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RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:45 am
by LoBaron
ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Why cant we just be proud about Mozart without nitpicking who "owns" him ?
The only thing I could be proud of is to play some of his masterpieces in an equally masterfull way (which I can't). But the fact that he's German isn't my achievement.
Dont twist my words hun [:-]

All this noise about Mozart, noone is talking about poor lonesome Vivaldi.

PFFFFFFF!

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:46 am
by Historiker
ORIGINAL: LoBaron

ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

ORIGINAL: Historiker



The only thing I could be proud of is to play some of his masterpieces in an equally masterfull way (which I can't). But the fact that he's German isn't my achievement.
Dont twist my words hun [:-]

All this noise about Mozart, noone is talking about poor lonesome Vivaldi.

PFFFFFFF!
Vivaldi is awesome. As well as Chopin or my favorite: Verdi!

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:47 am
by Grfin Zeppelin
ORIGINAL: Historiker
ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

ORIGINAL: Historiker



The only thing I could be proud of is to play some of his masterpieces in an equally masterfull way (which I can't). But the fact that he's German isn't my achievement.
Dont twist my words hun [:-]
What do you want, bloody Kraut?

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RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:50 am
by LoBaron
ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin



Dont twist my words hun [:-]

All this noise about Mozart, noone is talking about poor lonesome Vivaldi.

PFFFFFFF!
Vivaldi is awesome. As well as Chopin or my favorite: Verdi!

Ahhh, Verdi, creator of probably one of the most famous melodies ever, the dies irae. [&o]

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:54 am
by Historiker
ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

ORIGINAL: Historiker
ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin



Dont twist my words hun [:-]
What do you want, bloody Kraut?

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I love your humor hun-hon! [:D]

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:56 am
by Historiker
@LoBaron

Listen to this!

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:07 pm
by LoBaron
Sitting @ work in my office, and getting strange looks from colleagues passing by, because the Berliner Symphoniker are blasting
from my room... [8D]

Perfect way to start a weekend.

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:31 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Why cant we just be proud about Mozart without nitpicking who "owns" him ?
There's even a theory now that Mozart was scuttled. [:D]

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:20 am
by a7v
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Why cant we just be proud about Mozart without nitpicking who "owns" him ?
There's even a theory now that Mozart was scuttled. [:D]

I don´t know about this Mozart, but Bismarck definitly was scuttled...

by his captain Wilhelm II[:D]


Sincerely
Rainer

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:26 am
by a7v
ORIGINAL: Historiker

Does that make a difference?

"It will always be one of the great mysteries how the Austrians managed to achieve that Hitler is seen as a German and Mozart as an Austrian"

I know this quote with Hitler and Beethoven who, coming from Bonn, was a "real" German. Honestly I personally never would consider Mozart to be a German[;)]

Best regards

Rainer

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:00 am
by LoBaron
ORIGINAL: A7V_U

ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Why cant we just be proud about Mozart without nitpicking who "owns" him ?
There's even a theory now that Mozart was scuttled. [:D]

I don´t know about this Mozart, but Bismarck definitly was scuttled...

by his captain Wilhelm II[:D]


Sincerely
Rainer



This is why I love this forum...

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:15 pm
by Dili

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:06 pm
by decaro
ORIGINAL: Historiker

Hi guys. I am working on a new marketing project, that will play with US stereotypes about Germans ...

According to a WW II US documentary, a "love" of regimentation, following orders to the letter, Wagner's large women with horned hats, and then there's John Banner aka "Sgt. Shultz," the Teutonic anti-hero.

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:25 pm
by Satansbraten
@Historiker: "Bin zwar Deutscher, gebe aber mal trotzdem meinen Senf dazu." ...

Found this topic quite interesting and besides those stereotypes already mentioned, I found another rather funny/ironic clip on Youtube.

Tom Hanks talks on German Autobahn
One stereotype after another, containing many 'errors' (false assumptions). Could be seen as the modern version of stereotypes on Germany/Germans (besides those resulting from history).

There are also some other interesting clips on other topics already mentioned:
'Have no humor' stereotype -> I learned that Michael Mittermayer made a trip to the U.S. and Canada, which is also quite interesting (search Mittermayer and Montreal/New York on Youtube).

The Nazi topic also spawned a relative popular internet meme, one incarnation also posted here by someone, the so-called Hitler-Rant or sometimes Hitler/Fegelein-Rant by using various scenes from the movie 'Downfall'. Literally hundreds of them can be found on Youtube.

In my opinion (or my perception) the Youtube clip posted earlier, where students talked about their perception of Germans/Germany before and after they took a class in German language gives a good impression how younger people may see Germans without further information. I even think this can generalized for any country-to-country and peoples-to-peoples relation, on average you will always hear those topics first which where/are recognized most.
From a statistics viewpoint, asking about stereotypes about Germans in a wargame forum may not give a valid sample......ok, this was a teaser, no guys and gals, you are not warmongers...just translate my forum nickname ;)

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:38 pm
by SqzMyLemon
ORIGINAL: Historiker

Back to topic:
What do you think a 5 to 10 second video intro should include to play with the stereotypes?
Right now I think about:
- Filling an enormous glass of beer
- typical German sausages
- something that graphically shows the german wish for perfection
- something mentioning the german technology

How about a man sitting in a Volkswagen, eating schnitzel and looking at a Tag Heuer watch, while waiting for his wife to bring him beer from the Liquor Store he's parked out front of?

Ack, I took some German in university and still spelled schnitzel wrong.

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:41 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon
ORIGINAL: Historiker

Back to topic:
What do you think a 5 to 10 second video intro should include to play with the stereotypes?
Right now I think about:
- Filling an enormous glass of beer
- typical German sausages
- something that graphically shows the german wish for perfection
- something mentioning the german technology

How about a man sitting in a Volkswagen, eating snitzel and looking at a Tag Heuer watch, while waiting for his wife to bring him beer from the Liquor Store he's parked out front of?

And the Volkswagen is wearing black leather boots.

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:27 pm
by Chickenboy
Yes! And he could be humming one of Beethoven's symphonies whilest straightening out his liederhosen* with the other hand (the one without the schnitzel)!

*If this is too stereotypical, we could substitute for one of those funny bavarian alpine hats with a feather in it.

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:42 am
by Omat
Hello

This is an old MTV Europe Commercial about an spezial coming out:

Mom, Dad.....I am german.

And here is a "report" what you have to do as a british if you want marry a german in germany..a firsthand account

How to get married in Germany


Omat

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:05 pm
by Canoerebel
Remember the rousing version of "Panzerlied" in Battle of the Bulge?  The link is an example of what I used to hear until I did a bit of self-study on the German language (IE, this is what German can sometimes sound like to an uneducated American's ears):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29WOoW_oIjg

RE: OT: Stereotypes about Germans in the US

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:48 pm
by Historiker
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Remember the rousing version of "Panzerlied" in Battle of the Bulge?  This is the way I used to hear it until I did a bit of self-study on the German language (IE, this is was German can sometimes sound like to an uneducated American's ears):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29WOoW_oIjg

what a crap [:D][:D]