Bring me the head of Diego Garcia...and the Mayor of Addu Atoll too!

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Pretend I don't know how strategic points work. [:)]

Alright. The expurgated version: bomb or capture **** of strategic value. Get points.

right, I know about the capture part. Bomb what? Industry? Manpower? National Shrines?

You can gain sizeable SPs by bombing aircraft / engine factories, HI centers, oil, refineries and the like. Bombing manpower will create firestorms (if done right). These firestorms can cause indiscriminate damage to any of the aforementioned in the hex. It's the same effect (in terms of SPs) as damaging / destroying individual targets, it's just proportioned out differently.

[Richard III]

"You can gain sizeable SPs by bombing aircraft / engine factories, HI centers, oil, refineries and the like. Bombing manpower will create firestorms (if done right). These firestorms can cause indiscriminate damage to any of the aforementioned in the hex. It's the same effect (in terms of SPs) as damaging / destroying individual targets, it's just proportioned out differently."

One of the 12,586 things I didn`t know about WITPAE..[:(] I don`t pay much attention to them, do the SP points show up in the VP totals in some way ?

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: Richard III

"You can gain sizeable SPs by bombing aircraft / engine factories, HI centers, oil, refineries and the like. Bombing manpower will create firestorms (if done right). These firestorms can cause indiscriminate damage to any of the aforementioned in the hex. It's the same effect (in terms of SPs) as damaging / destroying individual targets, it's just proportioned out differently."

One of the 12,586 things I didn`t know about WITPAE..[:(] I don`t pay much attention to them, do the SP points show up in the VP totals in some way ?

yes, see post 12830....at the bottom of the screen capture ...under the score column

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Richard III

"You can gain sizeable SPs by bombing aircraft / engine factories, HI centers, oil, refineries and the like. Bombing manpower will create firestorms (if done right). These firestorms can cause indiscriminate damage to any of the aforementioned in the hex. It's the same effect (in terms of SPs) as damaging / destroying individual targets, it's just proportioned out differently."

One of the 12,586 things I didn`t know about WITPAE..[:(] I don`t pay much attention to them, do the SP points show up in the VP totals in some way ?

1SP=1VP, just as the VPs in the other categories are synonymous too. If you were to tabulate all of the categories for different VPs (air loss differential), VPs from enemy ships sunk, etc., you'd reach the grand total in the lower left.

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Richard III

"You can gain sizeable SPs by bombing aircraft / engine factories, HI centers, oil, refineries and the like. Bombing manpower will create firestorms (if done right). These firestorms can cause indiscriminate damage to any of the aforementioned in the hex. It's the same effect (in terms of SPs) as damaging / destroying individual targets, it's just proportioned out differently."

One of the 12,586 things I didn`t know about WITPAE..[:(] I don`t pay much attention to them, do the SP points show up in the VP totals in some way ?

1SP=1VP, just as the VPs in the other categories are synonymous too. If you were to tabulate all of the categories for different VPs (air loss differential), VPs from enemy ships sunk, etc., you'd reach the grand total in the lower left.

What is not understood and what this AAR might end up exploring is the question of just how effective is strategic bombing ? That is will a strategy of bypassing everything and having lots of errors made by staff flunkies made moot by establishing B29 and other 4E access to the home lands ...

My limited experience tells me that this strategy can be / is effective and that thousands of VP's over a 24 month period can be gained by turning Japan into ash ...including points by bombing ships in progress in ports and aircraft on the ground ...

One downside of this strategy is that some of the bypassed bases are large IJ points banks ...given that the game emphasizes the denominator of the equation the Allied/IJ must be 2:1 by end of the game (or 3:1 by January '44) each IJ point taken away is in effect 3 points toward that goal in '44 and 2 points in '45 as compared to just gaining Allied points .. so twice as many strat points are required ('45 AV standards) than other base points .. but I calculate now that this is not only possible but a viable strategy despite the many errors made by staff flunkies ... [8D]

I am still not sure if the historical "arc light" firebombing missions in this game are a better strategy than concentrating on research aircraft factories and then the most viable aircraft manufacturing .... My last game ended before I got to set fire to Japan ... [;)]

[Chickenboy]

Great points, Crackaces. I concur.

I think the specifics of an Allied aerial assault also depend on the nature of the resistance expected. An IJ opponent that focuses on late war fighters / night fighters in quantity is likely to have a defensive edge against unescorted Allied bombers.

