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RE: 1st assault on Manila
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:32 am
by Jorge_Stanbury
ORIGINAL: Wargmr
I will ask him to go slow, or at the very least to go slow enought to guarantee there is not auto-victory early on.
So, you are playing a game where you are asking the Japanese to not try to win?
I might have a problem with that as your opponent but if he doesnt care then it is all good ;]
I think it goes back to self restrain, I would not, for example, use my 4E bombers to flatten out his bases using overwhelming 400+ bombers in night attacks, knowing that his first night figher (a weak underperforming one) comes in mid 44. We have HR in place to eliminate that ahistorical factor. Moreover, we have HRs that reduces strategic bombing to "manpower" only, and this is, again, to model the fact that strategic bombing was not effective until they started fire bombing the cities.
But you are right, I think I will never ask that... the problem is that my HR on China was that very vague, but it is still there. I think I won't be asking anything, as my Yamato spirit and my Bullshido warrior code dictates no compromise, and no negotiations!!!
The way I see it, as long as he doesn't put his main focus on China, I am fine... and I am still making some (small) effort on trying to make sense of the mess that is Allied China
My expectations: once the SRA is conquered, I want him to put his main effort in either: India, Australia, the Pacific, but not China.
I don't like China, thus I don't put a lot of time into it. Moreover, when you read othe AARs, you see that even those more experienced, smarter, better players etc than I am, devoting a lot of effort into China, cannot under the current situation stop the inevitable "Blitz" if the Japanese player wants to push there.
Some of the issues are: lack of supplies, very bad starting position, overpowered and surprisingly mobile siege guns, lack of AT, lack of starting forts, just to mention a few. Some very creative players have counters to these strategies, but basically these counters mean devoting all the Allied effort into salvaging China... which was less than a secondary theater at most in the real war. So no fun or historical, in my opinion.
I read there was some scenario development on China that might make it more interesting (gnarly roads?) but that is talking the future, and not the current game with PresterJohn.
RE: 1st assault on Manila
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:38 am
by Jorge_Stanbury
ORIGINAL: kkoovvoo
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0
This might be stupid question - but in past wasnt it necessary to achieve 2:1 odds to reduce forts? And with 1:1 odds forts stay untouched? (unless combat eng reduced it)
Or my memory doesnt serve me well?
I think and this is also memory, if he had engineers in the attack, and he did have them! then they will reduce forts regardless of the odds
RE: 1st assault on Manila
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:11 am
by kkoovvoo
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
ORIGINAL: kkoovvoo
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0
This might be stupid question - but in past wasnt it necessary to achieve 2:1 odds to reduce forts? And with 1:1 odds forts stay untouched? (unless combat eng reduced it)
Or my memory doesnt serve me well?
I think and this is also memory, if he had engineers in the attack, and he did have them! then they will reduce forts regardless of the odds
But there was a note "Japanase enginners reducing fort level to 0" or something like that.
I played intensively in 2005-2007 and i think it has been changed - could anybody confirm?
In my PBEM as defender i relied that 1:1 wont be enought to reduce forts and i was surprised as hell.
RE: 1st assault on Manila
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:41 am
by Jorge_Stanbury
I rerun the combat replay
Message was:
No mention to engineers doing it
RE: 1st assault on Manila
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:54 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
I rerun the combat replay
Message was:
No mention to engineers doing it
Maybe it only mentions engineers if there is a Combat Engineer unit in the assault? Most larger infantry units include some combat engineers so they could still reduce forts without a CE unit.
RE: 1st assault on Manila
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:32 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
Yes, there were certainly some engineers, you can see the 16th Eng Regiment there
plus all the big units (like the 4th Div) would have some engineers in their TOE.
Q:
How bad are the overstacking penalties? I have Clark at full capacity... every Manila's withdrawing unit will go to Clark... so it can potentially go double (40,000 max: 70K to 80K depending how many units die)
Should I start moving troops from Clark to Bataan to avoid the overstack?
Should I send a Banzai attack to reduce my #s?
