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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Please, most of the information here was definitive and dry with no personal touch. I also like when people let us know what it is like living in that situation because it makes it less of a dry statistic which can be manipulated.

The local store here has NO fresh eggs and the meat case, frozen vegetables, and other shelf spaces are sparse. We are quite a ways from the closest known case that I saw reported.

I did not go to the medicine shop across the street. You know the type, the one that advertises "beer, vino, spirits."

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Please, most of the information here was definitive and dry with no personal touch. I also like when people let us know what it is like living in that situation because it makes it less of a dry statistic which can be manipulated.

The local store here has NO fresh eggs and the meat case, frozen vegetables, and other shelf spaces are sparse. We are quite a ways from the closest known case that I saw reported.

I did not go to the medicine shop across the street. You know the type, the one that advertises "beer, vino, spirits."

OK, some local colour then. First some context: Winnipeg had NO detected COVID-19 cases until last weekend when one person with severe symptoms reported to hospital. There are now eight detected cases, all of them travelers or close contacts of travelers. The province has shut down all schools and venues holding 50 or more persons. The Prime Minister has begun closing borders. Widespread testing is not available but has been gearing up for several weeks and should be OK soon.

So I went to Costco yesterday to get some groceries. Had to go out anyway to drop off a birthday present to one of the grandchildren who adopted me.
The store was far less busy than usual - say 50% of a normal Tuesday afternoon. Parking lot was usable without the frustration of too many cars and too few spaces. On entry a lady wiped down the handlebar of my cart with a cloth, this time covering much more of the surface than last time but still not doing a full-wrap-around. My hands, which had already touched the cart handle, returned to that handle with no offer of a wipe - undoing any good that the handle wipe might have done.
There was toilet paper, not a big stack but half a pallet or so. I am told that the store restricted people to one bundle a person last week. I asked about bleach and the employee said it was sold out. No need to ask about Clorox wipes. There was plenty of food of all kinds, including fresh produce. I saw one lady rapidly going up and down aisles scanning the shelves for something and obviously not finding. I suspect she wanted disinfectant of some kind. That was the only sign of stress that I saw.
On checkout they asked me how I was (normally not done) and if I found everything I was looking for. I mentioned how small the cashier lines were and she mentioned that last week the place was jammed with frantic shoppers buying stuff for their expected quarantine. So a new Beatitude: The Nervous Nellies shall inherit the store stock!
Other than that, my biggest disappointments are that I will not be able to see my niece (a professional dancer) perform in a production at a local theatre nor take my grandsons to the movies during the shutdowns here.
Questions?

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Please, most of the information here was definitive and dry with no personal touch. I also like when people let us know what it is like living in that situation because it makes it less of a dry statistic which can be manipulated.

The local store here has NO fresh eggs and the meat case, frozen vegetables, and other shelf spaces are sparse. We are quite a ways from the closest known case that I saw reported.

I did not go to the medicine shop across the street. You know the type, the one that advertises "beer, vino, spirits."

OK, some local colour then. First some context: Winnipeg had NO detected COVID-19 cases until last weekend when one person with severe symptoms reported to hospital. There are now eight detected cases, all of them travelers or close contacts of travelers. The province has shut down all schools and venues holding 50 or more persons. The Prime Minister has begun closing borders. Widespread testing is not available but has been gearing up for several weeks and should be OK soon.

So I went to Costco yesterday to get some groceries. Had to go out anyway to drop off a birthday present to one of the grandchildren who adopted me.
The store was far less busy than usual - say 50% of a normal Tuesday afternoon. Parking lot was usable without the frustration of too many cars and too few spaces. On entry a lady wiped down the handlebar of my cart with a cloth, this time covering much more of the surface than last time but still not doing a full-wrap-around. My hands, which had already touched the cart handle, returned to that handle with no offer of a wipe - undoing any good that the handle wipe might have done.
There was toilet paper, not a big stack but half a pallet or so. I am told that the store restricted people to one bundle a person last week. I asked about bleach and the employee said it was sold out. No need to ask about Clorox wipes. There was plenty of food of all kinds, including fresh produce. I saw one lady rapidly going up and down aisles scanning the shelves for something and obviously not finding. I suspect she wanted disinfectant of some kind. That was the only sign of stress that I saw.
On checkout they asked me how I was (normally not done) and if I found everything I was looking for. I mentioned how small the cashier lines were and she mentioned that last week the place was jammed with frantic shoppers buying stuff for their expected quarantine. So a new Beatitude: The Nervous Nellies shall inherit the store stock!
Other than that, my biggest disappointments are that I will not be able to see my niece (a professional dancer) perform in a production at a local theatre nor take my grandsons to the movies during the shutdowns here.
Questions?

Just one about the niece, is the production canceled or just postponed? Maybe if they taped a rehearsal that could be seen and donations accepted.

Also be grateful for the Red River diversion around Winnipeg for the flooding. South of you, Grand Forks area and Fargo/Moorehead didn't have those the last that I hear. Can you imagine having sandbag crews with the Corona virus going around?

The reason why the Nellies are Nervous is they have no armour and the allied planes have good machine guns!

ORIGINAL: Sammy5IsAlive

Interesting brief paper from demographic sociologists at the University of Oxford.

Probably most interesting in terms of the suggestion that one of the reasons Italy is suffering so badly may be due to specific demographic and cultural factors.

