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ORIGINAL: peskpesk

IMHO things, don't looks good in China for the Allies and maybe with US entry too. But compared to the average time when the US choices are made:
* Resource to Western Allies 1940 Jan \ Feb to 1940 Mar \ April
* Gear Up 1941 Mar \ Apr
* Oil Embargo 1941 Jul \ Aug
* War benefits bar 1941 September \ Oct
* Full War 1942 May \ June

Things are not so bad, but they could have been better...

For the rest of the situation for the Allies:
- The North Med slightly below Normal.
- North Africa slightly below Normal.
- Western Europe Normal.
- Eastern Europe undecided
- Asia except China undecided
- Pacific Ocean undecided
- Atlantic Normal
- Siberia Good


But things can look different depending on perspective.

Well, I think the Japanese situation is bad even though the war in China has made some progress. This can not, however, compensate for the loss of Manchuria to USSR. Just the production loss for Manchuria is 3 BPs per turn (at current PM). That war also cost the Japanese 4 land units, or 8 BPs, on lost (on map) land units. The production gained in China can not near enough compensate for this loss. At least in my humble opinion.

And while the Chinese are reduced in size, their army is still fairly strong.

The US production should, once again in my humble opinion, be delayed and suffer if USSR declares war on Japan.

Axis end of turn:
Part One:

Preliminary planning:
Germany - No changes needed - 27 production points - 25 BPs.
Italy - No changes needed - 11 production points - 11 BPs.
Japan - No changes needed - 14 production points - 14 BPs. Save one NEI oil in Shanghai, and one NEI oil in Fukuoka.
Vichy France - The Algerian resource is activated (going to production) - 3 production points - 7 BPs.


Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

Germany:
East Med: 1 x CP
Baltic Sea: 4 x CPs.

All 4 Vichy CPs stay at sea.

Italy:
East Med: 2 x CA (4-box)
Italian Coast: CP, BB + CA (4-box)

Japan:
Japanese Coast: 2 x CPs (CP marker needs to be split in order to send 1 CP to port - check that 2 stay)
China Sea: 9 x CP
South China Sea: 4 x CP


Return to Base:

Germany:
North Sea: FTR2 -> 48,35; 2 x BB + CA (Blucher) -> Brest; 2 x CA (Admiral Graf Spee, Admiral Hipper) -> Kiel
East Med: FTR2 (He 100) -> 75,40; NAV3 -> 74,39; FTR2 (He 112) -> Tobruk; FTR2 (Bf 109E-4) -> 67,52 (in Greece)

Vichy France: -

Italy:
Italian Coast: 2 x CA + TRS -> La Spezia
East Med: 2 X CA -> La Spezia; NAV2 -> 67,52 (in Greece)

Japan:
Japanese Coast: CP -> Canton
China Sea: CA + TRS + AMPH -> Fukuoka


Use Oil:

Germany:
All units except 2 x CA (Admiral Graf Spee, Admiral Hipper), and CP in the East Med, are reorganized for 1 oil (1.45). Use saved oil in Bratislava.

Italy:
All units are reorganized for 2 oil (2.0). Use 1 oil in Milan, and 1 in Rome.

Japan:
All units are reorganized for 1 oil (1.15). Use 1 oil in Shanghai.

Vichy France:
No reorganization


Breakdown: -


Prod plan Final:
Germany - No changes needed - 25 BPs
Italy - No changes needed - 11 BPs
Japan - No changes should be needed - 14 BPs
Vichy France - No changes should be needed - 7 BPs (oil saved in error - should be: 2 oil saved in France and 2 in Syria)

Part Two:

Scrap: -


Production:
Germany (25):
MIL
2 x INF
MECH
ARM Div
2 x FTR2
2 x Pilot

Italy (11):
GARR
FTR2
LND2
SUB (1st)
SUB (2nd)
Pilot
CA (2nd)


Japan (14):
Synth Oil
CVP1
2 x CVP0
Pilot
Warlord
Repair CA (Takao)

Vichy France (7):
Save 2 BP in Lyons, 2 BP in Vichy, 2 BP in Toulouse, and 1 BP in Marseilles.


Factory destruction:
Japan destroy the factory in Peking, and in Kwiyang.
Germany can destroy the blue factory in Nantes. Is this really correct?


Reinforcements:

Germany:
Save 1 pilot
Do not replace the BB
Synth Oil -> Berlin
ENG Div + ARM Div -> Königsberg

Italy:
LND3 (BR.20) -> Trieste
Save 1 pilot
CP -> La Spezia

Japan:
LND3 -> Sasebo

Vichy France:
CP -> Marseilles


Voluntary Resource Lending:
Same: Germany -> Italy: 9 resources, (2 oil, minimum)


Allies goes first if we win the initiative. No re-roll.

ORIGINAL: Orm
The US production should, once again in my humble opinion, be delayed and suffer if USSR declares war on Japan.

Fair point and I agree. However in this particular game I think this can be offset and more by attack on Greece by both euro-Axis powers, and extended advance in China along with Chinese cities changing hands twice (at least this is what I recall happening in China when the chinese took some cities in the rear in 1940 but I could be remembering it wrong).

I wouldn't write the game off until the end of 1943 at least. And even then give 1944 a chance, because you never know what's going to happen.

