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RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:25 am
by obvert
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Obvert: Didn't you have sync bug issues as well?
As stated earlier and as Capt Harlock points out, my chief concern here is to make sure there is no Mod-related issue here that further worsens an already bad situation for Dan. It would be fixable but I think Dan is at a points of no return with members of the forum and his AAR.
We had a few but nothing unusual or continuing. Not sure how this applies though. The big early battles were not affected.
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:14 am
by Walloc
ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
As Dan cant see stuff here and i dont crosspost posts, i dont particular like post this as he cant read it.
I'm not violating OpSec; my post was based on the message from Dan that John posted earlier.
I wasnt suggesting that, i was making a general observation about my preferences [:)]
Rasmus
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:36 pm
by ny59giants
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RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:46 pm
by Cpt Sherwood
Does he really think that is an excuse? He needs to be working on the R.A. 6.0 mod and getting it fixed and ready to play. [:)]
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:04 pm
by zuluhour
Hey its legal in Colorado, he could get high above it.[8D][:D]
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:31 pm
by John 3rd
ORIGINAL: Cpt Sherwood
Does he really think that is an excuse? He needs to be working on the R.A. 6.0 mod and getting it fixed and ready to play. [:)]
Well...one DOES have to have some PRIORITIES!
HOLY CATS Gang. The Platte River is normal about deep enough for a 2 year-old to get across at this time of the year. NOT NOW! As Michael said the river is about 1/2 a mile from us and, thankfully, we sit on a bluff about 40-50 Ft above the height of the river. The river is now fully 800+ Yards across and it is all MOVING fast. We've lost about 12-24 homes near or in town. Paula and I went for a walk and will Post some pictures. We're in no real danger at this point but it is an amazing and terrifying display of Mother Nature.
Lost power for about 3-4 hours but it is back for the moment. We'll see how long that lasts.
Once dinner is done we'll Post pics....
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:39 pm
by zuluhour
Stay safe and dry friend.
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:33 pm
by moore4807
+1
Prayers for everybody affected there...
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:37 pm
by Chickenboy
Hope your family is OK, John.
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:40 pm
by Sangeli
Here are my 2 cents...
I'm playing RA (I think 5.0 but I can't remember) as the Allies in my game against Rev Rico and I have to say that the fighter pools are fine. I'm able to make up for the lack of fighter planes with careful management of pilots and frames to maximize their effectiveness. While I can't fill out all my squadrons, I'm able to keep the front line units stocked with frames and am able to put up a fight.
As people have correctly pointed out, Dan was just way too aggressive. I remember thinking when he started the whole Sumatra campaign that he was crazy...you just don't do stuff like that in 1942. He needed to stick to his guns which are 4E, supply, engineers, and fight you where those give him those advantages. Sumatra is NOT that place. Too big and too many bases for you to counterattack from. And lastly, the idea of putting all your fighters in Sabang is INSANE! When I saw Dan say he was going to do that I could already tell it could not end well. Open terrain and no supporting bases. You could simply overpower him with a combination of sweeps and naval bombardment and then just destroy EVERY air frame that gets stuck damaged in the base. And honestly a player who is willing to subject his fighters to such punishment deserves to have low air frames...which is why I never do things like that. AFBs need to leverage all their fighter pools in 1942 for TRAINING not for FIGHTING. 1942 is about getting ready for the fights later on by building up bases, training pilots, and sometimes pushing back the Japanese when they get too frisky. It's not about bringing the fight to Japan in big battlefieds.
Anyway, nicely done. Even if he comes back to continue the game you'll have no problem crushing Sabang.
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:50 pm
by John 3rd
Thanks guys.
Looks like things are improving (but it is starting to rain again). We kept power all night and day so that helped a bunch.
They re-opened Highway 85 this afternoon and so traffic is moving as well as access to the hospital, grocery stores, etc...
Damage is pretty horrific. My little town has had about 40-50 house destroyed/flooded. Farms trashed, the railroad bridge is gone, about 5,000 people evacuated just north of us in Evans. We have pictures and I'll Post them in the General Forum Thread.
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:53 pm
by PaxMondo
My brother has 10 acres just outside of Longmont ... yep, got himself a nice little lake there now. [;)]
Kids are all happy, no school. Mom is ok, no work. My Brother? Not sure, all this racket disturbing his retirement!
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:24 pm
by John 3rd
I am not sure if he Posted it over in his thread but Dan's Father died today. He has alot to do and expressed concerns regarding whether or not to restart our match. I wrote the following:
Dan,
My heartfelt condolences to you and your family. Been there and done this in the recent past. Best wishes for all you have to do. I am well familiar coordinating a funeral with lots of family and friends to be thought of.
You take care of what you have to do. My Father’s loss hits me at the weirdest times. We decided to watch the original True Grit a couple of days ago. Sounded great. One of my favorites and then I realized it was one of Dad’s. Made me depressed as the movie went on. Sad but real story.