RE: 1st assault on Manila
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:35 pm
by Walker84
In reply to an earlier question, I have found in my games that LCU attacks can drop the forts AFTER getting 1:1 odds. This happened to me in China and allowed the Chinese to capture Ichang early on in the game. If enough combat engineers come into play they might actually drop forts prior to odds calculation (and possibly knocking your fort level down 2 levels).
I'm not clear about the stacking limit penalties but would like to know as I'm currently playing a DBB-B with SLs...over to the experts.
RE: 1st assault on Manila
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:36 pm
by witpqs
I've seen forts dropped at odds worse than 1 to 1, but I don't have a handle on the critical factor.
3rd assault on Manila
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:08 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
December 29th:
Manila is still free.. but we are getting closer to the end
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 35537 troops, 313 guns, 305 vehicles, Assault Value = 1016
Defending force 25080 troops, 199 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 584
Japanese adjusted assault: 580
Allied adjusted defense: 283
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Afterwards, fort levels were rebuilt to L1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
898 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 42 (1 destroyed, 41 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1684 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 190 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 46 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 32 (3 destroyed, 29 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
4th Division
48th Recon Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Army
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
51st PA Infantry Division
71st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regiment
41st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
4th PAAC Avn Sup
II Corps
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
I/43rd PS Inf Battalion
Cavite USN Base Force
British Raiding force found CVs
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:22 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
Dec 29th
The saga of the British raiders continues... but this time they run out of luck:
First: two one sided night battles that were won easily by the IJN
Night Time Surface Combat, near Sangi at 77,96, Range 9,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 1
DD Inazuma
DD Kamikaze
DD Okikaze
Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 2
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 1
DD Electra, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Encounter
DD Express
DD Isis
DD Jupiter, Shell hits 2
Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 82% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Kaneda, Kiyoshi crosses the 'T'
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Ikazuchi at 9,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Ikazuchi at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 2,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Jupiter at 2,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Jupiter at 2,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Isis at 2,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Ikazuchi at 2,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Encounter at 2,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Electra at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CL Danae engages DD Okikaze at 5,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 5,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Hayashio at 5,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Express at 5,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Kamikaze at 5,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 8,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Ikazuchi at 8,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 11,000 yards
CL Danae engages CL Kiso at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Jupiter at 11,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Inazuma at 11,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Express at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Electra at 11,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 11,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sangi at 76,96, Range 10,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Shell hits 2
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 1
DD Inazuma
DD Kamikaze
DD Okikaze
Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 1
CL Mauritius
DD Electra, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Encounter
DD Express, Shell hits 1
DD Isis
DD Jupiter, Shell hits 2, on fire
Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 82% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Isis at 10,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Kamikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Hayashio at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Okikaze at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Electra at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Kamikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Inazuma at 10,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Okikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Natsushio at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 9,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Isis at 9,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Isis at 9,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
CL Danae engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Electra at 10,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Inazuma at 10,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Kamikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Hayashio at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Kamikaze at 8,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 12,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Isis at 12,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 12,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Okikaze at 12,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Natsushio at 12,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 12,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Isis at 12,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 12,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Electra at 12,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Express at 12,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Electra at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 11,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Okikaze at 11,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Express at 11,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Natsushio at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 8,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Okikaze at 8,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Isis at 8,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 9,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Isis at 9,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Inazuma at 9,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Ikazuchi at 9,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
CL Danae engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Jupiter at 12,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Natsushio at 12,000 yards
Palliser, Arthur FE orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 13,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 13,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Jupiter at 13,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Natsushio at 13,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Electra at 13,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Express at 13,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Electra at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 9,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Natsushio at 9,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Inazuma at 8,000 yards
CL Danae engages DD Inazuma at 8,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Natsushio at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 9,000 yards
CL Danae engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Ikazuchi at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Encounter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 9,000 yards
CL Danae engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Express at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Encounter at 9,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
Kaneda, Kiyoshi orders Japanese TF to disengage
Task forces break off...