Prelim prod

China 3 BPs
CW 22 BPs, 12 oils saved
US 10 BPs, 1 oil saved (+8 saved BPs)
USSR 27 BPs 1 oil saved

Stay at sea and RTB
2x Empty TRs to Liverpool
TRS with MOT to Cape Town

Oil use
CW reorg all for 4,25 oil.
FF reorg all for free.
USSR reorg ARM HQ for 0,6 oil.
China reorg HQ for free.
US reorg all for free.

Production

China 3
MIL
save 1 BP

CW 22
2x MIL
INF
CVP1
Pilot
2x BB (1st)
TRS (1st)
4x CP
FTR2
Sub (2nd)
save 1 BP

US 18
2x CV (1st)
3x BB (1st)
sub (1st)
save 3 BPs

USSR 27
HQI
GAR
AA gun
FTR2
MECH
TERR
2x INF
save 1 BP


Reinforcements

China
MIL to Chunking
CAV div to Chengtu

CW
MIL to Glasgow
MIL to Auckland
HQI and GAR to Liverpool
GAR to Bombay
CP to Liverpool

US
CP Norfolk
CV San Diego

USSR
3-3 Vladivostok
6-1 Leningrad
6-3 Minsk
5-3 Odessa
8-6 Smolensk
TERR Mukden

ComChi
GAR to Ningsia

Remove LND3 from Krasnodar.

Resource lending
US to CW 5 oils (same)
US to FF 1 oil

Axis win initiative 8-1, Allies go first.

M/A 40 Allied 1

No DoW

CW and FF naval, China land, US combined (USSR land to move units to right places in Manchuria)


Port attack
Kalamai in Greece

Axis 3, Allied 4.
No effect.

Naval move

CW
Escorts to seas.

3x BB To North Sea.
Task force to BoB with CV.
Subs to East Med and Italian Coast.

TRS loaded with HQI to Arabian Sea.
TRS loaded with MOT to Persian Gulf.

FF
2 CAs to escorting missions.

US
3 CPs to seas.


Naval combat
CW initiates in Italian Coast.

Axis can send planes if they want to.

Next up East Med, also there Axios can send planes. Allies don't send planes to East Med.

German NAV3 joins to box 0.

Allied 1, Axis 5.

Only box 0 is chosen.

CW used 4 points to get submarine combat.

CW sub is aborted, as well is Italian CP.

I aborted Italian CP to La Spezia. Let me know if you want it to sail some where else.


Any planes to East Med?

Italian NAV to box 0.

Allied 7, Axis 2.

How do you want to play this?

Surface combat, all points to increase damage.

Sub survives and is only aborted.

CW bombs Prague again, this time it's a hit.

Rail move
USSR
Timoshenko 60 hexes west
CAV from Novosibirsk to Kirin


Land move

Chinese make 2 minor moves.

USSR
7-4 atop Timo near Omsk
2-5 near Tiflis 3 hex NW
3-3 Bandar Shapur 1 hex SW
MECH Vitebsk -> 1 hex W
6-4 near Chita 1 hex NW
3-3 near Baku -> Baku

Air rebase
USSR
3 LNDs fly west from NW Manchuria

Back to the Axis.

Mar/Apr '41
Impulse #3

No declarations of war.

Land: Germany
Combined: Japan, Italy
Naval:

No port strikes.


Naval Air:
Italy:
FTR2 (La Spezia) -> Western Mediterranean 1-box


Naval Movement:

Italy:
CP (La Spezia) -> Italian Coast

Japan:
TRS (Fukuoka) -> South China Sea 0-box, load ART from Hanoi
CP (Fukuoka) -> Bismarck Sea


Rail Movement:

Germany:
MIL (Leipzig) -> Warsaw
MIL (Nantes) -> 53,47 (Poland)
ART (Bratislava) -> 46,46 (East Prussia)

Italy:
MOT (Naples) -> Nantes


Land movement:

Italy:
HQA (82,53) -> Bardia
TERR (111,73) -> 108,74

Japan:
MIL (88,134) -> 87,135
MTN Div (Tianshui) -> 76,133

Did Italy choose naval or combined?

Sorry. And thank you for noticing. Italy selected combined and the post will be edited to reflect this.



Italy had originally planned to take a naval impulse, but Germany suggested that it might be better for Italy to take a combined impulse instead...

The last of the German forces reach the border and some adjustments are made along the front, but the weather is lousy.
Germany also moves one Bulgarian one hex into Greece and one INF to Salonica

Debark:
ART -> Canton


Air Rebase:

Japan:
LND3 (Sasebo) -> 88,135
NAV2 (Hanoi) -> Kweiyang
FTR2 (Tientsin) -> 77,134
FTR2 (92,135) -> Kweiyang

Italy:
FTR2 in Breslau -> 47,47
LND3 in Brno -> 47,45

Germany
ATR Kalamai->Naples
LND2 52,43->54,48
LND2 Kalamai->62,54
ATR Triste->51,47
No reorganization.

The rain continue

M/A 41 Allied 5

No DoW

CW, China and USSR (to move units to Manchuria) land, others pass.


Rail move

CW
AT gun to Dover
INF to Agra in India near partisan

USSR
7-4 INF from east to port Nikolayev near Odessa
3-3 from Baku to Chita


Land move

USSR
6-4 -> Chita
3-3 Vlad -> 63,159
GAR Odessa -> 1 hex NE
AA d-town 1 hex W
AT near Kiev 1 hex W

NatChi
Chunking MIL one hex SW

CW
Units in Egypt move east


Debark
CW MOT to Kuwait


Rebase

USSR
All 3 bombers fly to west.

CW FTR3 to port Said


Back to the Axis.