The numbers of predicted deaths in their graphs are pretty frightening although I'd imagine that if you asked an epidemiologist about how they have worked them out (literally just assuming a 40% proportion of people infected over time and then applying the mortality statistics from Italy) the method is not particularly robust.

https://osf.io/fd4rh/?view_only=c2f00df ... c2ea38e295

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Kull

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

The problem with the reported death rate is what other problems do they have. There was a 21 year old Spaniard who died. He had Corona Virus 19 and leukemia. Which one killed him? If he did not have the leukemia, would he have died from the Corona Virus infection? If he did not have the Corona Virus infection, would he have died from the leukemia? That is the problem with reporting the deaths when there is another health issue.

Almost certainly it's because he was on chemo, and that wipes out your immune system. It would be interesting to know what the death rate is for people on chemo - I would expect it's pretty high.

That is what I mean about the death rate and how it is counted. If it was broken down, people might be able to understand the risks better and the medical staff might be able to treat it better. When it is father along, maybe someone will check the numbers on this.

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

In Philadelphia Suburbs of PA is the hotspot in PA with 47 infected in the neighboring (2 miles from my home) county and 14 in my county. We were the first counties to be ordered by the Governor to shut down.... I can only imagine the economic suffering of businesses in the area especially small business.

In Philadelphia, the new Chief of Police, whose last name is Outlaw[;)], just ordered the Police not to arrest anyone for a number of crimes: narcotics, theft from persons, retail theft, burglary, theft from vehicles, stolen cars, prostitution, and bench warrants. As I understand they will fill out the proper paperwork, but let the criminal go.

My daughter in law is a Heart Surgeon from Vanderbilt, and just returned from Spain 7 days ago. She is optimistic for the outcome in the US with the global level of mild case percentage increasing daily with the mortality rate decreasing as treatments become understood. I gather there were initial medical treatments that worsened the condition spiking the mortality rate.

Stay safe, and practice your flu protocol...

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Italy's numbers are updated on the Worldometers website - deaths spike to 475, up considerably over the past three days (which were steady at around 350).

ORIGINAL: Sammy5IsAlive

Interesting brief paper from demographic sociologists at the University of Oxford.

Probably most interesting in terms of the suggestion that one of the reasons Italy is suffering so badly may be due to specific demographic and cultural factors.

The numbers of predicted deaths in their graphs are pretty frightening although I'd imagine that if you asked an epidemiologist about how they have worked them out (literally just assuming a 40% proportion of people infected over time and then applying the mortality statistics from Italy) the method is not particularly robust.

https://osf.io/fd4rh/?view_only=c2f00df ... c2ea38e295

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ORIGINAL: alanschu

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Italy's numbers are updated on the Worldometers website - deaths spike to 475, up considerably over the past three days (which were steady at around 350).

Worldometers is also reporting a big uptick in new cases today as well, eclipsing the 4k mark. At best it means that the slope is still increasing and hopefully declining.

I think at worst it means that the day to day updates have some noise and we may still be at a steady rate of increase for new incidents.

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

In Philadelphia, the new Chief of Police, whose last name is Outlaw[;)], just ordered the Police not to arrest anyone for a number of crimes: narcotics, theft from persons, retail theft, burglary, theft from vehicles, stolen cars, prostitution, and bench warrants. As I understand they will fill out the proper paperwork, but let the criminal go.

ORIGINAL: obvert

With schools closing here and tests going up to 25k a day I wonder what numbers will look like in a week? I would say they're going to skyrocket just due to extra testing. But if a lot of cases are mild and in the young, maybe they'll never reach a stage where they would be asked to be tested.

Here is perhaps one of the most important developments yet to help battle this virus. A multinational team based in NY have developed a test to find out who has had Covid, and thus who may now be immune. This could have a huge impact to get health workers some protection, find out more real numbers for the disease and give some positive news once larger numbers show that mortality rates are actually, and definitively, lower than thought.

A short article:
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6153 ... really-is/

The study "pre-print" brief:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20037713v1

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: obvert

With schools closing here and tests going up to 25k a day I wonder what numbers will look like in a week? I would say they're going to skyrocket just due to extra testing. But if a lot of cases are mild and in the young, maybe they'll never reach a stage where they would be asked to be tested.

Here is perhaps one of the most important developments yet to help battle this virus. A multinational team based in NY have developed a test to find out who has had Covid, and thus who may now be immune. This could have a huge impact to get health workers some protection, find out more real numbers for the disease and give some positive news once larger numbers show that mortality rates are actually, and definitively, lower than thought.

A short article:
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6153 ... really-is/

The study "pre-print" brief:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20037713v1

That is very good news since the plasma treatment needs to find these people who have had the virus, hopefully they can and will donate plasma.

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: obvert

With schools closing here and tests going up to 25k a day I wonder what numbers will look like in a week? I would say they're going to skyrocket just due to extra testing. But if a lot of cases are mild and in the young, maybe they'll never reach a stage where they would be asked to be tested.

Here is perhaps one of the most important developments yet to help battle this virus. A multinational team based in NY have developed a test to find out who has had Covid, and thus who may now be immune. This could have a huge impact to get health workers some protection, find out more real numbers for the disease and give some positive news once larger numbers show that mortality rates are actually, and definitively, lower than thought.

A short article:
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6153 ... really-is/

The study "pre-print" brief:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20037713v1

That is very good news since the plasma treatment needs to find these people who have had the virus, hopefully they can and will donate plasma.