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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:21 am
by KamilS
T16 north (German)
Practically no activity.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:24 am
by KamilS
T16 centre (German)
Germans made feeble attack towards Moscow. Obviously as usual main battles were narrowly lost. Nevertheless I think Moscow won't fall.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:26 am
by KamilS
T16 centre/south (German)
He advances here too.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:29 am
by KamilS
T16 south (German)
Fate of brave defenders of Rostov is clear now.
Unfortunately Saper severed rail connecting southern regions to Stalingrad, so preparation for blizzard offensive will be little more challenging.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:31 am
by KamilS
T16 Crimea (German)
I am being pushed back here as well.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:22 am
by KamilS
T16 north (Soviet)
Reinforcements arrive in great numbers now so I can spare few poor units to guard river Volga.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:24 am
by KamilS
T16 centre (Soviet)
Minor corrections here - shifting best units so they are in probable path of German thrust towards Moscow.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:26 am
by KamilS
T16 south (Soviet)
One more turn of sunny weather left, so I think I am safe here.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:15 am
by Balou
Do you have any idea what the germans are looking for that far southeast of Rostov 2 weeks before mud ? Units will turn bright red for a couple of weeks, RR must be far away. The only apparent benefit would have been AGS to split in AGA and AGB, but no need to go beyond the "3 towns". In any case, i am curious to see what he's up to.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:20 pm
by Tarhunnas
Do you do any counterattacking? It seems there are several promising targets in the Moscow shot.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:28 pm
by KamilS
Balou
Do you have any idea what the germans are looking for that far southeast of Rostov 2 weeks before mud ? Units will turn bright red for a couple of weeks, RR must be far away. The only apparent benefit would have been AGS to split in AGA and AGB, but no need to go beyond the "3 towns". In any case, i am curious to see what he's up to.
Few turns ago I totally lost idea what my opponents wants to achieve.
Tarhunnas
Do you do any counterattacking? It seems there are several promising targets in the Moscow shot.
My army was badly battered so I didn't want to take any risk.
Time will come next turn - mud will save me from any retribution.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:11 pm
by Flaviusx
Tarhunnas is right, you are playing way too passively and have let the enemy get into your head here.
There's a totally vulnerable motorized division in a clear hex sitting next to massive and fresh units just west of Moscow, for example --it can be hit on 4 sides, for christ's sake. I would be all over that like white on rice.
Large sections of his line are being held by regiments. He needs to be punished for that. He's doing whatever he wants to do secure in the knowledge that he can get away with it. 3 rifle divisions can kick back an undug regiment in clear terrain, easy. If you've let them get dug in...that's your fault.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:11 am
by KamilS
Flaviusx
There's a totally vulnerable motorized division in a clear hex sitting next to massive and fresh units just west of Moscow, for example --it can be hit on 4 sides, for christ's sake. I would be all over that like white on rice.
He would lost around 1-2 Cv I would 3-4 times more. Not great considering the fact that he is strong near Moscow, barely do anything at all and I will assault his positions along the front next turn.
Flaviusx
Large sections of his line are being held by regiments. He needs to be punished for that. He's doing whatever he wants to do secure in the knowledge that he can get away with it. 3 rifle divisions can kick back an undug regiment in clear terrain, easy. If you've let them get dug in...that's your fault.
I do not have enough strength to attack his regiments properly, plus he has not committed his panzers so I can easily be punished for being aggressive without having any depth.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:19 am
by hfarrish
In Kamil's defense, slapping around German formations seems to get you nothing. I try to be aggressive and hit them and it usually just means every unit that attacked gets pocketed. There doesn't seem to be much if any consequence to the German player if you attack. I do it anyway because the game is boring otherwise...
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:23 am
by hfarrish
I would add particularly if you opponent is big into breakdowns...hitting broken down panzer regiments is satisfying on an emotional level but seems to be irrelevant to an overall campaign.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:25 am
by Farfarer61
Did you save over 300 ARM and the KV1 factory in Leningrad? yes ? Then you will win.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:46 am
by KamilS
Farfarer
Did you save over 300 ARM and the KV1 factory in Leningrad? yes ? Then you will win.
313 Arm and all tank factories (I moved 1 point)
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:50 am
by KamilS
T17 north (German)
I was surprised to notice that Saper forced crossing near Rybinsk Res. Surprised not by the fact that result of battle was 2,0:1, but by the fact that battle was has been fought in first place - why attack after all this turns of inactivity?
Why attack in area were he will not have supply?
btw, Leningrad has finally fallen.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:54 am
by KamilS
T17 centre (German)
Minor thrusts towards Moscow from west and south - I don't have to add that attacks across river were lost narrowly (2,3 and 2,1).
To be honest I hope mz opponent will try to continues his offensive in November.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:56 am
by KamilS
T17 south (German)
Several spoiling attacks and weird penetration towards lake Manych