Then I finally found the missing Carriers! [8|]
as consolation prize, he lost 1 Zero, 2 Kates and 1 Val
Morning Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 64,97
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45
B5N2 Kate x 39
D3A1 Val x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 6 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Jupiter, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Express
CL Danae
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
13 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
26 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
End results:
- DD Jupiter and DD Electra sunk
- CL Maurutius heavily damaged
CL Mauritius, CL Danae, DDs Encounter, Express and Isis are in Balikpapan, in 2 TFs. They will run full speed to Soerabaja. I have set the Buffaloes there to 100% LRCAP over one of the TFs. as to put at least some (laughable) air cover
RE: British Raiding force found CVs
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:28 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
This is the situation on the Solomons
Poor *AKL Pulganbar paid a heavy price to get intelligence on the KB's whereabouts.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,132
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
D3A1 Val x 17
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAKL Pulganbar, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Pulganbar
Manila still holds
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:06 am
by Jorge_Stanbury
Dec 30 was a relatively quiet turn
highlights:
I got my first tanker! the little Amatsu Maru
Sub attack near Fukue-jima at 98,59
Japanese Ships
TK Amatsu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #13
Allied Ships
SS Pollack
SS Pollack launches 2 torpedoes at TK Amatsu Maru
Pollack diving deep ....
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
but I also lost a big AP:
Submarine attack near San Diego at 221,89
Japanese Ships
SS I-24
Allied Ships
AP W.A. Holbrook, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
AP W.A. Holbrook is sighted by SS I-24
SS I-24 launches 2 torpedoes at AP W.A. Holbrook
The British Raiding TF was not disturbed! which means CL Mauritius is now getting fixed in Soerabaja
And more good news: both Manila and Rabaul survived another day
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 35052 troops, 314 guns, 305 vehicles, Assault Value = 960
Defending force 23534 troops, 195 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 400
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0
Japanese adjusted assault: 625
Allied adjusted defense: 319
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 forts rebuilt to L1 after the end of the turn
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1353 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1162 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 124 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 20 (11 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Assaulting units:
9th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
4th Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
2nd Tank Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
57th PS Infantry Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
41st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
71st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
4th PAAC Avn Sup
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
II Corps
Cavite USN Base Force
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Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 3749 troops, 38 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 117
Defending force 2694 troops, 19 guns, 174 vehicles, Assault Value = 17
Japanese adjusted assault: 35
Allied adjusted defense: 35
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Assaulting units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
Defending units:
Lark Force
B Coy/NG Rifles
Rabaul Base Force
Ship losses - Dec 30th 1941
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:04 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
We have almost reached the end of the year; so this is a good time to do a tally of ship losses:
Capital ships:
No capital ship lost [:)]
I have 3 heavily damaged BBs:
Maryland safe at PH
PoW and Repulse somewhere in the Indian ocean moving towards Cape Town. They are not safe, but their chances are good
BBs West Virginia and Nevada with moderate damage, I think I will try to fully repair them at PH. It should take 4 to 5 months to do so
Cruisers:
CA Houston and CA Cornwall are serious losses, they will be missed
I am not too concerned with the loss of CL Java, CL Tromp, CL Adelaide and CL Dauntless as these are obsolete WW1 era cruisers. I have plenty of them.
CA Mauritius is at high risk, getting emergency repairs very close to the front (Soerabaja)
Many more cruisers under repair, but not under serious risk
Destroyers:
I lost Phelps to a submarine torpedo and Electra and Jupiter in last turn's raiding foray.
DD John D. Ford will be lost as soon as Manila falls. (in the next couple turns).
I have several damaged DDs, worst being Witte de With getting repaired at Sorerabaja. Good thing DDs repair quickly
Japan lost at least 8 DDs:
4 Fubukis on the battle of Mersing: DD Fubuki, DD Shinonome, DD Usugumo, DD Shirakumo
1 more Fubuki hit a mine at Mersing: DD Shirayuki???
