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RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:42 pm
by obvert
Banzai!
Glad you got this started! Can't wait to see it proceed.
As you have a limited number of good fighters until your factories get rolling, make sure your replacements are set for only the groups you want to get new fighters. I also use one one of the big Nate groups near Malaya and turn it into a training squad, using the 40 pilots from it to fill out the rest of the IJAAF fighter groups.
It'll be strange for you to hear all of the Banzai! yells tomorrow and remember that they are YOUR troops taking bases. [;)]
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:16 pm
by GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: obvert
Banzai!
Glad you got this started! Can't wait to see it proceed.
As you have a limited number of good fighters until your factories get rolling, make sure your replacements are set for only the groups you want to get new fighters. I also use one one of the big Nate groups near Malaya and turn it into a training squad, using the 40 pilots from it to fill out the rest of the IJAAF fighter groups.
It'll be strange for you to hear all of the Banzai! yells tomorrow and remember that they are YOUR troops taking bases. [;)]
ehheheeheh [:D]. But i do love playing with the evil Empire....i think i've always had a japanese heart deep inside my chest...and now it is pumping fast!
Great idea with those Nates...also because with our HR, there won't be much space in my front line bases for all those nates (50 planes max for AF lvl)... so i better move them back anyway!
Now i'll follow the Micheal's strategy.... moving down to Singora the Kaga's Vals, and replace them with 20 zeros coming from Saigon...Kaga will act as a CAP platform during the advance towards Mersing.... today the RAF lost some 20 planes in pieacemail attacks against my Kongos at Kohta Baru but i'm sure that, as soon as i get closer to Mersing, the AVG will show up along with the pesky torpedo bi-planes...we'll have to be very carefull and very fast!
I'll try a couple of tricks that are frulling(sp!?) in my mind....
These first turns will be slow however...Bradd just told me he's gonna be out of town till Sunday....plenty of time to study the economy and the following phases...[:)]
Thanks Obvert!!!
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:28 pm
by crsutton
You sunk the Phoenix-much more valuable than a old American BB.
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:33 pm
by GreyJoy
Yup, true, but those battlewagons will be usefull for the allies when the time of re-conquest arrives.... untill 1943/44 they are useless...however it feels good to smash them[:D].
Now let's hope to catch the Boise.... i sniff here near Legaspi....i think Q-Ball tried to intercept what could have been a usual Legaspi invasion convoy coming from the south.... Now for here i'm setting up a chain of DDs in order to try to get here...let's see if we are lucky.
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:26 pm
by ny59giants
I sent Boise to patrol between Tokyo and Truk vs Divepac. She sank the whole convoy by her self when it came by. [:D]
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:12 pm
by GreyJoy
Scary!
However i have 3 CAs+5 DDs patrolling those routes escorting my convoys. The Kb is moving towards Wake and 44 BBs + 1 CVE and 1 CVL are moving from Japan towards Bab...so if Boise choses that route she's gonna be encircled by mighty forces!
Now i have to keep on advancing, being very carefull with possible mistakes...
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:21 pm
by Canoerebel
44 BBs, eh? I knew Japan had some wildly improbable capabilities in Scenario Two, but I hadn't dreamed of something of this magnitude. Are you sure this isn't one of John III's mods? You know, "Resilient Admiral: The 17th Circle Nuanced IJN Fleet Upgrades?
P.S. To my fellow Forumites. Please help me contain GJ's ego by refraining from posting in this AAR. This will also help me keep ahead of him. Thank you.
RE: Let's start!
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:44 pm
by Cap Mandrake
No BB's sunk at PH? If I were you I would jump up and exclaim , "I can't believe these ******* die rolls! You are SO lucky!"...and then scatter the board and the 7,600 counters all over the basement.
RE: Let's start!
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:54 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
No BB's sunk at PH? If I were you I would jump up and exclaim , "I can't believe these ******* die rolls! You are SO lucky!"...and then scatter the board and the 7,600 counters all over the basement.
Dood....
Arizona sunk for sure, probably 1-2 others too. It's in the combat report above (see post 140).
[sotto voce]
Pfft...Physicians....[8|] [/sotto voce]
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:54 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
P.S. To my fellow Forumites. Please help me contain GJ's ego by refraining from posting in this AAR. This will also help me keep ahead of him. Thank you.
You got it, partner.
ETA: D'oh!
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:59 pm
by JocMeister
I may be remembering this wrong but I think someone wrote in an AAR somewhere that doing a second day strike at PH in DBB is a very, VERY bad idea? If I´m right you might want to consider skipping the nowadays mandatory second (or third) strike that everyone does.
In case you are considering it! [:)]
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:34 pm
by GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
44 BBs, eh? I knew Japan had some wildly improbable capabilities in Scenario Two, but I hadn't dreamed of something of this magnitude. Are you sure this isn't one of John III's mods? You know, "Resilient Admiral: The 17th Circle Nuanced IJN Fleet Upgrades?
