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ORIGINAL: Froonp
About UK (Post #122) :
You talk about Liverpool & Scapa Flow, you should also mention Plymouth which is not the least important of the 3.
Scapa Flow is crap for instance. No supply.

About India (Post #123) :
It seems you have taken the screenshot of India before modifications were made to it. Bombay changed.

About Minor Countries (post #124) :
You should point out in the 1st para that (2) and (3) have the same effect : having the minor country aligned to a major power.
Also, you talk about the armies of the minor countries, and specificaly about "Reserve units". Reserve units, I mean the real reserve from MWiF, DO NOT enter the map at the declaration of war. They are put in the reinforcement spiral and arrive at the beginning of the next turn. ONLY Major Powers reserve units are set up on the map (face-down). Some units are set up on the map when a Minor Country gets aligned, but not the reserve.

About Mid East (Post #125) :
You write "Jordon", instead of "Jordan".
About units of Minor Countries leaving their country, the rule rule is not as you describe. It is more subtle. The rule is :

Quote of RAW :
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19.4 Minor country units
(...)
Minor country units can move and fight outside their home country. However, you can only move a minor country land or aircraft unit outside the home country controlled by the minor, if half or more of its on map land and aircraft units are currently inside its home country (exception: Rumania becomes a full Axis ally ~ see 19.6.2).
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So, at the moment of the unit exiting the country, you check. The end result may be that there are more than half the Minor Country unit outside its country.

In the same post, you write "This is especially true with Territorial Units. Territories are described next". Reading this, one could believe that Territorials and Territories are related one to the other, which is wrong. There can be Territorials of Major Powers (India, South Africa, Australian, Canada), Minor countries (Palestine, Egypt, Burma....), and Territories (New Caledonia for example.)

About Post #126 :
You write that the Philippines are a Territory, which is wrong.
A Territory is as a Minor Country, except that it has no Capital City. Sardinia is one example, Gibraltar is another, Bahrain a third, and generaly all Archipelago are territories, the Solomon, the Gilbert, the Carolines, there are about 80-90 Territories in MWiF. There was an argument in this regard on the WiF Discussion List, and I asked Harry who arbitrated in this way (because RAW contradict itself about this).
There are also 110-120 Minor Countries.

I love the Page 14 of 14. In the final version, you will only pt pictures from ingame, will you ?

About India (Post #123) :
It seems you have taken the screenshot of India before modifications were made to it. Bombay changed.

ORIGINAL: Froonp

About India (Post #123) :
It seems you have taken the screenshot of India before modifications were made to it. Bombay changed.

About this one, it is me who forgot to make the mod in the CSV files.

Patrice, how about moving the major port symbol for Liverpool to position 12 (12 o'clock)?

That should help clarify this somewhat. I also want to do something about the sea area boundaries as they enter coastal hexes - make them a little longer if nothing else.

I expect to discuss reserve units at a later point in the tutorials. Declarations of war seems to be the right place.

If the WIF discussion group had to go to Harry for clarification, then no wonder I was somewhat confused about the difference.

Other ideas about what could be added there? Anyone?

ORIGINAL: Froonp

Patrice, how about moving the major port symbol for Liverpool to position 12 (12 o'clock)?

I would prefer if the player knew that the position of the port is irrelevant within the hex. If we go this way, there would be too many ports symbols to check all around the world, and I prefer to give them a realistic position within the hex. For example, if we go this way, we will soon say that Barrow is too near to the Sea Area Boundary, and someone will ask it to be shifted to the north of the hex.

That should help clarify this somewhat. I also want to do something about the sea area boundaries as they enter coastal hexes - make them a little longer if nothing else.

This is good IMO.

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: Froonp

Patrice, how about moving the major port symbol for Liverpool to position 12 (12 o'clock)?

I would prefer if the player knew that the position of the port is irrelevant within the hex. If we go this way, there would be too many ports symbols to check all around the world, and I prefer to give them a realistic position within the hex. For example, if we go this way, we will soon say that Barrow is too near to the Sea Area Boundary, and someone will ask it to be shifted to the north of the hex.

That should help clarify this somewhat. I also want to do something about the sea area boundaries as they enter coastal hexes - make them a little longer if nothing else.

This is good IMO.

Or it could be mentioned in the tutorial that the placement of the port icon is not important, what matters is the hex in question and its surrounding hexes. If you then draw attention to the Liverpool hex, and tell the player to notice the small but important sea area that is next to liverpool to the north which makes the Liverpool port open to two sea areas (wow, talk about lost in translation [:D]).

To me that would encourage me to have a closer look at key-points on the map, is that hex near one or two sea areas, what weather zone is it in etc. Just might be a way to get players to take a closer look at the map. Oh well just me ramblin' away I guess [:)]

ORIGINAL: Ballista
Re:Philippines

How about some mentioning of some specific restrictions and some of the options that the US can take for the territories (the US options was always the hardest things in terms of agonizing over when playing the US as a new player). It could fill in some of the space and also "nudge" the player to reading the relevent rules sections dealing with US entry options (which are pretty long and important IMHO).

For some extra stuff:
As an aside, maybe you can mention the guerilla war we fought there after the acquiring the Philippines, and the eventual acquisition of the .45 pistol (the military needed a handgun that could put a man down with one shot). And this links to the fact that when the Japanese conquer the territory there always seem to be partisans popping up there.


As for Alaska, you can mention that Attu and Kiska was the only soveriegn US soil occuppied by the enemy in WW2 and the recapture of those islands were preludes to full fledged island hopping campaigns of the later part of the war as well as providing us with our 1st working copy of the Zero fighter so we could find its weaknesses.....

ORIGINAL: Jeff Gilbert
About Post 128
1st paragraph about Gibraltar, last sentance.
... , but the side without Gibraltar is locked in ...
not in locked in.

Just trying to help. [:)]

ORIGINAL: sajbalk

Re post 123 (India)

Sri Lanka was never a part of the country of India. Ceylon is the WWII appellation.

ORIGINAL: Froonp

About the second writup, where you describe MTN units, I think there is an error.
The MTN units special movement ability in WiF FE is restricted to the Pacific scaled hexes IIRC, so in MWiF it should not exist.

Also, as a remark, you should maybe choose a screenshot where there are Alpine hexsides within mountains, this would kill 2 bird with 1 stone.