To HELL (pardon my French) with our game. Work on you situation and we can talk whenever you are ready. I’ll work to get 6.0 released and deal with our real life issues here. Check out the Thread I am about to start with pictures of this horrific flood. We got pretty darned lucky...
Warmly and, as always, your friend.
John
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:42 am
by John 3rd
Thread started in the General Forum...
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:00 am
by John 3rd
I have invited Dan to read the AAR if he wishes.
Want to thank all the readers and contributors to this game. REALLY appreciate you thoughts, support and comments.
Don't worry though---we be BACK with an RA 6.0 AAR sometime soon....
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:39 am
by pws1225
Thanks John, it was a fun ride. Looking forward to your next AAR.
Regards, Paul
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:54 am
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Thread started in the General Forum...
Couldn't find it. Can you link?
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:58 am
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
Here are my 2 cents...
I'm playing RA (I think 5.0 but I can't remember) as the Allies in my game against Rev Rico and I have to say that the fighter pools are fine. I'm able to make up for the lack of fighter planes with careful management of pilots and frames to maximize their effectiveness. While I can't fill out all my squadrons, I'm able to keep the front line units stocked with frames and am able to put up a fight.
As people have correctly pointed out, Dan was just way too aggressive. I remember thinking when he started the whole Sumatra campaign that he was crazy...you just don't do stuff like that in 1942. He needed to stick to his guns which are 4E, supply, engineers, and fight you where those give him those advantages. Sumatra is NOT that place. Too big and too many bases for you to counterattack from. And lastly, the idea of putting all your fighters in Sabang is INSANE! When I saw Dan say he was going to do that I could already tell it could not end well. Open terrain and no supporting bases. You could simply overpower him with a combination of sweeps and naval bombardment and then just destroy EVERY air frame that gets stuck damaged in the base. And honestly a player who is willing to subject his fighters to such punishment deserves to have low air frames...which is why I never do things like that. AFBs need to leverage all their fighter pools in 1942 for TRAINING not for FIGHTING. 1942 is about getting ready for the fights later on by building up bases, training pilots, and sometimes pushing back the Japanese when they get too frisky. It's not about bringing the fight to Japan in big battlefieds.
Anyway, nicely done. Even if he comes back to continue the game you'll have no problem crushing Sabang.
Dan isn't crazy. He, like Castor Troy, has shown repeatedly that the game does allow for successful aggressive moves in '42 by a skilled Allied player. The caveat here is that both have proven that in stock scenarios. He just bit off more than he could chew by assuming he could do the same in this mod. Dan is and will continue to remain one of the most respected Allied players here, at least amongst us AFBs. If his reputation has been tarnished, it is with the JFBs who perceived his complaints about the pools to be whining.
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:52 pm
by John 3rd
Dan is an excellent player who is first and foremost a Gentleman.
Simple reality is that he bit off FAAAAR more then he could chew. He didn't go far enough in his Sumatra Gambit. Should have gone far farther and never allowed me to get back into the match. He has me dead-to-rights but then blinked. As stated back at the time of hte landing I immediately saw the chance for opportunity and it was going to result in a massive Allied Surrender in Mar--April 1943.
I'm tired of the Mod comments Hans. This Mod is no where near Scenario 2. Sits pretty firmly between 1 and 2. Think that has been pretty well settled in the RA 6.0 Fact--Fiction Thread.
In ANY GAME an Allied Player staging late-1942 massed invasion faces the chance for great glory or great disaster. This would have ended in disaster.
I applaud Dan's work and his attempt to swing for the fences. Had he included Palembang, Singers, or Java the plan would have won the war for the Allies.
RE: Changing Situation
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:40 pm
by moore4807
John,
I'm curious what your plans are, are you going to take 6.0 out for a spin now? Do another AAR with it (hopefully)?
Any way you and CR are BOTH good and wise teachers. When you were kind enough to ask my opinion on the aircraft pools, I gave it some thought and now after reading HansBolter's answer to Sangeli. I would like to modify my answer...
A lot of the battle locations are determined by the players action plans, I consider John3rd a superior tactician and while it is true that the Japanese have superiority in 1942, even John cannot cover everything - and that is where players like CR show thier brilliance. The moves CR made were copied and repreated by many including me in my PBEM game. For instance in my case it was blunting and then repelling the Jap advance in Burma using mostly British and Aussie aircraft & troops and chasing LarryF back down to the peninsula, the cost to me was the USN exposing itself by hitting bases in the Sothern Pacific mostly to keep LarryF from rushing everything over to Burma to take it back. So far I'm successfully attacking but bogging down in the jungles and losing some Burma/British troops to withdrawl is going to make it dicey for a while, until I can reinforce.
It's all Risk/Reward as always but CR literally threw the kitchen sink at John game wise, just a tad too early IMHO. That he nearly pulled it off is quite impressive and the SRA is the key to the war is true, but where and when to strike are the vital marks to watch. I really enjoyed following the match and hope to see them both soon on these pages shortly.
PS - How is the flooding in CO now? The story dropped off the face of the national news so we could see stupid things like Emmy memorial controversies... (groan...)