1 Minekaze torpedoed near Balikpapan: DD Nokaze
1 Shikinami at the battle of Jesselton: DD Ushio
1 Momi at the battle of Jesselton: DD Yomogi
Submarines:
9 sunk, as direct consequence of Manila's Dec 7th raid
1 torpedoed by a Japanese submarine
Plus Argonaut was severely damaged by hitting a mine at Kwajalein
I have another 12 moderately damaged submarines, these all due to Manila's raid. Most are moving to Australia to get fully repaired, the worst damaged are in Soerabaja having emergency repairs performed
Dec 31st: The fall of Manila
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:52 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
Dec 31, 1941 was a quiet turn,
highlights:
- Manila fell after many days of heroic resistance
- Rabaul has not; althought it will come soon
- Nells raided Christmas Island (IO). Only small craft and small auxilairies sunk
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 35296 troops, 396 guns, 329 vehicles, Assault Value = 1074
Defending force 22424 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 265
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0
Japanese adjusted assault: 595
Allied adjusted defense: 217
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Manila !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1186 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
9820 casualties reported
Squads: 431 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 405 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 53 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 116 (111 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 10
Units destroyed 1
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
4th Division
65th Brigade
16th Engineer Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
14th Army
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
51st PA Infantry Division
41st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
II Corps
4th PAAC Avn Sup
Cavite USN Base Force
Morning Air attack on Christmas Island IO , at 45,104
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 4 damaged
Allied Ships
AVP Orion, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMc MMS C, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Ciska, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Endeh, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AGP Tydeman, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMc Lawoe, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AG Canopus, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AMc Digoel, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Djampea, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML P 12, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML P 9, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
Port hits 3
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
Massive explosion on AVP Orion
Massive explosion on AG Canopus
Japan is eating Manila's ice-cream

Jan 1st: Ambon invasion
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:29 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
January 1st, 1942: the new year came with the invasion of Ambon.
this is done before invading: Makassar, Kendari, Tarakan, Balikpapan and Java.
Which means he want to cut my retreat line to Darwin and/ go for North Australia early
I am just running away, as my cruisers already tasted the kind of beating those Vals/ Kates can provide

Jan 2nd: Terempa raid
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:46 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
Jan 2nd highlights:
- I sent CL Caledon from Sigapore to Terempa, to do one last raid:
Results were so-so, as I was caught later on by a cruiser cover force, and then afterwards by a submarine
Night Time Surface Combat, near Terempa at 54,83, Range 10,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Suyozai Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Akagisan Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Sinsyu Maru
xAK Kasagi Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Syozui Maru, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
Allied Ships
CL Caledon, Shell hits 1
Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 100% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages PB Suyozai Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Caledon engages PB Suyozai Maru at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 5,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Akagisan Maru at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages PB Suyozai Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages PB Suyozai Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Akagisan Maru at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 10,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...
Day Time Surface Combat, near Terempa at 54,83, Range 22,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 4
CL Kuma, Shell hits 1
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze
Allied Ships
CL Caledon, Shell hits 5
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 22,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 22,000 yards
CA Ashigara launches Long Lance Torpedoes at CL Caledon at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 15,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 11,000 yards
CL Caledon engages CA Maya at 11,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 7,000 yards
CL Caledon engages CA Maya at 7,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 9,000 yards
CL Caledon engages DD Matsukaze at 9,000 yards
Annesley, J.C. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 11,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 11,000 yards
CL Caledon engages DD Matsukaze at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 15,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 15,000 yards
CL Caledon engages DD Matsukaze at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 20,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 20,000 yards
CL Caledon engages CL Kuma at 20,000 yards
Range increases to 23,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 23,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 27,000 yards
Range increases to 30,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 30,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Sub attack near Djemadja at 53,84
Japanese Ships
SS I-154
Allied Ships
CL Caledon, Torpedo hits 1
SS I-154 launches 6 torpedoes