However, in the Cap'n's game, I've not seen any evidence that IJ R&D has advanced beyond the historical one iota. When the Allies start getting B-29s in quantity (and basing them on Luzon), they can torch the ever living **** out of Kyushu. This will be an effective means of bringing their VPs back up to even.

The Allies (in game) are so far ahead of the historical timeline for this sort of endeavor it's not even funny. By reason of their bold movements forward, they'll be able to base sizeable fleets of long-ranged bombers for use against points North. I don't expect much resistance either. This'll give the Allies something to do with their time whilest allowing their LCUs to catch up on sleep and rest.

I'm entertaining bets that the game gets dropped before 1944 though...

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Great points, Crackaces. I concur.

I think the specifics of an Allied aerial assault also depend on the nature of the resistance expected. An IJ opponent that focuses on late war fighters / night fighters in quantity is likely to have a defensive edge against unescorted Allied bombers.

However, in the Cap'n's game, I've not seen any evidence that IJ R&D has advanced beyond the historical one iota. When the Allies start getting B-29s in quantity (and basing them on Luzon), they can torch the ever living **** out of Kyushu. This will be an effective means of bringing their VPs back up to even.

The Allies (in game) are so far ahead of the historical timeline for this sort of endeavor it's not even funny. By reason of their bold movements forward, they'll be able to base sizeable fleets of long-ranged bombers for use against points North. I don't expect much resistance either. This'll give the Allies something to do with their time whilest allowing their LCUs to catch up on sleep and rest.

I'm entertaining bets that the game gets dropped before 1944 though...

Well I hope that some strat bombing occurs so I have another data point for my game [8D]

I do think because of game mechanics that a systemic reduction of Airfields in the target area is first on the list. LRCAP is just not effective against the juggernaut of 4E's ...Then hit ports with things ... now given your assessment of the aircraft industry .. it might behoove the Allies to strike production lines rather than research since the IJ have not invested in R&D ...

I assume some recon of factories and discover which types the IJ have invested and what is the most threating to B29's are on the list ....assuming that this game will be over before Jet fighters ..

[Cap Mandrake]

The ultra secret for your eyes only orders were sent on the Admiral Lord SPrior.

USS Argonaut, with 108 tons of Parchesi sets and size 9 berets is the Andaman Sea headed for Port Blair. This should more than double the supplies there! Huzzah!

All of a sudden the annoying, inscrutable LYB's have put fresh fighters into Rangoon (50+) and 75 bombers into Pegu. These might be the feared Ida but at least some must be the even more fearsome Netties.


I had to get in the Mandrake household tax returns after the extensions. I moved some crap around...cited some passive activity loss carryovers...et voila....$800 "refund".


SG: Wow, how did we get a refund?

FAM: By writing the ****-*******, ******-******* baaahstards a $13K check in April.

SG: Oh. <this ended any discussion of a weekend at the Hotel Del Coronado with drinks on the beach>

She is completely clueless about taxes. [:)]

By ra way, the "Hotel Del" (Coronado Is in SD) has one of the coolest beaches in California

[Cap Mandrake]

Sadly the neighbor with the $10K mailbox..you know the one who is at least 70 but still knocked me on my ass playing B-ball a few years back over at PG's house when she was still married to her husband who has since left to shack up with a 23 year old and who now pays her $15K a month PLUS the mortgage on the 5000 sq ft house with a pool, a creepy pool guy that comes out 3x/week to see if he can see PG walking around the house naked and a Mercedes and an Escalade.....wait, I forgot where I was?


Oh yeah, the neighbor with the 10K mailbox whom I suspect narc'ed on me to the HOA and purposely put his mailbox on my property AND who knocked me down palying B-ball had to sell his house for less than he owed because of divorce. [:(] This is another demonstration of the Built-in Barbecue Theorem of Mandrake.

Simply stated, this posits that one should NEVER build an outdoor built-in BBQ or outdoor pizza oven or high end crap like that because it is an absolute gurantee that you will be paying alimony in 5 years. Poor bastard didn't just put in a BBQ either. He built a pool with a waterfall, a fountain out front with limestone, a driveway with antique bricks and full gown olive trees, a $10K mailbox and a FREAKIN' reflecting pond. Man, that is just kicking sand in Odin's face. A refelcting pond, really? He also spent thousands on attorney's fees arguing with the HOA trying to move his back fence 10 feet. I tried to warn him when he showed me his plans. Poor bastard thought I was joking. Evidently, he took out loans for the reflecting pond because he was upside down. No way he should have been upside down even with the market hit in 2008. Poor bastard.

