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ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Green button....green button.. [8D]

And don't worry, "Japan" does not represent Scandinavians...at least not the sort of Scandinavians I know...[:'(]

What like . . . the rest of you are not so politically correct, but instead smelly fur-accoutred coastal raiders hell-bent on raping and pillaging your way south? [:D]

Hate to feed it, but . . . I find the complaints about a one-sentence acknowledgement on page 322 to be _way_ out of line. I wish there was a word in English for sentiments of insincerely trumped-up hyper-sensitivity; the era of political correctness and ultra-relativism seems to have promoted this temperament excessively and I'm tired of seeing it in my classrooms, let alone a game forum.

I think you know the word sir....as you so nicely PM me. We were pathetic.
Thanks.

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

What like . . . the rest of you are not so politically correct, but instead smelly fur-accourted coastal raiders hell-bent on raping and pillaging your way south? [:D]

I think you got Scandinavians mixed up with Aussies old son. [:D]

now thems be fightin words !!.. hehe

sub in sheepskin coated and pillageing west and we have Kiwi costal raiders

ORIGINAL: Jorm

now thems be fightin words !!.. hehe

sub in sheepskin coated and pillageing west and we have Kiwi costal raiders

No a Kiwi coastal raider is; a NZ Bloke sunning on Bondi Beach wearing Speedos, and scoping the Aussie Chicks. [:D]

Sheepskins in the South Pacific? Doesn't that get like real sweaty underneath? . . . Oh yeah, you probably LIKE it that way, eh?

I will try again, can some one at Matrix give a cost of this add on. surely with the release a short time off, they must have a good idea of the purchase price. Are we going to have to swear an oath of secrecy before buying the game. not to tell anyone what we paid for it. [8|]

ORIGINAL: BASB

Are we going to have to swear an oath of secrecy before buying the game. not to tell anyone what we paid for it. [8|]

YES!

Wasn't there some mention of first born sons?

ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

Wasn't there some mention of first born sons?

Daughters for me.

BASB,

All we have said officially on pricing so far is that it will be less than WITP, but not much less. Final pricing info will be available the week before release.

Regards,

- Erik

Take a look at the Land Team Design Notes section. The paragraphs for the US forces look good, but the Commonwealth forces appears to be a mistake and a repeat of the US forces section.

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

BASB,

All we have said officially on pricing so far is that it will be less than WITP, but not much less. Final pricing info will be available the week before release.

Regards,

- Erik

Whoa! Get Real. Given the hours it takes to play, price (within the range of WitP or a little more) should NOT be a big deal.

I'm as cheap as most really frugal New Englander 9th generation types ("tight as the bark on a birch tree"), but let's not quibble about price.

Given earlier posts, the standard potato chip/ beer budget (not to mention the single malt crowd) will out run the cost of AE in a few days. We want Matrix to generate some revenue and be inspired to "start" work (wink wink) on WitP II.

Did I give it away that I'm buying AE even if the naval surface combat routine is not - er - (searching for a diplomatic term) yet perfected? Well I am![:'(]

Johnny

That's an obvious reference to the notorious Wii

Are you sure I just downloaded it and it looks ok to me ??

ORIGINAL: Knavey

Take a look at the Land Team Design Notes section. The paragraphs for the US forces look good, but the Commonwealth forces appears to be a mistake and a repeat of the US forces section.

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

BASB,

All we have said officially on pricing so far is that it will be less than WITP, but not much less. Final pricing info will be available the week before release.

Regards,

- Erik

Well around $80 Australian, an expensive add on, and if you don't own the original, you have to folk out $A180,
Must be a lot of rich gamers out there!

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Are you sure I just downloaded it and it looks ok to me ??

ORIGINAL: Knavey

Take a look at the Land Team Design Notes section. The paragraphs for the US forces look good, but the Commonwealth forces appears to be a mistake and a repeat of the US forces section.

There's definitely repetition. The opening paragraphs for "US Military" and "Commonwealth Forces" are absolutely identical. To the word. A better approach would have been to treat that paragraph as "applicable to all", and use that as the lead-in to the nationality specific sections. The first sentence even suggests as much: "A lot of work was done to fairly assess unit strength and experience across all nationalities." (empasis added). One other comment. The notes refer only to the US and CW forces. Once AE is released and the Land Team has more time available, it would be nice if you could add something for Japan, USSR, & China.

My wife and a friend went out to eat at a common chain eatery tonight "Chilis." The friend picked up the tab but I wouldn't doubt that that was about $50 maybe even $60 (two margaritas $16, two salads $14, massive nachos $12, NY Strip $17, taxachusetts ~$7 = $66 plus tip $14 = $80). See, I didn't even really think about just how much that meal cost three folks, and that is by no means any "fancy" place. Had it been the wife and I going to a dinner and movie it wouldve been the same.
 
The price of one mid-rate "night out" for a middle-aged couple in New England seems pretty modest for a game that will be on my HD for probably years, and yield probably a thousand or more hours of enjoyment.
 
The price of the original and the expansion for two point three nights out on the town seems no less modest IMO.
 
Plus, that fricking margarita and steak gave me indigestion and here I am up surfing the web at 2:30 AM! How often will AE do THAT to me!? [:D]

Eighty dollars Aussie is about one hundred dollars New Zealand, and for the amount of time I spend on this game that’s cheap. These operational wargames are not mainstream games, they are specialist games catering to a limited market compared to the mainstream type. Therefore it is only to be expected that they are not cheap, but considering what I used to spend on a comparable broad game, WitP plus AE still workout cost-effective in my book.

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

Eighty dollars Aussie is about one hundred dollars New Zealand, and for the amount of time I spend on this game that’s cheap. These operational wargames are not mainstream games, they are specialist games catering to a limited market compared to the mainstream type. Therefore it is only to be expected that they are not cheap, but considering what I used to spend on a comparable broad game, WitP plus AE still workout cost-effective in my book.

Divepac88,
My guestomate may be wrong, my calculation is based on Erik's post. WITP at the moment $A97 so less than but much less than is around $A80 hopefully I'm wrong. paying more for an add than most new wargames.

Anthropoid
If you go to a decent restaurant here in Oz 150 bucks for two is reasonable fare our local bush Mex rest $30/50 per head, but its unfair to compare apples with wargames [:D]
Ron

ORIGINAL: BASB
Well around $80 Australian, an expensive add on, and if you don't own the original, you have to folk out $A180,
Must be a lot of rich gamers out there!

It's not really an add-on though. It's a separate game that requires the first one to play because we don't want customers jumping into AE without any previous experience with a "monster" wargame like this. The amount of time and effort that went into AE actually exceeds the original development of WITP by my count.

ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

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Plus, that fricking margarita and steak gave me indigestion and here I am up surfing the web at 2:30 AM! How often will AE do THAT to me!? [:D]

Let's see reasons AE will give you indigestion.

1. You lost all 8 battleships at Pearl.
2. The Enterprise and Lexington ran into the KB on the way back to Pearl from Wake.
3. Your invasion plans went horibly wrong.
4. ...