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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:25 am
by R35
Were these (mortars and recoilless guns) actually widespread practices?
If they are it might be a reason to have them as an infantry unit in which case it would be nice to have a new graphic for them with the mortar, sorta like the HW version of the infantry currently so that you can distinguish them from the scout motorcyclists.
But I still think the German Kradschützen and other nation`s motorcyclists (currently we have them for France and Romania too) would be better off as a recon than regular infantry.

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:17 am
by Karaganov
ORIGINAL: R35

On a different topic. I`d like to get your opinion since I was trying for some time to form my own on this subject. I guess it depends alot on the scale of the scenario (if units represent brigades and divisions or companies and battalions), but still, do you think it`s ok to have the motorcyclists in the infantry class (being able to dismount)?

in fact it is a very complex issue
armies of different countries used them in different ways
ORIGINAL: R35

I was thinking that in reality these guys were actually small reconnaissance and liaison units that were not meant to dig in and hold a city against tanks, like regular infantry do. Also, unless you know better, they would not have heavy weapons (artillery, at or aa guns) so they could dismount easily and hence there`s not really a need for a switch button.

it is more typical for the Wehrmacht
in the Red Army were motorcycle regiments, which were included in the tank corps.
These regiments were serious combat unit. These regiments consisted of light tanks, armored cars and other various parts of the gain (as gas-67 with MG or rocket launcher).
ORIGINAL: R35

Plus, their rapid movement is better reflected in the recon class where they can move more than once. Basically I think they get too much of a bonus as an infantry and that the recon class would be more suitable for them. Your thoughts?

But of course you are right in what they perform scouting function, primarily. So the recon class would be more suitable for them.


But I just significantly increased the price of hiring, and made both options

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:22 am
by Karaganov
Soviet Motorcycle Regiment (state № 010/433) consisted of:
shelf management
motorcycle battalion
antitank battalion (45-mm AT-Gun, transport GAZ-67)
a tank company
mortar company (mortars on motorcycles)
machine-gun company (MG on GAZ-67 or Willis-Jip)
an armored car company
provision

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:33 am
by Karaganov
ORIGINAL: R35

Were these (mortars and recoilless guns) actually widespread practices?

Motorcycle with mortar actively used in combat operations

And as for motorcycle with a gun, I am not sure
It Airborne Gun
It was adopted in the paratrooper

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:38 am
by Karaganov
ORIGINAL: Brazenman

ORIGINAL: Karaganov

It regards theatres
I also think that there may be many pitfalls
This is a very time-consuming work. And to be honest I do not see much point in doing it.


But I will try to figure it out at your leisure.

Please
Come up with something

I think that we will return to this issue after the released Soviet Corps

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:02 pm
by Putin
ORIGINAL: Brazenman

ORIGINAL: Putin

Where can I download these beautiful and high-quality Soviet units!?


I think that you must first decide what you need

has two choices
Link located on the front page of this topic,
You can also find link in the next topic, in the reports R-35
I think that you must first decide what you need

has two choices
Link located on the front page of this topic,
You can also find link in the next topic, in the reports R-35


And a newer version does not have all of these units?)
or until the author H.Balck's DLC unit is subjected to genocide at this forum the new version does not go?

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:47 am
by Brazenman
ORIGINAL: Karaganov
ORIGINAL: R35

Were these (mortars and recoilless guns) actually widespread practices?

Motorcycle with mortar actively used in combat operations

And as for motorcycle with a gun, I am not sure
It Airborne Gun
It was adopted in the paratrooper

These guns were used!!!
Sometimes these guns were mounted on Willis-jeeps!

Image

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:50 am
by Brazenman
R-35
Yes, right
This recoilless gun

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:53 am
by Brazenman
ORIGINAL: Putin

And a newer version does not have all of these units?)
or until the author H.Balck's DLC unit is subjected to genocide at this forum the new version does not go?


In this case, you need to wait when R-35 publishes new link. But there will not be new Soviet units. Unfortunately H.Balck devotes very little time for the Soviet units lately

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:18 pm
by Svetlanka
ORIGINAL: Karaganov

ORIGINAL: Brazenman

ORIGINAL: Karaganov

It regards theatres
I also think that there may be many pitfalls
This is a very time-consuming work. And to be honest I do not see much point in doing it.


But I will try to figure it out at your leisure.

Please
Come up with something

I think that we will return to this issue after the released Soviet Corps

and when will Soviet Corps released?

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:21 pm
by Svetlanka
ORIGINAL: Putin

And a newer version does not have all of these units?)
or until the author H.Balck's DLC unit is subjected to genocide at this forum the new version does not go?

Oh Putin
How well it is written
Genocide Dumnorix on forum!

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:25 pm
by Svetlanka
ORIGINAL: Brazenman

Unfortunately H.Balck devotes very little time for the Soviet units lately

Brazenman
Will he continue to work with new units from your list?

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:16 pm
by Brazenman
ORIGINAL: Svetlanka

ORIGINAL: Brazenman

Unfortunately H.Balck devotes very little time for the Soviet units lately

Brazenman
Will he continue to work with new units from your list?

I dont know.
I hope so, but I'm not sure.

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:28 am
by Brazenman
Guys, I have a question
Was such cloak uniform of Cossack?
Or such cloaks were all the cavalrymen of the Red Army, were not they?
Image
Image

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:50 am
by Brazenman
Karaganov
Tank battle near Dubno-Lutsk-Rovno
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Б&# ... 076;ы

Image


What do you think about this.
I see that this is a great scenario.
Grandiose tank battle during the first days of the war.
Soviet mechanized corps against the German Army Group South.
I came up with a good idea, is not it?

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:59 am
by Brazenman
This will be the best scenario for Panzer Corps
Please, let's do it
It will not be very big map. So you can do it quickly.

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:05 am
by Brazenman
Dubno - Luck - Brody. The largest tank battle in the history of wars.

video lecture
http://voenhronika.ru/publ/vtoraja_miro ... 2-1-0-3038

short description
http://d-pankratov.ru/archives/1865

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:11 am
by Brazenman
I think we can place the there more than 200 armored units

RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:11 am
by Karaganov
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:16 am
by Karaganov
Brazenman
Dubno - Luck - Brody. The largest tank battle in the history of wars.
This is a really good idea!
Thanks
But first I have to finish the second part of the map of Battle for the Brest