I-154 bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection
End Results are:
Allies: 1 heavily damaged CL
Japan: 2 small *AKs on "heavy fires"
Jan 3rd: Singapore assault and big mistake at Clark
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:28 am
by Jorge_Stanbury
January 3rd was a relatively quiet turn; main highlights are:
a) Japan shock assaulted Singapore
b) Japan's first serious attempt to bomb (port strike) Singapore
c) Horrendous mistake at Clark Field
a) Singapore's shock assault: PresterJohn decided to cross with multiple LCUs. Results were just OK, not crippling to Japan
I don't think he brought enough troops to overwhelm it.... yet. I feel confident I can hold it for many days
Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 40416 troops, 371 guns, 291 vehicles, Assault Value = 1294
Defending force 48241 troops, 501 guns, 299 vehicles, Assault Value = 918
Japanese adjusted assault: 1042
Allied adjusted defense: 1473
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)
Japanese ground losses:
2673 casualties reported
Squads: 55 destroyed, 369 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 63 disabled
Guns lost 36 (2 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
1138 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 222 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 32 disabled
Guns lost 56 (5 destroyed, 51 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Assaulting units:
55th Cavalry Regiment
12th Engineer Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
22nd Recon Regiment
21st Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
4th Ind Engineer Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
2nd Recon Regiment
4th Infantry Regiment
42nd Infantry Regiment
6th Tank Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Field Artillery Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
Defending units:
20th Australian Brigade
11th Indian Division
3rd SSVF Battalion
2nd Malay Battalion
1st Mysore Battalion
2/17 Dogra Battalion
2nd Loyal Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
1st Malay Battalion
SSVF Brigade
1st Manchester Battalion
2nd Gordons Battalion
5/14th Punjab Battalion
12th Indian Brigade
111th RAF Adv Base Force
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
109th RN Base Force
109th RAF Adv Base Force
112th RAF Adv Base Force
AHQ Far East
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
2nd ISF Base Force
Malayan Air Wing
Malaya Army
110th RAF Adv Base Force
III Indian Corps
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
Singapore Base Force
272/273rd Bty 80th AT Gun Regiment
Singapore Fortress
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
5th Field Regiment
RE: Jan 3rd: Singapore assault and big mistake at Clark
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:36 am
by Jorge_Stanbury
b) Singapore port strikes:
Multiple strikes, multiple (unchallenged) sweeps:
heavy Japanese losses, around 18 bombers lost
2 British CLs damaged
Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 48
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 11 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied Ships
CL Ceres, Bomb hits 1
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
16 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
6 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Ceres, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1
Port hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 destroyed by flak
Allied Ships
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 38
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 14 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 destroyed by flak
Port hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 4
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 7
Ki-51 Sonia x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed by flak
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
7 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1
Repair Shipyard hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1
Port hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
RE: Jan 3rd: Singapore assault and big mistake at Clark
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:39 am
by Jorge_Stanbury
c) Big mistake at Clark:
Last turn, only a small LCU reached Clark Field... I thought it would take at least a couple days for the rest of the troops to arrive
Thus, I launched a deliberate attack... big mistake [:@]
Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 22015 troops, 291 guns, 158 vehicles, Assault Value = 933
Defending force 44853 troops, 431 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 1123
Allied adjusted assault: 59
Japanese adjusted defense: 2488
Allied assault odds: 1 to 42
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
7911 casualties reported
Squads: 193 destroyed, 110 disabled
Non Combat: 89 destroyed, 118 disabled
Engineers: 20 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 56 (38 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 59 (25 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Units destroyed 2
Assaulting units:
11th PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
45th PS Infantry Regiment
803rd Aviation Engineer Battalion
1st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
24th Avn Sup
41st PA Infantry Division
1st Constabulary Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
21st PA Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
35th Avn Sup
31st Infantry Regiment
31st PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
4th PAAC Avn Sup
II Corps
11th PAAC Avn Sup
Cavite USN Base Force
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
II/Prov'nl SPM Grp
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
I Corps
24th PS FA Regiment
US Forces Far East
Asiatic Fleet
Clark Field AAF Base Force
III/Prov'nl SPM Grp
Defending units:
65th Brigade
48th Recon Regiment
16th Division
48th Engineer Regiment
4th Division
4th Tank Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Army
48th Field Artillery Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
On the bright side, Clark is now a lot less overstacked [;)]
RE: Jan 3rd: Singapore assault and big mistake at Clark
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:22 pm
by IdahoNYer
Tough break at Clark - what's the status of Bataan as fallback? Fort/Supplies?
With Singers on the bring and the PI almost under the boot, you'll likely be facing 4-5 freed up divisions by Feb. Any SIGNINT hits of where he may be going?