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RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:49 am
by Orm
ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

Hi, when you rail a factory to Siberia (for instance), that factory doesn't count anymore for defence purposes at the original city? I was told it did.
You were told right. It is the printed factories that gives the die roll modifier so railing or destroying factories do not change this.

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:51 am
by Orm
It was a huge relief for me when I rolled so well that I did not get disorganiezed. I attacked with 2 HQs so if the attack failed I had only 1 ATR to reorganize my forses with. It felt like a huge gamble. But on the other hand I could not leave the armor there either. At least not with any chance of winning this.

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:04 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: Centuur

Orm, I think you did do pretty well by removing those two ARM there (I would have attacked those two also, since they were out of FTR support). The Germans did use a lot of airplanes to get a little better result, so no ground strikes next impulse on you're precious units. I think you've made the Germans think again about not taking that air action to get his whole airforce on the frontlines...
Thank you. Unfortunately for me I am running out of space. I can't afford to loose so many more cities and still win. And next turn can still bring alot of fine weather and by then Germany will have a huge air advantage.

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:30 pm
by Joseignacio
I was asking because of this post :
And finally, Stalino in danger. I didn't take the city, and that Factory might not be there when I do, but at least now I have fewer factors defending it (good since I happen to be out of O-chits -- for now ), and they are disorganized, which counters the die roll modifier for being in a city. It may take some effort, but I want that city this turn.

from RedPrince, post #121 or 122.

Thanks!

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:37 pm
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Centuur

Orm, I think you did do pretty well by removing those two ARM there (I would have attacked those two also, since they were out of FTR support). The Germans did use a lot of airplanes to get a little better result, so no ground strikes next impulse on you're precious units. I think you've made the Germans think again about not taking that air action to get his whole airforce on the frontlines...
Thank you. Unfortunately for me I am running out of space. I can't afford to loose so many more cities and still win. And next turn can still bring alot of fine weather and by then Germany will have a huge air advantage.
True, but you've gained time at the southern front and you've still got some of you're airforce around there which you can use there in this turn. In the north, no planes for the Germans, so that also gives you less to worry about. Personally, I think you are doing well.

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:48 pm
by Red Prince
Hmmm. What to do, what to do. Just wanted to check in to say that I've got the save and am thinking about it. I've got a lot on my plate today (I overextended a little), and I've managed to do very little. Expect the next installment in the next few hours, though.


RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:00 pm
by Red Prince
With the Russians continuing their retreat, I'm only making one attack . . . it's time to collect Stalino. At the moment, this is a 62:10 attack. Orm has a LND in range, so I've sent this on to him for his decisions about that and the type of attack.

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Picture taken at Land Combat Declaration of Axis impulse #7, Jul/Aug 1941 (Turn 2 of 5)

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:29 pm
by paulderynck
ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

I was asking because of this post :
And finally, Stalino in danger. I didn't take the city, and that Factory might not be there when I do, but at least now I have fewer factors defending it (good since I happen to be out of O-chits -- for now ), and they are disorganized, which counters the die roll modifier for being in a city. It may take some effort, but I want that city this turn.

from RedPrince, post #121 or 122.

Thanks!
My impression on reading it was that part of the reason to attack is to take out the factory but Red Prince recognized Orm could rail it out during his next impulse, prior to the attack.

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:40 pm
by Red Prince
And, as expected, he chose not to waste the factors on a hopeless attack. The 5:1+1 Assault went off without a hitch. I roll of 6 became a 7, and I didn't end up with any disorganized units. I was a little worried after realizing I'd committed 10 units to this attack.

Finally! I had the chance to move 3 fighters and another bomber up to the front. At last, I now have some protection for my front line troops. Two of the FTR went to the center, one moved into Rundstedt's domain in the south, and the LND moved up to support the northern front.

In the far North, I am slowly shifting a unit up to respond to the sleepy threat of the Soviet Infantry.

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Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #7, Jul/Aug 1941 (Turn 2 of 5)

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:46 pm
by Red Prince
In the Center, you can see three of the aircraft now moved up to the lines. I should be in good shape with these next turn, assuming there is any good weather.

Most of the air units I've been shifting came out of Poland, so the SS Militia, on the left, is going to have to return there, or else I might have Partisan problems.

There's only one unit in Bryansk right now. I don't expect it to stay this way, but it is a pleasant dream to think about hitting it next impulse.

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Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #7, Jul/Aug 1941 (Turn 2 of 5)

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:51 pm
by Red Prince
The lines on the South Front move steadily forward. Kharkov was tempting, having only 9 factors defending, but I chose to hit Stalino with everything I could, leaving nothing spectacular available for other attacks. That's what I get for losing the use of 2 ARM in the middle of the summer.

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Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #7, Jul/Aug 1941 (Turn 2 of 5)

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:54 pm
by Red Prince
In the Crimea, I shifted slightly. I think they call this the ameoba attack? Sort of.

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Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #7, Jul/Aug 1941 (Turn 2 of 5)

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:56 pm
by Red Prince
And we finally get to the End of Turn roll. On we go, to the USSR.

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Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #7, Jul/Aug 1941 (Turn 2 of 5)

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:18 pm
by composer99
USSR is going to need to risk a blitz or two to stop the grey tide this summer.

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:03 pm
by HansHafen
The game looks fantastic graphically. Interesting play. Can't wait to play.

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:41 am
by micheljq
ORIGINAL: composer99

USSR is going to need to risk a blitz or two to stop the grey tide this summer.

Before I found Commonwealth was the harder to play. Recently i changed my mind. USSR is the hardest when Barbarossa falls on you, your heart stop beating [&o].

If your defense is not good, you are as good as beaten. There is not much forgiveness for USSR in WiF.

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:32 pm
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: composer99

USSR is going to need to risk a blitz or two to stop the grey tide this summer.
In the south the German forces still haven't got planes available if I'm not mistaken. So if there is a opportunity for an attack, it is probably there. However, I don't see exactly if there are any weak stacks there. In the north, the situation is not that good.
I see however a couple of attacks coming. I hope Orm sees it too...

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:09 pm
by Red Prince
He did. [:D]

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:26 pm
by Orm
It is time for some desperate attacks. Maybe to desperate ones...

Here is the attack I make on the Murmansk front.

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Picture taken at Allied Land Combat Declaration of Allied impulse #8, Jul/Aug 1941 (Turn 2 of 5)

RE: A look at Barbarossa.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:28 pm
by Orm
And a couple of attacks to the north.


Edit: The attack close to Leningrad is a 11-2 attack before air support. The one near Kalinin is 43-7.
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Picture taken at Allied Land Combat Declaration of Allied impulse #8, Jul/Aug 1941 (Turn 2 of 5)