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Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:08 pm
by anglonorman
Hello,
I downloaded what i believe was the latest iteration of the GC from you March 18th post. Entitled GC OOB 3.6 axis Hard/ SCEN.7z. Unfortunately when I got to turn 29 in January 1942 the game ended with a Soviet Major victory. I believe the game resulted in a Major soviet victory because I did not take Moscow, Leningrad and Rostov by the end of 1941?
I did like the scenario as it felt more balanced than the one that game came with.
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:55 pm
by Teo41_ITA
anglonorman wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:08 pm
Hello,
I downloaded what i believe was the latest iteration of the GC from you March 18th post. Entitled GC OOB 3.6 axis Hard/ SCEN.7z. Unfortunately when I got to turn 29 in January 1942 the game ended with a Soviet Major victory. I believe the game resulted in a Major soviet victory because I did not take Moscow, Leningrad and Rostov by the end of 1941?
I did like the scenario as it felt more balanced than the one that game came with.
Hi anglonorman,
I guess you triggered the Axis sudden loss, as this is checked on turn 29:

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Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:53 pm
by anglonorman
For a few turns in August the German side has negative AP's. Is this supposed to simulate an event during this period?
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 7:46 pm
by Teo41_ITA
There is an event called the "Midsummer OKH crisis", it mimicks the operational problems the Germans had to face IRL between July and August 1941.
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:58 pm
by anglonorman
Thank you sir,
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 11:12 am
by anglonorman
Teo41_ITA wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:55 pm
anglonorman wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:08 pm
Hello,
I downloaded what i believe was the latest iteration of the GC from you March 18th post. Entitled GC OOB 3.6 axis Hard/ SCEN.7z. Unfortunately when I got to turn 29 in January 1942 the game ended with a Soviet Major victory. I believe the game resulted in a Major soviet victory because I did not take Moscow, Leningrad and Rostov by the end of 1941?
I did like the scenario as it felt more balanced than the one that game came with.
Hi anglonorman,
I guess you triggered the Axis sudden loss, as this is checked on turn 29:
ASL.png
**Where is this and can I uncheck it?
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 6:57 pm
by Teo41_ITA
You open the editor and go to the Victory screen. There you can delete/change the sudden loss conditions
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2025 1:04 am
by anglonorman
Thanks!
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 2:50 pm
by Rick402
Question. Im on turn 2. I've captured Riga, Minsk and lvov. I hit end turn. On turn 2 , I run recon air directives of recon and a couple other air directives. Now on to ground actions. I see that the soviets have a massive defensive line set and pskov, and on down the river line. Is this a feature of your mod, that if you capture those 3 cities, that the soviets get an event to have the defensive lines set? This is a great mod. I will add that I'm not new, but I'm not a great player , but it sure is addictive.
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 6:18 pm
by Teo41_ITA
Rick402 wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 2:50 pm
Question. Im on turn 2. I've captured Riga, Minsk and lvov. I hit end turn. On turn 2 , I run recon air directives of recon and a couple other air directives. Now on to ground actions. I see that the soviets have a massive defensive line set and pskov, and on down the river line. Is this a feature of your mod, that if you capture those 3 cities, that the soviets get an event to have the defensive lines set? This is a great mod. I will add that I'm not new, but I'm not a great player , but it sure is addictive.
No, I did not change anything to the AI. Most likely the AI "sees/senses/feels" that the bulk of your motorized units are heading towards Pskov, and it is now getting ready to defend that area. From my internal testings, on the first 2 to 3 turns, the Soviet AI does not have enough units to form a choesive frontline. If you are lucky to either spot gaps in the enmy lines or to identify the Airborne brigades, you can thrive from pocket to pocket.
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 9:47 pm
by Rick402
Teo41_ITA wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 6:18 pm
Rick402 wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 2:50 pm
Question. Im on turn 2. I've captured Riga, Minsk and lvov. I hit end turn. On turn 2 , I run recon air directives of recon and a couple other air directives. Now on to ground actions. I see that the soviets have a massive defensive line set and pskov, and on down the river line. Is this a feature of your mod, that if you capture those 3 cities, that the soviets get an event to have the defensive lines set? This is a great mod. I will add that I'm not new, but I'm not a great player , but it sure is addictive.
