ORIGINAL: koniu
I have seen coordination problems when we upgrade to one of oldest beta but after Michaelm back to original settings it looks normal for me.
At least i do not see 20 small waves of bombers. Usually i see one big wave fallowed by two, three smaller. Of course it can look different when big numbers will work but so far it look realistic for me.
From what i can see all coordination problems can be from using different planes, AF, weather or flying from overstocked airfields. We just cant except having supper coordination because it is impassible.
Good to hear. I would be fine to go ahead with it, but Jocke is not happy with how the first day of strikes looked, coming in those many many small fragments (one coordinated group and 15-16 other very small pieces), that were completely unlike anything we had seen in the official patch or before.
I suspect this is an issue with 4E groups in particular, and especially in large formations flying at close to max normal distances.
I just ran a few test turns. (4 turns, all nearly identical results to what are below). This is what I'm seeing.
These 4Es are in 9 groups flying 15 hexes, from a level 9 base, have two HQs with good leaders, high exp crews and good group leaders.
They arrive in 7 different groups. Not only are they fragmented, but even squadrons are split. The Allied player might not like that so much.
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 30
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 21
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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I also threw in 2Es flying only 4 hexes, and they stayed together much better. Only 3 different attacks, and they do stay as squadrons. Probably more like what GJ is seeing in his game in Burma. Still, more fragmented than in previous patches.
Morning Air attack on Cuttack , at 48,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 25
Mohawk IV x 11
Wellington Ic x 31
Wellington GR.VIII x 11
P-40K Warhawk x 34
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Wellington GR.VIII bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 250 lb GP Bomb
16 x Wellington Ic bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x Wellington Ic bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Cuttack , at 48,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Blenheim IV bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Cuttack , at 48,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 17
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb