Nymphe and rebuilt as a floating AA-battery?


RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:07 am
by jnier
ORIGINAL: rjopel

This is trickier and hopefully hard to Google. What strange method of guiding American air-launched weapons was suggested by a famous researcher towards the end of the Second World War?

Cheers, Neilster

Pigeons.  They were to have a TV guidance and the pigeons were taught to peck for food on the pictures on enemy warships.


And I didn't even Google it.

[;)]

I believe this is correct. And the famous scientist in question was the psychologist B.F. Skinner, IIRC.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:29 am
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: terje439

Q1: What German tank model was the most common? (PzI, PzII, PzIII, PzIV, PzV, PzVI)

Q2: Who was the most successful German Uboat commander in terms of tons of sunk merchant ships?

Q3: What Norwegian warship was captured by the Germans, renamed Nymphe and rebuilt as a floating AA-battery?
Did you recently discover a WW2 quizz book in your attic ?
Where does those questions come from ?

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:31 am
by terje439
ORIGINAL: Froonp
ORIGINAL: terje439

Q1: What German tank model was the most common? (PzI, PzII, PzIII, PzIV, PzV, PzVI)

Q2: Who was the most successful German Uboat commander in terms of tons of sunk merchant ships?

Q3: What Norwegian warship was captured by the Germans, renamed Nymphe and rebuilt as a floating AA-battery?
Did you recently discover a WW2 quizz book in your attic ?
Where does those questions come from ?

Boredom ^^
But to be honest, I ALWAYS read atleast one WWII book at all times. (3 now though... Yes, I admit it, I am indeed a WWII geek [:D][:D][:D])

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:01 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: Froonp
ORIGINAL: terje439

Q1: What German tank model was the most common? (PzI, PzII, PzIII, PzIV, PzV, PzVI)

Q2: Who was the most successful German Uboat commander in terms of tons of sunk merchant ships?

Q3: What Norwegian warship was captured by the Germans, renamed Nymphe and rebuilt as a floating AA-battery?
Did you recently discover a WW2 quizz book in your attic ?
Where does those questions come from ?

Boredom ^^
But to be honest, I ALWAYS read atleast one WWII book at all times. (3 now though... Yes, I admit it, I am indeed a WWII geek [:D][:D][:D])
Warspite1

That`s one of the great things about this forum - its rare in every day life working in a bank to meet similarly minded WWII geeks [;)]

P.S What are the three books you are reading at the moment - I`m reading the Sinking of the Prince of Wales and Repulse which I recommend.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:05 am
by Neilster
ORIGINAL: terje439

Q1: What German tank model was the most common? (PzI, PzII, PzIII, PzIV, PzV, PzVI)

Q2: Who was the most successful German Uboat commander in terms of tons of sunk merchant ships?

Q3: What Norwegian warship was captured by the Germans, renamed Nymphe and rebuilt as a floating AA-battery?

If by most common you mean most produced, my guess would be the Pz IV as it was produced throughout the war.

Cheers, Neilster

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:07 am
by terje439
book 1: "Lidell Hart - The other side of the hill" - interviews with German generals post WWII
book 2: "Heather Pringle - "The master Plan" - Himmler's master race
book 3: Guido Knopp - "Hitlers Krieger" - About some of Hilter's "warriors", Rommel, Keitel, Manstein, Paulus, Udet, Canaris. This book only scratches the surface, but still makes for good reading actually, trying to make a picture about the person behind the "icon".

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:08 am
by terje439
ORIGINAL: Neilster

ORIGINAL: terje439

Q1: What German tank model was the most common? (PzI, PzII, PzIII, PzIV, PzV, PzVI)

Q2: Who was the most successful German Uboat commander in terms of tons of sunk merchant ships?

Q3: What Norwegian warship was captured by the Germans, renamed Nymphe and rebuilt as a floating AA-battery?

If by most common you mean most produced, my guess would be the Pz IV as it was produced throughout the war.

Cheers, Neilster

I did indeed, PzIV would be correct.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:03 am
by paulderynck
ORIGINAL: warspite1
P.S What are the three books you are reading at the moment - I`m reading the Sinking of the Prince of Wales and Repulse which I recommend.
The book or the sinking?

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:29 am
by Norman42
ORIGINAL: paulderynck
ORIGINAL: warspite1
P.S What are the three books you are reading at the moment - I`m reading the Sinking of the Prince of Wales and Repulse which I recommend.
The book or the sinking?

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