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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:25 am
by RedJohn
My opponent has also wisened up and started attaching multi-role units to panzers, as well as being strict about having motorised regiments on them also. I'd have broken central if not for the retreating unit buffing the holding hexes CV - alas.
What we failed in AFV trades we make up for in infantry hits. Many a german regiment, and some divisions, have been forced to retreat. Very good whenever this happens.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:36 am
by RedJohn
OOB.
Turn ended! Very sad turn, but that's life as Soviets in the 41. Despite the many hilarious advantages, ultimately your TOEs still suck and trading is never even.
Still, he's made barely any progress in Centre and Leningrad. I have reserves coming over the next few turns, such as an additional 20 rifle divisions, (of mostly 50% TOE trash, but hey) and 8 fresh mountain divisions.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:59 am
by s2tanker
Bug? Somehow the T-34 and Il-2 factories evacuated out of Kharkov even though surrounded. That will hurt in the long run. Impossible magic evacuation.
RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:13 am
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: s2tanker
Bug? Somehow the T-34 and Il-2 factories evacuated out of Kharkov even though surrounded. That will hurt in the long run. Impossible magic evacuation.
In the manual this will happen. No bug at all. Last bullet of rule 30.2.1. Does not matter if surrounded or not. The evacuation will take place.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:43 am
by RedJohn
I manually evacuated the factories a turn prior. They didn't disappear during the turn, so I assume they moved during my end turn.
Despite tens of soviet games at this point it's quite literally my first ever time trying it out, as per whoever suggested I do it for Kharkov earlier in the AAR. [:'(]
RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:43 am
by Stamb
It was me

. What is the damage for this factories?
Also what is the TOE for your tank/mech divisions? You are using them very actively and I can not imagine that you can get enough AFV replacements to them, even with Soviet production.
RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:21 am
by s2tanker
Oh. I thought I saw them there as I surrounded Kharkov. Perhaps I'm thinking of the prior turn.
RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:19 pm
by RedJohn
ORIGINAL: Stamb
It was me

. What is the damage for this factories?
Also what is the TOE for your tank/mech divisions? You are using them very actively and I can not imagine that you can get enough AFV replacements to them, even with Soviet production.
I've shifted to using my AFVs defensively, in centre, which has had good results. But yeah my AFVs are very beat up.
Less than 600 AFVs in Rokossovoskys army.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:20 pm
by RedJohn
Another beat up army.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:21 pm
by RedJohn
The 28th is doing relatively well though, considering.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:22 pm
by RedJohn
Turn 12 losses - I got some good reserve activations, some less good ones in centre.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:26 pm
by RedJohn
I believe these were the factories evacuated from Kharkov - or some of them, at least. I forgot where they moved to.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:27 pm
by RedJohn
And some T-34 here. These are the only two spots with damaged T34 factories.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:39 pm
by Stamb
You can evacuate everything during 1 turn?
RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:49 pm
by RedJohn
ORIGINAL: Stamb
You can evacuate everything during 1 turn?
Yes, I don't think there's a delay? Certainly, everything had left Kharkov.
RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:56 pm
by RedJohn
Overall a quiet turn besides hitting regiments. A potential pocket forming against us in Centre, we'll see if he closes it. He has a panzer on reserve for whatever reason, which is why those 2 holds were holds.
But hey it drains his MP for only a few thousand dead, so I'll take it.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:08 pm
by RedJohn
OOB End of turn 12.

RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:14 pm
by Stamb
Is there any reason for not using GS during your attacks? Or you are so confident that is it not worth to make additional clicks?
RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:20 pm
by RedJohn
ORIGINAL: Stamb
Is there any reason for not using GS during your attacks? Or you are so confident that is it not worth to make additional clicks?
I've found it does very little, and I'd rather suicide my planes interdicting/ground bombing.
German regiments are terrible, and their CVs wildly misleading. It's almost never worth it to break them down except in the VL deadzone with tons of heavy forest and the like. Soviets can reliably hit them, as I have been doing.
RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in cheek aar
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:37 pm
by AlbertN
GS does pratically nothing - I agree with that.