Now his 25-30 year younger wife left him and he is trying to take care of a sullen teen boy and twin 10 year olds. [:(] Poor bastard. [:(]

[witpqs]

On a happier note: so PG struts around the house naked, then. How did you know that? [:D]

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
By ra way, the "Hotel Del" (Coronado Is in SD) has one of the coolest beaches in California

Lovely. We took the kids there last year when we were in SD. Twas their first time in the ocean too. Classy way to make a first spash. It was a bit painful to dish out $20 for a grilled cheese sandwich for the wee ones, but you don't get many opportunities to dine outdoors in such a fine establishment. [8D]

I appreciate the songbird and pigeon control system they have in place for the hotel. Worked very well.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Now his 25-30 year younger wife left him and he is trying to take care of a sullen teen boy and twin 10 year olds. [:(] Poor bastard. [:(]

What a crap deal. Sure, he done wrong, IIRC from your tales, but c'mon...

Makes you want to really bore in on the prenups. [:(]

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

On a happier note: so PG struts around the house naked, then. How did you know that? [:D]

Might your neighbor or his pool guy happen to have any candid photos they could share with a group of your online buddies? Cannnnnndid photos? Grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge?

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

On a happier note: so PG struts around the house naked, then. How did you know that? [:D]

The same way the Arried High Command Brain Trust knew that JJ was going to send a surface group to Laoag.....inference.


When is the last time you saw a service guy show up 3 times a week to clean the pool when he gets paid for once a week?

Oh yeah, I forgot. One time, when I was walking the dogs, PG came out to get the paper and I was forced to avert my eyes due to a severe wardrobe malfunction.

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Now his 25-30 year younger wife left him and he is trying to take care of a sullen teen boy and twin 10 year olds. [:(] Poor bastard. [:(]

What a crap deal. Sure, he done wrong, IIRC from your tales, but c'mon...

Makes you want to really bore in on the prenups. [:(]

I have completely forgiven the lad for the body check in "friendly" neighborhood B-ball....AND...for the poorly disguised mailbox placement "error".

I don't think "crap deal" completely describes the situation. It was an absolute abdication of maternal repsonsibilities by his ex.


There is some cosmic justice. It seems her new sugar daddy saw the barometer falling rapidly, called off the engagement and told her, "Here's $100,000. Get the Hell out of my life." [:D]

That's quite a bit of "earnest money". Evidently he feared a lawsuit over the broken engagement. I am able to relate this story because PG told me about it. She was fully dressed at the time.

[Cap Mandrake]

Operation Horycrappo-jima. Horycrappo-jima. Buildable to level 7 airfield. Crappy port, sure, within range of Jap bases Okinawa, sure, Formosa bases all at 100%, sure...but look at it this way...the beaches are so empty. [:)]

[Chickenboy]

Take it easy on those massaged cows up around Kobe, will ya? It's be a shame to destroy that aspect of Japanese culture with the firebombing.

[Cap Mandrake]

It's a clear hex. We would need a full regiment there and CD guns to repulse a counter-landing. We would have to move a shed-load of engineers. Too far from Batan Is. for effective LRCAP. We would need a full time SCTF after the airfield went to level one. We would need carriers to get all the engineers ashore.

Even with all the building required, I suspect we could be ready there before we could capture Naha.

[Disco Duck]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Now his 25-30 year younger wife left him and he is trying to take care of a sullen teen boy and twin 10 year olds. [:(] Poor bastard. [:(]

What a crap deal. Sure, he done wrong, IIRC from your tales, but c'mon...

Makes you want to really bore in on the prenups. [:(]

I have completely forgiven the lad for the body check in "friendly" neighborhood B-ball....AND...for the poorly disguised mailbox placement "error".

I don't think "crap deal" completely describes the situation. It was an absolute abdication of maternal repsonsibilities by his ex.


There is some cosmic justice. It seems her new sugar daddy saw the barometer falling rapidly, called off the engagement and told her, "Here's $100,000. Get the Hell out of my life." [:D]

That's quite a bit of "earnest money". Evidently he feared a lawsuit over the broken engagement. I am able to relate this story because PG told me about it. She was fully dressed at the time.

I don't get it. I am old enough to be a Sugar Daddy I just don't have the money. But if I did I wouldn't be chasing a woman who was already married.

I would be on this website.
http://sugardaddie.com[8D]

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: Disco Duck

I don't get it. I am old enough to be a Sugar Daddy I just don't have the money. But if I did I wouldn't be chasing a woman who was already married.

I would be on this website.
http://sugardaddie.com[8D]

I think she went to http://golddigger.com first.