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However, in a time of Brexit and terrible governmental leadership regardless of which side of that issue you sit on, it might do some good for the English to win it.

Might do that I suppose, but lets be realistic here, a WC win for England isn't going to change the mess we are in at the moment.

(Apologies for quasi political post, please delete if a problem)

ORIGINAL: Encircled

However, in a time of Brexit and terrible governmental leadership regardless of which side of that issue you sit on, it might do some good for the English to win it.

Might do that I suppose, but lets be realistic here, a WC win for England isn't going to change the mess we are in at the moment.

(Apologies for quasi political post, please delete if a problem)

Hardly controversial - the world recognizes messes easily enough, it's what to do about them that gets people shouting.
But winning the WC could be a nice, if brief, diversion from the mess. Good luck with both!

Hope is England vs France final. Let loose the young Mustangs!!

France vs England?

France have beaten Argentina, Uruguay, and Belgium
England have beaten... Lucky Modric? We shall see today...

ORIGINAL: Yaab

France have beaten Argentina, Uruguay, and Belgium
England have beaten... Lucky Modric? We shall see today...

warspite1

England haven't even made the final - we are playing Croatia - so to put it another way:

Croatia have beaten Denmark (ranked 19) and Russia (ranked 65 - the lowest ranked team at the World Cup)
England have beaten Colombia (ranked 13) and Sweden (ranked 25)

And I think you are looking at it too much on 'names' and not actual quality at the time of this World Cup.

So France beat Argentina? - yes they did, but this was the Argentina that struggled to qualify for the World Cup in the first place and then scraped, by the skin of their teeth, to get out of their Group. France did well to beat Uruguay and very well to beat Belgium. As said previously, if Germany, Argentina and Portugal/Spain had performed as expected then England would have had to beat two of them. But they didn't.....

We shall see today, and based on England's record I would be surprised if they beat Croatia, but whatever the score tonight, the whole England have been lucky stuff is just so overplayed and actually not true.

Hi all,

Well... what can I say... [8D]

The first 65 minutes England was much better and they had so many almost 100% goal chances... but then after 65 minutes they simply faded away and completely different game started... the next 55 minutes Croatia was better... well deserved victory...




Leo "Apollo11"

Yup, over the 120 minutes best team won. But we should have taken those chances in the first half, but hey, these things happen.

Its, er, not coming home [;)]

Incredible Croatia does it again!!!

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

Well... what can I say... [8D]

The first 65 minutes England was much better and they had so many almost 100% goal chances... but then after 65 minutes they simply faded away and completely different game started... the next 55 minutes Croatia was better... well deserved victory...




Leo "Apollo11"

warspite1

Congratulations Leo - although I would dispute one part of that comment. We never came out for the second half. Croatia took it to us and grew in confidence and energy as England (supposedly younger and fitter [8|]) wilted and Walker and Stones in particular became walking accidents waiting to happen. Class won through and Croatia deservedly made the final. England were a creativity free zone.

Sorry but I want France in the final because of Hugo [;)]

What would Bobby Charlton (or Busby!) say?

ORIGINAL: Zorch

What would Bobby Charlton (or Busby!) say?

warspite1

Well as for Bobby Charlton, I don't know you'll have to ask him, but Sir Matt is probably too dead to talk about the game right now - and probably couldn't give a toss anyway as he was Scottish [;)]

Big shout out for Little Tripps - the best right back at the tournament [&o] - and Pickford did very well too.

Congrats to all our Croatians (quite a lot for such a small forum, eh [:)]).

That was a great team performance! And I will root for you in the finals

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Zorch

What would Bobby Charlton (or Busby!) say?

warspite1

Well as for Bobby Charlton, I don't know you'll have to ask him, but Sir Matt is probably too dead to talk about the game right now - and probably couldn't give a toss anyway as he was Scottish [;)]

I didn't know Charlton was still with us. He should have given them a pep talk at halftime.

England should have won, but they sat back after the early goal and let Croatia push forward. Shame. Grats to Croatia though; definitely rooting for them against France.

That Stones defender was just too relaxed. He let the team down.[:(]

ORIGINAL: patrickl

That Stones defender was just too relaxed. He let the team down.[:(]

warspite1

I think given the England team performance in the second half it would be unfair to single out Stones. Whilst he was slow to react for the goal, the fact was that England's tactics in the second half and beyond simply invited Croatian pressure. With only one team attacking and with no counter-attacking threat ourselves it was only a matter of time.

Hi all,

Thanks guys! [:)]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Congratulations Leo - although I would dispute one part of that comment. We never came out for the second half. Croatia took it to us and grew in confidence and energy as England (supposedly younger and fitter [8|]) wilted and Walker and Stones in particular became walking accidents waiting to happen. Class won through and Croatia deservedly made the final. England were a creativity free zone.

I really don't understand what happened to England team in last 60 minutes of the game (i.e. 2nd total half because game lasted 90+30=120 minutes)...

They played well at start and had so many chances... it could have been 0:2 or 0:3 after first 45 minutes... but then they simply faded away...

How come? They are all young and full of strength...

ORIGINAL:warspite1

I think given the England team performance in the second half it would be unfair to single out Stones. Whilst he was slow to react for the goal, the fact was that England's tactics in the second half and beyond simply invited Croatian pressure. With only one team attacking and with no counter-attacking threat ourselves it was only a matter of time.

BTW, our commentators singled out your defender Kyle Walker as weakest link...


Leo "Apollo11"

A Belgian guy walks into a French bar and orders 1 Coca Cola Light.
The bartender apologizes "Sorry, we don't have Coca Light - but you can have 1 Zero."