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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:13 am
by Flying Tiger
are you sure the early model PBY were not also amphibs??

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:54 am
by Kereguelen
ORIGINAL: Dili

IMO the attack profile of Fighter Bombers is i think much more similar to the atack profile of Sonias and Ki-30's IRL than of Level Bombers.

Specification doesn't matter for this, it is an hack. No one will put them as a fighter.

Both Ki-30's and Ki-51's are already classified as Light Bombers in the AE, no need to give them Fighter-Bomber specs.

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:30 am
by tigercub
Question at what stage do the Japs air fields/ land bases get radar in AE any light would be good or just a link is fine i am shore its been talked about.

PS. I have some good info on jap radar a bit late now.

Tiger!

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:35 pm
by Dili
Both Ki-30's and Ki-51's are already classified as Light Bombers in the AE, no need to give them Fighter-Bomber specs.

Didn't know that, can expand a bit what are the differences?

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:37 pm
by Cathartes
ORIGINAL: m10bob


Some of the Catalina flying boats had wheels, earlier ones did not..Has the game been able to make a differentiation now?(In vanilla you could not base any of them in an interior strip.)

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Happily, yes.



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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:40 pm
by Barb
Is there Night flying experience among other pilot skills? Or how are night fighter groups differenced from daylight besides the "Flying Day Operations -Change to Night" switch?

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:49 pm
by Cathartes
some endemic amphibians of the Pacific...

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:58 pm
by Cathartes
ORIGINAL: Barb

Is there Night flying experience among other pilot skills? Or how are night fighter groups differenced from daylight besides the "Flying Day Operations -Change to Night" switch?
There's a complex set of pilot skills in AE, but night experience is not distinguished.

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:08 pm
by Barb
ORIGINAL: Cathartes

some endemic amphibians of the Pacific...

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Black Cat with radar, US catalina, allied catalina (canadian, australian, new zealand, britain, dutch) ?

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:08 pm
by Cathartes
ORIGINAL: tigercub

Question at what stage do the Japs air fields/ land bases get radar in AE any light would be good or just a link is fine i am shore its been talked about.

PS. I have some good info on jap radar a bit late now.

Tiger!
I can't specifically answer your question, and I'm not an expert on Japanese radar, but I can give you the following:

1. You won't see Japanese radar in base forces when the war begins, just sound detectors.

2. I see maybe a dozen different radar types in the device pools and some are available beginning in 1942.

3. Radar upgrades for your base forces will depend on supply, HQs, and device pool availability.

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:09 pm
by Barb
ORIGINAL: Cathartes
ORIGINAL: Barb

Is there Night flying experience among other pilot skills? Or how are night fighter groups differenced from daylight besides the "Flying Day Operations -Change to Night" switch?
There's a complex set of pilot skills in AE, but night experience is not distinguished.

But I hope night planes are bit more effective in their night roles than common daylight planes at night...

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:16 pm
by Cathartes
But I hope night planes are bit more effective in their night roles than common daylight planes at night...

"Night fighters are better than other plane types at intercepting enemy airstrikes at night."

-AE Manual

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:22 pm
by Barb
Hopefully it actually works that way in game ... [:D]
Thanks.

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:02 pm
by Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: Cathartes

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If I read this correctly, Catalinas can now make torpedo attacks in the daytime. Am I right? In WITP, only Night Naval Attacks were possible.

Is this also true for Ms. Emily?

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:30 pm
by Cathartes
You read it correctly, and yes, Ms. Emily can do the same. 

Keep in mind that while your pilots' search skills may be pretty good with these patrol squadrons, their naval attack torpedo skills are poor, and they don't improve in this area unless you are training them just for naval attack.

**edit**

I will add these aircraft, if set to naval attack using torps, will need to meet certain criteria based on supply, base force/air HQ torpedo devices, and/or command HQ radius. Consequently, you won't see patrol aircraft able to automatically exert a naval attack/torpedo threat from every base they fly from.

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:04 pm
by ny59giants
So I will be able to change my PBYs to night missions and Naval Attack, set search sector, Naval Search levels around 50%, and based on naval attack skill levels and if the PBYs have radar (or the moonlight is just right), have a chance to launch successful torpedo attacks?? 

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:38 pm
by tigercub
Thanks very much for this Cathartes but i was looking a little more. I was thinking they may do it to base size after a date in 42.

Tiger!

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:35 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Cathartes

ORIGINAL: m10bob


Some of the Catalina flying boats had wheels, earlier ones did not..Has the game been able to make a differentiation now?(In vanilla you could not base any of them in an interior strip.)

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Happily, yes.



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Thank you, Cathartes!..This is all great and welcome news.

RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:48 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Flying Tiger

are you sure the early model PBY were not also amphibs??

Yes,There are several on these forums who know more about the old planes, but I doubt many of them have sat in as many.[;)]

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:36 pm
by mdiehl
I love the paint schemes on the pre-war jobs. The neutrality patrol star. The yellow wings and all that bare metal. Fate smiled on people who make plastic models when testors invented buffable metallic lacquer.