No, I did not change anything to the AI. Most likely the AI "sees/senses/feels" that the bulk of your motorized units are heading towards Pskov, and it is now getting ready to defend that area. From my internal testings, on the first 2 to 3 turns, the Soviet AI does not have enough units to form a choesive frontline. If you are lucky to either spot gaps in the enmy lines or to identify the Airborne brigades, you can thrive from pocket to pocket.
thank you buddy. i am enjoying this mod. ill keep your comment in mind when i move closer. do you have any other tips and tricks as the axis side? i enjoy your weekly videos on case blue.
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 5:17 am
by Rick402
Teo41_ITA wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 6:18 pm
Rick402 wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 2:50 pm
Question. Im on turn 2. I've captured Riga, Minsk and lvov. I hit end turn. On turn 2 , I run recon air directives of recon and a couple other air directives. Now on to ground actions. I see that the soviets have a massive defensive line set and pskov, and on down the river line. Is this a feature of your mod, that if you capture those 3 cities, that the soviets get an event to have the defensive lines set? This is a great mod. I will add that I'm not new, but I'm not a great player , but it sure is addictive.
No, I did not change anything to the AI. Most likely the AI "sees/senses/feels" that the bulk of your motorized units are heading towards Pskov, and it is now getting ready to defend that area. From my internal testings, on the first 2 to 3 turns, the Soviet AI does not have enough units to form a choesive frontline. If you are lucky to either spot gaps in the enmy lines or to identify the Airborne brigades, you can thrive from pocket to pocket.
question on the events for atlantic wall and balkin operation, do i have to transfer the units for said events like the rad viii and 1st and 4th mountain and the other light divisions, do i have to transfer them to okh brfore i can transfer them to their TB destinations for the events to fire? because i cant transfer them if they are attached to corp hqs. can anyone help?
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 9:17 pm
by Teo41_ITA
The VIII RAD has to be moved on T1, since it is attached to AGC and it should be far away from the frontline to directly move it to WE. Same is true for the 1st and 4th Mountain Divisions, just send them before turn 4 (or 6, I don't remember now). No need to go via the OKH.
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 10:20 pm
by Rick402
Teo41_ITA wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 9:17 pm
The VIII RAD has to be moved on T1, since it is attached to AGC and it should be far away from the frontline to directly move it to WE. Same is true for the 1st and 4th Mountain Divisions, just send them before turn 4 (or 6, I don't remember now). No need to go via the OKH.
a couple other questions. as for this being a historical oob, are the frozen corp hqs going to get their historical divisions? or do i need to do that with the units that are transfered to the map per turn? id like to go historical but if i cant ill just wing it i guess. ya id like to go historical in the game but win, hope you understand what i mean in both those questions. again thank you for all your hard work
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 11:36 pm
by Wiedrock
Rick402 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:20 pm
a couple other questions. as for this being a historical oob, are the frozen corp hqs going to get their historical divisions? or do i need to do that with the units that are transfered to the map per turn? id like to go historical but if i cant ill just wing it i guess. ya id like to go historical in the game but win, hope you understand what i mean in both those questions. again thank you for all your hard work
You are in command organizing the new units arriving yourself mostly.
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 1:09 am
by Rick402
Wiedrock wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:36 pm
Rick402 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:20 pm
a couple other questions. as for this being a historical oob, are the frozen corp hqs going to get their historical divisions? or do i need to do that with the units that are transfered to the map per turn? id like to go historical but if i cant ill just wing it i guess. ya id like to go historical in the game but win, hope you understand what i mean in both those questions. again thank you for all your hard work
You are in command organizing the new units arriving yourself mostly.
should i be letting the infantry move up before i start moving from minsk and towards pskov turn 2. because im getting a lot more combat delay then i did before. playing last week i didnt get any CD. it takes like 2 days for the infantry to catch up and we re in a time crunch before winter. seems like the AI for whatever reason is tougher
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 1:00 pm
by terry1040
This is a great project. Congratulations.
Just a quick question: Due to the massive amount of historical changes to the OOB, I asume the scenarios are best played with "Enhanced Player TB Control" disabled. Let the Historical Changes take their effect, correct?
Furthermore, as Soviet player, should I refrain from building my additional units (like MG Battalions, Mortar Battalions, 41 Anti-Tank Battalions) to not artificially overpower my Army?
Re: 1941-45 reworked OOB
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 9:34 pm
by jshan
Does the reworked OOB write over the OOB or can you choose which to use as you play?