RE: 1943 October 02
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:39 pm
And the last two.


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Sussex did sink. the air battles over Rangoon were just as fierce and the losses for the day are shown below. All in all, both our troops and the Empire's were subject to air strikes, although our troops were much better protected. In the end, I think it was the tanks that made the difference, being awesome on defense. I thought that a shock attack was in order, but in hindsight that would have been an outright disaster for the Empire.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 54,54, Range 2,000 Yards
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 4 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Musashi, Shell hits 23, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CA Maya, Shell hits 1
DD Akizuki, Shell hits 2
DD Susuzuki, Shell hits 1
DD Hatsuzuki
Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire
CA Sussex, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 5
DD Stronghold
DD Tenedos
DD Thanet, Shell hits 3, on fire
Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 21% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 21% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 2,000 yards
CA Cornwall fires at BB Musashi at 2,000 yards
Magazine explodes on BB Musashi
BB Musashi sunk by CA Sussex at 2,000 yards
CA Cornwall fires at DD Susuzuki at 2,000 yards
CA Sussex launches Torpedoes at DD Akizuki at 2,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Akizuki at 2,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CA Maya at 2,000 yards
DD Susuzuki engages DD Thanet at 2,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Akizuki at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CA Sussex engages CA Maya at 5,000 yards
CA Maya engages CA Dorsetshire at 5,000 yards
CA Sussex engages DD Susuzuki at 5,000 yards
DD Akizuki engages DD Thanet at 5,000 yards
Palliser, Arthur FE orders Allied TF to disengage
Task forces break off...
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In China the stalwarts (2 units who had not retreated) from that larger ragtag group of survivors that made it back to friendly lines was destroyed in their effort to screen their fellows. Allied infantry divisions are closing in on the area so the road between Tsuyung and Kunming should hold, as should both Kunming and Tsuyung.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Rangoon (54,53)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 56736 troops, 421 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 2090
Defending force 34324 troops, 408 guns, 1160 vehicles, Assault Value = 776
Japanese adjusted assault: 833
Allied adjusted defense: 1477
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
5064 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 428 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 46 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled
Guns lost 47 (2 destroyed, 45 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1268 casualties reported
Squads: 34 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 28 (15 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 54 (22 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Assaulting units:
9th Division
3rd Division
63rd Inf Group Brigade
40th Inf Group Brigade
16th Garrison Unit
1st RTA/A Division
29th Division
1st RTA/B Division
211th Ship Eng Coy
1st Air Army
34th Field AA Battalion
18th JNAF AF Unit
311th Ship Eng Coy
1st RF Gun Battalion
62nd JAAF AF Bn
Defending units:
16th LRP Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
14th LRP Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
Gardner's Horse Regiment
255th Armoured Brigade
150th RAC Regiment
45th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
72nd British Brigade
Americal Infantry Division
23rd LRP Brigade
XV Indian Corps
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I expect the magazine explosion didn't help the Musashi - one of those random things.ORIGINAL: princep01
Musashi sank from 2 torpedo hits and 20+ 8" hits??? Something is wrong there. FOW may apply such that the battle report is under/overstated and the sinking of Musashi may be FOW too, but if it did sink, I am aghast, no, agog, that Musashi could be sunk with 8" hits and a couple of torpedos.
I would not be surprised to see her sail forth in a few months.
I don't know if Michael made any changes to that, but AE from day one has had some important differences in damage routines from WITP. Systems includes the damage control function, so the greater the sys damage the worse the ship is able to perform damage control.ORIGINAL: obvert
Interesting on Musashi. I wonder also if some of the work michaelm did on the affects of system damage made ships more vulnerable to this kind of thing after many non-penetrating hits. Jocke and I found a situation where his BBs were bombed extensively, but didn't show device damage until in port under repair.
I wonder if he changes made to allow that damage to be shown immediately now makes these kinds of things more likely to occur?



With only supply to work with - no fortifications and no anti-armor weapons - our guys did pretty darn well.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at 69,49 (near Kunming)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 10802 troops, 99 guns, 514 vehicles, Assault Value = 444
Defending force 27800 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 744
Japanese adjusted assault: 43
Allied adjusted defense: 1414
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 32
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
957 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 116 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 17 (11 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 183 (38 destroyed, 145 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
835 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
17th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
58th Infantry Regiment
6th Tank Regiment
104th/B Division
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
Kanno
Defending units:
14th Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Cavalry Division
32nd Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
27th Group Army
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Now flown by crack pilots our P-47s are performing great when acting as hunters, in this case sweeping. 6 P-47 pilots became aces over Rangoon today. See the air losses below for a complete tally, which included intercepting Helen raids, escorting B-17 raids, and of course the sweeps at Rangoon and Biak. Below are the P-47 sweeps over those two bases. Note that at Biak they had the assist of a nighttime bombardment.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on 3rd Carabiniers Regiment, at 54,53 (Rangoon)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 52
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 9
Ki-84a Frank x 19
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 10
P-40N1 Warhawk x 5
P-40N5 Warhawk x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-40N1 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
No.11 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
312th BG/388th BS with P-40K Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
51st FG/16th FS with P-40K Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
51st FG/25th FS with P-40K Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40K Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40K Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
80th FG/88th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
80th FG/89th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
80th FG/90th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
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POW will bombard Moulmein tonight, while a CA will bombard Tavoy, and a CL will run interference to try and intercept a 3x CM + xAK convoy seen moving along the coast. Other RN cruisers are on station for the following night.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 44
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 1
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 11 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet
CAP engaged:
24th Sentai/B with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 32560.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
202 Ku S-1 Det B with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 33800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
4th Sentai Det B with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 87 minutes
47th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 29000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 3 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 24000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 32560.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
77th Sentai Det A with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 22
Ki-84a Frank x 6
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 11 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet
CAP engaged:
24th Sentai/B with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes
202 Ku S-1 Det B with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
4th Sentai Det B with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
47th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 29000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 24000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
77th Sentai Det A with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 2
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 1
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
20 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet
CAP engaged:
24th Sentai/B with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
4th Sentai Det B with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
77th Sentai Det A with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Biak , at 87,110
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
246th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Biak , at 87,110
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet
CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
246th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 35000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes
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Even still this grinds away at the remaining defenders. Disruption is very high in our units and they will rest for likely 3 days before attacking again. The ships and planes will keep up the tempo.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Truk (112,108)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 34191 troops, 580 guns, 618 vehicles, Assault Value = 862
Defending force 12474 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 178
Allied adjusted assault: 1236
Japanese adjusted defense: 133
Allied assault odds: 9 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
734 casualties reported
Squads: 46 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (12 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1345 casualties reported
Squads: 58 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 19 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 22 (14 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 27 (15 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Assaulting units:
3rd Marine Division
762nd Tank Battalion
1st Marine Division
763rd Tank Battalion
24th Infantry Division
Otago (Mtd) Rifles Regiment
1st Fleet Advn Base Force
3rd NZ Division
Defending units:
Sasebo 5th SNLF
Guards Mixed Brigade
42nd Naval Guard Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
30th Infantry Regiment
41st Infantry Rgt /2
4th Base Force
Truk Naval Fortress
48th Naval Guard Unit
4th Port Unit


