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RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:54 pm
by Hongjian
According to my information, the HQ-9 series has limited TBM defense capability in the terminal stage. One of the selling points of the HQ-9/FD-2000, actually. But of course, it is far from ideal.
(Actually, the FD-2000 and naval HHQ-9s have active radar because of that, as the billboards of the Weapon Sales Shows point out)
The HQ-26 (China's SM-3 equivalent) is reportedly under testing, so at the moment PLAN ships would be quite vulnerable against ASBMs themselves.
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:03 am
by Dysta
All pictures of weapon showcases at Zhuhai Airshow 2016:
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2230165.html (Russian)
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:40 pm
by Hongjian
Good photos.
Especially great that we now officially see that the HQ-9B SAM is the real-deal - and that a land-based variant exists (in the DB3K, there's only a naval variant). This confirms years long speculation and internet rumors about the existence of this system.
I wish they would show the range and seeker type, since, according to rumors, Jane's earlier estimate that the HQ-9B was semi-active radar homing with secondary ImIR seeker was wrong, and the HQ-9B indeed is equipped with an active radar seeker, just like the new HQ-16B, as well as a range increase to up to 230km.
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:56 pm
by Hongjian
Finally got a designation for this Sino-StormShadow missile: GB-6A Powered Extended Range Standoff Dispenser Weapon
Warhead is 500kg
Too bad the range and exact dimensions are still unknown; but eyeballing and pixelcounting with help of the second picture that lets us compare with the known length of the PL-8 SRAAM, gives me about 4.8m. This is well within the typical length of comparable western munitions that are around 5 meters.

RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:50 am
by redcoat
The Times has revealed that Britain has deployed HMS Daring off the coast of Yemen to provide reassurance to commercial shipping passing through the Bab al-Mandeb strait.
Link
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:42 am
by AlGrant
There is very little I can say about this that wouldn't sound like a rant! [:@]
http://www.janes.com/article/65445/uk-to-retire-gws60-harpoon-at-end-of-2018
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The retirement of Harpoon will leave RN warships without a heavyweight surface-to-surface guided weapon (SSGW), opening up a gap in over-the-horizon anti-surface warfare capability.
Furthermore, with the helicopter-launched Sea Skua missile going out of service (OSD) at the end of March 2017, the RN will be devoid of any anti-surface guided weapon for about two years pending the introduction of the Sea Venom/ANL lightweight anti-ship missile on the Wildcat HMA.2 helicopter in late 2020."
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:17 pm
by Zaslon
ORIGINAL: AlGrant
There is very little I can say about this that wouldn't sound like a rant! [:@]
http://www.janes.com/article/65445/uk-to-retire-gws60-harpoon-at-end-of-2018
"
The retirement of Harpoon will leave RN warships without a heavyweight surface-to-surface guided weapon (SSGW), opening up a gap in over-the-horizon anti-surface warfare capability.
Furthermore, with the helicopter-launched Sea Skua missile going out of service (OSD) at the end of March 2017, the RN will be devoid of any anti-surface guided weapon for about two years pending the introduction of the Sea Venom/ANL lightweight anti-ship missile on the Wildcat HMA.2 helicopter in late 2020."
Oh my God! [X(]
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:06 am
by Dysta
During the Zhuhai Airshow 2016, there's a tech-demo animation of Chinese export versions of SAM, SSuM, ASuM, UAV and Radar, with a virtual map to simulate the combat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ldl3lmgllQ
The video is involved with:
- Air Defense, with an entire weapon systems from CIC:
:Sensor: Coastal Search Radar (Unknown, Generic)
:Sensor: LD-JP (Air Search Radar, FCR.
More info click here)
:LR SAM: FD-2000 (HQ-9)
:LR SAM: FK-3 (HQ-22), KS-1C (HQ-12)
:MR SAM: FM-3000 (not in service by PLA)
EDIT: Mistaken as HQ-17/Tor because of the similarities. Differences can be found from
this website (Simplified Chinese)
:SR SAM: FM-90 (HQ-7)
:SR&PD SAM: FL-2000C, FK-1000 (both not in service by PLA)
(LY-80/HQ-16 does not present or use during the demonstration)
- Sea Defense, with airbase, port and coastal radar commanded by CIC, 2 jets and a fleet:
:Sensor: Coastal Search Radar (Unknown, Generic)
:UAV: WJ-600 (recon and DR)
:SLCM: CM-708UNB (290km land & surface attack variant of YJ-82/CM-708UNA, service by PLAN is unknown)
:AL ASuM: C-802A (YJ-82A)
:ASuM: CM-302 (YJ-12), C-602 (YJ-62)
:PD SAM: FL-3000N (HQ-10)
(Does not simulate PoH, or chance of interception by Blue side).
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:50 am
by Broncepulido
Clear and short article on MiG-31 and his possible future:
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/russia ... -old-18376
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:17 am
by mikmykWS
ORIGINAL: Dysta
During the Zhuhai Airshow 2016, there's a tech-demo animation of Chinese export versions of SAM, SSuM, ASuM, UAV and Radar, with a virtual map to simulate the combat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ldl3lmgllQ
The video is involved with:
- Air Defense, with an entire weapon systems from CIC:
:Sensor: Coastal Search Radar (Unknown, Generic)
:Sensor: LD-JP (Air Search Radar, FCR.
More info click here)
:LR SAM: FD-2000 (HQ-9)
:LR SAM: FK-3 (HQ-22), KS-1C (HQ-12)
:MR SAM: FM-3000 (HQ-17, PLA use tracked version vehicle like Tor)
:SR SAM: FM-90 (HQ-7)
:SR&PD SAM: FL-2000C, FK-1000 (both not in service by PLA)
(LY-80/HQ-16 does not present or use during the demonstration)
- Sea Defense, with airbase, port and coastal radar commanded by CIC, 2 jets and a fleet:
:Sensor: Coastal Search Radar (Unknown, Generic)
:UAV: WJ-600 (recon and DR)
:SLCM: CM-708UNB (290km land & surface attack variant of YJ-82/CM-708UNA, service by PLAN is unknown)
:AL ASuM: C-802A (YJ-82A)
:ASuM: CM-302 (YJ-12), C-602 (YJ-62)
:PD SAM: FL-3000N (HQ-10)
(Does not simulate PoH, or chance of interception by Blue side)
LOL. Yes internally we've added a ton of db requests. Need to see what actually pans out but will be doing lots of additions.
Thanks!
Mike
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:24 am
by Gneckes
ORIGINAL: Dysta
(Does not simulate PoH, or chance of interception by Blue side)
Of course not, it's an advertisement after all.
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:01 pm
by Hongjian
:MR SAM: FM-3000 (HQ-17, PLA use tracked version vehicle like Tor)
The FM-3000 is rather comparable with the 9M96E (40km range as well), which is a medium range anti-ordnance missile for the S-400 complex, comparable with the ESSM.
Rumors say that the DK-10/VLS-launched PL-12 didnt win the PLAN contender for the VLS-quad-packed medium-range ESSM-equivalent, but the FM-3000 did. The TEL, in any case, shows that four cells can be packed quite close to each other.
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:09 pm
by Hongjian
Some surprising revelation about the MTOW of the JH-7A;
It seems that incremental upgrades over the years have brought the MTOW to 34,5 tons from 28,5 tons, and the payload to 10 tons from 7 tons.
This might be one of the reasons why the PLAN is still quite satisfied with the JH-7A, despite having the option of using J-16 or Su-30MKK/MK2 for that role.
Recent official figures;
Old Airshow figures for the export variant:

RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:36 pm
by AlGrant
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:31 pm
by Gunner98
Here is the Fox News coverage of the MiG-29. Don't know if this is confirmation or simply rebroadcast. Interesting photo, looks like the MiG's are burning coal!
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/11/14 ... s-say.html
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RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:36 pm
by AlGrant
Another report says it was a flight of 3.
1 crashed, 1 recovered, 1 diverted.
https://theaviationist.com/?p=40444
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:29 am
by Hongjian
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:45 pm
by Triode
meet Kuznetsov Airgroup weapon of choice for first strike , FAB-500 M54

also many photos :
http://milinfolive.livejournal.com/1211.html
interesting thing that according to "REN-TV" preparation of strike for Su-33 with 2xR-73 2xR-27ER and 2xFAB-500 take 40 min.
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:55 pm
by kevinkins
Gotta start somewhere and use up the stock pile - I guess. Is that guy fitted with any precision guidence?
Thanks for the post
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:02 pm
by mikmykWS
Not the bomb. The aircraft just received a new Gefest SVP-24 bombing systems which allows them to drop unguided munitions with greater precision. THe SU-33 has never been a bomber before so there is a lot of speculation of what the loadouts actually are. My sense is to be patient and we'll see in a couple days.
Mike