P.S. To my fellow Forumites. Please help me contain GJ's ego by refraining from posting in this AAR. This will also help me keep ahead of him. Thank you.
ahahahah[:D]
Clearly a typo.... 4 BBs....
You're still very far ahead my friend...but it's a long looooong way....and remember: the one who's frightened has already lost[8D]
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:35 pm
by GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
I may be remembering this wrong but I think someone wrote in an AAR somewhere that doing a second day strike at PH in DBB is a very, VERY bad idea? If I´m right you might want to consider skipping the nowadays mandatory second (or third) strike that everyone does.
In case you are considering it! [:)]
I impose myself a couple of personal HRs: no second day strike at PH and no crazy R&D...
Thanks anyway mate[:)]
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:27 pm
by JohnDillworth
Arizona sunk for sure, probably 1-2 others too. It's in the combat report above (see post 140).
do the BB's carry float planes? If so you can just check thee aircraft losses to see how many float planes were lost. Kinda of a cheat
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:26 pm
by GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
Arizona sunk for sure, probably 1-2 others too. It's in the combat report above (see post 140).
do the BB's carry float planes? If so you can just check thee aircraft losses to see how many float planes were lost. Kinda of a cheat
Destroyed 4 Seagulls...so i bet it's the Arizona's and CL's ones....
Ok, turn sent back to Brad....the 2nd turn was even more difficult and tiresome than the first...God!
Let's hope for the best. i will try to interdict the flow of TFs from Manila, using both DDs, Subs and planes.
Will be very aggressive in my advance. Zeros have already been based at Vigan while a base force will be transported by planes... same at Pantani, where the Kaga's Vals have been grounded.
Yamada Groups have been transfered aboard Kaga that now will move SouthWest towards Singa, screened by a Cruiser force. The Kongos are left at Kota Barhu for the moment, covering the landings.
More Oscars have been moved from Bankok to Singora, while some 50 nates have been put back to Indochina (couldn't have more planes in Singora and Pattani because of our HR).
Moving an Air HQ from indochina to Singawang (as soon as it is conquered).
3 SNLF units are loading for Palemang at Samah.
Converted 4 Aden xAKs to AKEs and several xAKLs into PBs (those with 3 ASW rating).
60k supplies are being loaded at Tokyo, while the 33rd Division is packing for being loaded on transports at Sasebo.
HURRA!
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:05 pm
by JohnDillworth
Destroyed 4 Seagulls...so i bet it's the Arizona's and CL's ones....
Check back in a couple of turns. Ships that are on fire can't dock for repairs so sometimes they burn long enough for the system damage to kill them
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:36 am
by Dan Nichols
Just to let GJ know, BBs carry Kingfishers, CAs/CLs carry Seagulls.
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:49 am
by GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols
Just to let GJ know, BBs carry Kingfishers, CAs/CLs carry Seagulls.
mmm...you're right Dan! So probably not even the Arizona went under....possibly 2 Cruisers....which isn't that good....but i think the PH run wasn't that bad. All those damaged BBs will take years to refit...and that's a good enough result for the moment.
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:01 am
by GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
Destroyed 4 Seagulls...so i bet it's the Arizona's and CL's ones....
Check back in a couple of turns. Ships that are on fire can't dock for repairs so sometimes they burn long enough for the system damage to kill them
Yes, absolutely, i'll keep an eye on the ships sunk list
BTW, it's time to start to decide what to really do with my R&D.
The realistc R&D, if i understood correctly, means i have to be much more carefull with my planning and action.
I still like the idea of concentrating on just few mid-term japanese planes and leave the rest out of the research program.
Having very few mass-production factories that can actually produce planes, i like the idea of let some R&D factories convert to production once they reach their R&D objective.... so to say, for example, the factories that are R&Ding the Tojo could be let transformed into mass producing Tojos instead of changing them to another R&D a/c. Same could be said for the Helens.
Do you think it's a good idea?
My will know would be to change all the R&D factories that are researching planes i don't like (the Tony, the KI-100, the Lorna, the Jack, etc etc) to planes that i want (N1K1, KI-84, KI-83, KI-44, Jill, etc)....
RE: The time for compromise has now passed
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:50 am
by ny59giants
Tojo IIa
You have the one R&D @ Maebashi and Nick Ib @ Kobe. Convert the Nick Ib to Tojo IIa and expand both factories to size 30. Have the settings next to them say No-Yes-No.
These three factories - Pete @ Nagasaki; Nate @ Harbin; and Thalia @ Gifu will be converted to Tojo IIa production when able. Expand each to size 60.
The two Tojo R&D will be used to get the IIc models in earlier (skip the 'b' model). However, you have to go through the 'b' model for your R&D efforts to keep the factories repaired, so I would click over to the 'b' model for a day and then to the 'c' model afterwards so they don't disable some of the factories. All of this is months away.