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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:01 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Lomri
Plus they print out leaflets that say "lift with your knees". (Also why moral is low).
[:D][:D][:D]
Hory crap! That-ah rearry funny! Rift with knees. Hahahaha. Japan mens not-ah rift with knees. We use knees for knee mortar. No wonder Pearhh Harbor so easy for Japan mens.
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:05 pm
by Cap Mandrake
So HQ aviation support also reaches out to the radius? I'll be damned. There must be some kind of formula because it seems not to be 100%. Does it degrade over distance? Is it a fixed percentage?
I take it the unit need not be subordinate to the HQ, because Cebu USN base force is still attched to Asiatic Fleet.
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:43 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Why does there always have to be a rational explanation for everything? It really closes down story lines.
There is no mystery in life. Everything is an equation. [:(]
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:52 am
by Quixote
Just to add some of the mystery back in, Air Support does not have the same type of area effect that Naval Support does. Unlike Naval HQs, air support itself does not extend out over a command radius but applies only to its own hex. The command radius of an Air HQ does help when upgrading units at smaller bases, when determining the percentage of level bombers that will fly from a base, and in calculating the level of air coordination you'll see, but it does nothing at all to help support neighboring hexes in the way Naval Support does. There you go. All is right with the world again...
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:17 am
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Quixote
Just to add some of the mystery back in, Air Support does not have the same type of area effect that Naval Support does. Unlike Naval HQs, air support itself does not extend out over a command radius but applies only to its own hex. The command radius of an Air HQ does help when upgrading units at smaller bases, when determining the percentage of level bombers that will fly from a base, and in calculating the level of air coordination you'll see, but it does nothing at all to help support neighboring hexes in the way Naval Support does. There you go. All is right with the world again...
See, I actually knew all that about air HQ support which is why the notion that the air support might project out was confusing. As we can all agree that a 100 ton crane won't fit on a C-47 and therefore the main benefit for a naval HQ is cheerleading, safety posters and phone support lines why couldn't an air HQ do the same thing?
I guess I never thought of SWPAC as a naval HQ considering ground units are attached and the ONLY option for command right now is you know who. SWPAC was in Iba to aid in debarkation and help rebuild ground troops. I didn't know about the help line thingy.
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:19 am
by Cap Mandrake
How old do you have to be before the term "very promising" doesn't make much sense?
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:23 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
How old do you have to be before the term "very promising" doesn't make much sense?
Aye. Well, at least he's most qualified to lead an assault command. I think you've found your first wave commander for the pending Okinawa gig.
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:27 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
How old do you have to be before the term "very promising" doesn't make much sense?
Aye. Well, at least he's most qualified to lead an assault command. I think you've found your first wave commander for the pending Okinawa gig.
Whoa! That's a great idea! Load up SWPAC HQ on landing craft and then send an LCM with the CMOH winner and 10 of his best friends ashore alone. [:D]
I wonder why he gets so low an "inspiration" rating. He was a good public speaker, even if a bit stiff. Perhaps it's just the annoyance factor. [:)]
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:31 pm
by Cap Mandrake
OK, here is what I would call an honest, stem to stern naval HQ with a real admiral in charge and no naval support points. What do they do, human resource management? EIR reports? Congressional tours? M&M contracting?[:D]
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:36 pm
by witpqs
They were called CINC - 'sink' - because they're a sink for resources. Like fresh strawberries, comfy chairs, and the like.
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:41 pm
by Cap Mandrake
USN HQ's. Both SWPAC and SOUPAC are listed under USN. Asiatic Fleet had quite a harrowing escape from the PI in '42. Now I wonder whey we bothered. Seems like they are just using up Lucky Strikes and T-bones.
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:44 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: witpqs
They were called CINC - 'sink' - because they're a sink for resources. Like fresh strawberries, comfy chairs, and the like.
Yeah, exactly...and Lucky Strikes and T-bone steaks. They probably have nurses with perky bosoms too...some of them might even be heterosexual.
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:55 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Stole all the Air HQ from CENTPAC [:)]. Time for them to start prepping for Kagoshima or something. That's another question. When air HQ prep for a target, is there value gained when the target is outside their command radius, which is usually the case for heavy bomber raids. I understand the raid coordination benefits for raids originating from bases within their command radius but what about the target itself?
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:26 pm
by witpqs
AFAIK Air HQs prepping for a target makes no difference at all. I do it anyway.
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:06 pm
by Walloc
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
How old do you have to be before the term "very promising" doesn't make much sense?
Well, if going by Danish sports commentators, refering to "new talents" that is introduced onto the Danish national soccer team. I would say, at some point after ppl turn 87.
Hope it helps,
Rasmus
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:31 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: witpqs
AFAIK Air HQs prepping for a target makes no difference at all. I do it anyway.
Right, so the prep on an Air HQ does
ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING? [:D] Splendid!
I guess you could use it a bluff or spoof as Japan...hoping the Arries gain intel on the false prep?
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:34 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Speaking of HQ units "hogging" all the T-bones, did you know the Army of the Potomac transported 21,000 head of cattle for the Peninsular Campaign. MClellan was REARRY good at organization, he just didn't know when to attack.
I would not be surprised if the had a help line where you could ask question by telegraph as well.
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:37 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
USN HQ's. Both SWPAC and SOUPAC are listed under USN. Asiatic Fleet had quite a harrowing escape from the PI in '42. Now I wonder whey we bothered. Seems like they are just using up Lucky Strikes and T-bones.
While Menado is a swell place to stack three Naval HQs, by chance have you considered moving one of them somewhere to within...oh, I dunno...2,000 miles of your front line?
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:38 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Speaking of HQ units "hogging" all the T-bones, did you know the Army of the Potomac transported 21,000 head of cattle for the Peninsular Campaign. MClellan was REARRY good at organization, he just didn't know when to attack.
I would not be surprised if the had a help line where you could ask question by telegraph as well.
But how would a Hindi accent be transmitted by telegraph key? [&:]
RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:41 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Private O'Boyle, 69th new York Regt, 2nd Brig, 1st Div, Second Corps: <on telegraph> W H E N I S O P E N E N R O L L M E N T F O R T H E D E N T A L ............