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The Winter Counteroffensive Planning

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:25 pm
by topeverest
Priority 1 - Moscow
Priority 2 - linear attacks wherever enemy is exposed
Priority 3 - maintain reserve to launch secondary attack, potentially to push towards Leningrad.

I really haven't thought forward of that I am open to ideas, as I think I will have ability to do more than that.

End of November 1941 - The Winter Offensive Plan

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:58 pm
by topeverest
MOSCOW ATTACK.

here is the plan. Forecast is for Blizzard, so here we go to get back Moscow...

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RE: End of November 1941 - The Winter Offensive Plan

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:08 am
by GabrielBora
Your atack forces are either understrenght or low on morarale , posibly both .

Even with the 41b TOE , a soviet division around national morale packs 3,2 CV . 3,1 for mountain divisions.


RE: End of November 1941 - The Winter Offensive Plan

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:09 pm
by topeverest
That pic was taken in November - I got the bump in turn 25 Dec 4 1941
ORIGINAL: GabrielBora

Your atack forces are either understrenght or low on morarale , posibly both .

Even with the 41b TOE , a soviet division around national morale packs 3,2 CV . 3,1 for mountain divisions.


Turn 25 - COUNTERATTACK

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:17 pm
by topeverest
Blizzard arrives

DRIVE THOSE AXIS BASTARDS BACK!

Plan executed as per above picture.
Moscow attack grinds forward for a hex gain.
beat up on the axis minors around Stalino
launched secondary attack towards Kalinin


Figured out the hard way that the Una river at Kaluga cannot be forced by most units. Bummer - really should have known that...

Kalinin Area

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:29 pm
by topeverest
7 hexes taken in a sporadic secondary front. Expect more progress over time.

Rail troops will be attacking south to close the Moscow pincer if he doesn't withdrawal.

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Main MOSCOW ATTACK ZONE

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:42 pm
by topeverest
Reds fared well here. I planned out the first turns attack and all were successful. More troops are being railed in to keep up pressure.

Enemy deploying fixed fortifications but has no meaningful reserves, so I still expect to get Moscow back in January

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SOuthern Secondar attacks

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:53 pm
by topeverest
13 hexes attacked and taken in opportunistic attacks meant to tie down enemy from transferring troops to Moscow

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final thoughts

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:57 pm
by topeverest
I am not convinced of my pestering tactics to the north and south, but it is what I did. I still have 50 units to bring forward, and as you can see, I am not so good at keeping army frontiers. I clean them up only to have to do it again a few turns later.

As far as admin points I have 500 and I have yet to build a cavalry corps.

have set my HQ support to 9 and think it is the wrong setting driving minor overages on army points so probably will reset to 8

As far as the next several turns, my goals are to continue the compression around Moscow and bring up more troops

RE: final thoughts

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:23 pm
by M60A3TTS
You should already have at least 15 cavalry corps with sapper attachments. You aren't gaining anything through delay based on what is shown here.

As far as HQ support levels go, all that should be over and done with, HQs locked, by the end of Summer '41. Not sure what your intent is here.

RE: final thoughts

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:58 pm
by topeverest
Thanks for offering advice. I keep making rookie mistakes despite my best efforts. I would be a fool to say that the Russian relative success is because
of my prowess at the game (HA!)

I played WITP and WITP AE for 10 years and extensively modded to the point where there was nothing left of the game to learn.
I lament that level of expertise that I don't possess in WITE.

I will build the cavalry corps as fast as possible. Would you recommend distinct armies or is it better to attack a cavalry corps to infantry armies?

What is a suggested HQ support level, should I disband any support units that don't fit?
ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

You should already have at least 15 cavalry corps with sapper attachments. You aren't gaining anything through delay based on what is shown here.

As far as HQ support levels go, all that should be over and done with, HQs locked, by the end of Summer '41. Not sure what your intent is here.

RE: final thoughts

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:39 am
by GabrielBora
ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

You should already have at least 15 cavalry corps with sapper attachments. You aren't gaining anything through delay based on what is shown here.

The amount of replacements received while being atached to a front line unit , severly limits their efectivnes.

I prefer to keep them in the HQ, so they can receive adequate repacements.

Turn 26 - Dec 11, 1941

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:17 pm
by topeverest
Real life and real jobs get in the way sometimes.

Germans launch several single hex counterattacks where I pushed in only 1 or 2 points.
Russians continue the methodical reduction of the Moscow front, making steady if unspectacular progress.
along the rest of the MLR, Russians attack in fits and spurts to hold troops

Support Unit Check

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:28 pm
by topeverest
Question regarding support units.

What is a suggested mix of support units. I need to set them to manual next turn and disband some units of marginal use. here is what I have.

12 mortars (9 heavy)
28 AA units attached to armies (not cities)
103 artillery units
25 motorcycle
45 engineer (22 regiment and 23 battalion)

What would be a good approach. Thinking of getting rid of AAs first for sappers

Thoughts?

Moscow Detail

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:37 pm
by topeverest
21 hexes taken in the campaign for Moscow, including getting across Uka east of Kaluga.

The same general plan exists - to push from three sides and pocket what I can

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RE: Support Unit Check

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:07 am
by GabrielBora
ORIGINAL: topeverest

Question regarding support units.

What is a suggested mix of support units. I need to set them to manual next turn and disband some units of marginal use. here is what I have.

12 mortars (9 heavy)
28 AA units attached to armies (not cities)
103 artillery units
25 motorcycle
45 engineer (22 regiment and 23 battalion)

What would be a good approach. Thinking of getting rid of AAs first for sappers

Thoughts?

this is what the soviets had in jan 42, so you could make up your mind .

56 tank batalions
57 atg regiments
119 arty regiments
88 aaa bat + 2 aaa regiments.
18 mortar batalions
6 rocket regiments + (73 batalions (equivalent to 24 regiments))
31 separate ponton bridge batalions
150 engineer batalions (equivalent to 50 sapper regiments)
32 engineer brigades (construction units)

http://teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/BoevojSos ... -1942.html





turn 27 - Dec 18 1941

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:29 pm
by topeverest
On the glacial pace of gaming goes, entirely my fault due to work and family commitments.

Third turn of Soviet winter counteroffensive
1- 51 total hexes retaken from the Crimea to Vyshny
2- Ruskies attack across the Crimea isthmus and break out into the Ukraine. This could be a major land grab opportunity.
3- Germany pushed back across the Klyazma river northeast of Moscow. Ruskies one hex from the eastern two hexes of the city. make good progress in the north of Moscow too.
4- Belgorod retaken

Russians finish building out cavalry corps
Russians continue to build maximum new air units per turn
70% of winter offensive forces are up at the combat zones
Russians use excess rail capacity to move industry that will be at risk next summer


Crimera attack

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:35 pm
by topeverest
Lots of success here. He appears to be under-trooped and that should create good opportunity to advance.

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Moscow

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:37 pm
by topeverest
More steady progress. Should reach Moscow next turn. I plan to surround it, not attack into it.

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RE: Support Unit Check

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:45 pm
by topeverest
Thanks for the intel...no big decisions. I have support set at 4 for now. Struggling with setting to 0 / manual.

ORIGINAL: GabrielBora

this is what the soviets had in jan 42, so you could make up your mind .

56 tank batalions
57 atg regiments
119 arty regiments
88 aaa bat + 2 aaa regiments.
18 mortar batalions
6 rocket regiments + (73 batalions (equivalent to 24 regiments))
31 separate ponton bridge batalions
150 engineer batalions (equivalent to 50 sapper regiments)
32 engineer brigades (construction units)

http://teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/BoevojSos ... -1942.html





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