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Posted: **Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:45 am**

The Dutch hold again...the IJA troopers must be very heavily fatigued and disrupted.

Posted: **Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:53 am**

A lot of these arriving American squadrons will simply train, until the Indian infrastructure catches up and can accommodate them.

Posted: **Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:56 am**

The IJN continues taking low hanging fruit...

Posted: **Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:27 am**

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

The Dutch hold again...the IJA troopers must be very heavily fatigued and disrupted.

No fatigue/disruption malus shows up on the CR though. Is it possible to have that effect without showing up?
I thought maybe supply was inadequate but not zero, which might not show as a supply malus?

Posted: **Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:28 am**

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

A lot of these arriving American squadrons will simply train, until the Indian infrastructure catches up and can accommodate them.

The consequences of showing where KB and MKB are located - free rein in other theaters! [:)]

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:36 am**

Snowing again, today, heavy (at least for our area). Beautiful.[;)]

Starting to analyze our plane pools, squadrons, etc.

Here are fighters. As I understand it, if a squadron is set to be removed, the planes get withdrawn too. If I can upgrade then the planes are sent to the pools.

PDU off game...

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:47 am**

Ship losses for the day

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:04 pm**

Why does this squadron jump to Mohawk and not upgrade to the earlier arriving planes?

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:38 pm**

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Snowing again, today, heavy (at least for our area). Beautiful.[;)]

Starting to analyze our plane pools, squadrons, etc.

Here are fighters. As I understand it, if a squadron is set to be removed, the planes get withdrawn too. If I can upgrade then the planes are sent to the pools.

PDU off game...

Not sure about the aircraft going to the pools, but you do not have to send the pilots with the aircraft when you do withdraw the unit. [;)]

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:41 pm**

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Why does this squadron jump to Mohawk and not upgrade to the earlier arriving planes?

I suspect that is historic. The British would not have known how many Buffalo aircraft would be available at that time and made plans based on purchasing some Mohawks. That kind of inability to respond to the actual situation is why I will never play PDU OFF again.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:04 pm**

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

As I understand it, if a squadron is set to be removed, the planes get withdrawn too. If I can upgrade then the planes are sent to the pools.

My observation is not exactly....with RESTRICTED units, you lose the planes and pilots. So when those are withdrawn, you need to peel off any pilots you want. This mostly applies to all the USAAF units around the West Coast. Note on these, however, that many may have planes you want to keep, like P-38Es. Provided you can get a full complement of 25 replacement planes, you can swap them out for P-26s or whatever before they withdraw. I think it's worth doing even on units that are short planes; I would trade 25 x P-26 for 12 x P-38E any day. In this way, all your older planes will leave the map.

UNRESTRICTED units, however, you retain the planes and pilots in pool when withdrawn (unless they are damaged at a low-supply base or something like that)

Somebody please correct any of this if I am wrong.....

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:51 pm**

ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Why does this squadron jump to Mohawk and not upgrade to the earlier arriving planes?

Group upgrade path is set in the scenario and does not relate to the airframe availability timing.

ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Here are fighters. As I understand it, if a squadron is set to be removed, the planes get withdrawn too. If I can upgrade then the planes are sent to the pools.

Groups can be set either to withdraw or disband. First ones will take the airframes and pilots with them (pilots you can pull out). First ones also demand a full complement of airframes to upgrade (so that you not upgrade to 1-2 planes from some obscure model left in the pools), second ones can upgrade to whatever # of planes for the next option on the path. With PDU OFF I suppose there is no point trying to upgrade groups before withdrawal.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:13 pm**

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

As I understand it, if a squadron is set to be removed, the planes get withdrawn too. If I can upgrade then the planes are sent to the pools.

My observation is not exactly....with RESTRICTED units, you lose the planes and pilots. So when those are withdrawn, you need to peel off any pilots you want. This mostly applies to all the USAAF units around the West Coast. Note on these, however, that many may have planes you want to keep, like P-38Es. Provided you can get a full complement of 25 replacement planes, you can swap them out for P-26s or whatever before they withdraw. I think it's worth doing even on units that are short planes; I would trade 25 x P-26 for 12 x P-38E any day. In this way, all your older planes will leave the map.

UNRESTRICTED units, however, you retain the planes and pilots in pool when withdrawn (unless they are damaged at a low-supply base or something like that)

Somebody please correct any of this if I am wrong.....

I agree. Two of 1st Pursuit Group’s squadrons have respectively 20 and 12 P-38E planes, and the HQ squadron has 2 (on a max of 5). Those are worth abandoning 55 older planes, and assigning them to an elite squadron. But beware their SR 4.

There’s also a 14th PG squadron but with only 5 P-38E ; this one I don’t find worth losing so many old planes.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:18 pm**

This is a PDU Off game , those squadrons dont have an upgrade path. P-38's are doomed to withdraw

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:29 pm**

ORIGINAL: Evoken

This is a PDU Off game , those squadrons dont have an upgrade path. P-38's are doomed to withdraw

Most sad! PDU-Off I think hurts the Japanese more than the Allies, but it does cut both ways sometimes....like this!

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:32 pm**

Right, all the P38 squadrons save one size 5 have no upgrade path, and will withdraw and are restricted. The size 5 squadron (with four planes) upgrades to a P40 strangely enough.[;)]

I managed to get the one P38 squadron to Pearl, which may or may not see a KB raid.

Ok, good to know that the pdu off upgrade path routinely skips earlier arriving planes...I thought it might have been an oversight.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:01 pm**

This turn, we are springing quite a few CAP traps, as the IJ have started to use their bombers a bit more aggressively.

Evacuating Perth to Kalgoorlie.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:01 pm**

Right, PDU Off.

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Right, all the P38 squadrons save one size 5 have no upgrade path, and will withdraw and are restricted. The size 5 squadron (with four planes) upgrades to a P40 strangely enough.[;)]

I managed to get the one P38 squadron to Pearl, which may or may not see a KB raid.

Ok, good to know that the pdu off upgrade path routinely skips earlier arriving planes...I thought it might have been an oversight.

AFAIK, it follows the historical changes of equipment of the squadrons. Some of the USMC squadrons also downgrade (or « upgrade down »), so if you start lacking some Wildcat models, you may check there.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:16 pm**

Jan 6th, 1942

One of many failed torpedo strikes today.[8|]

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:18 pm**

Use the deck gun! 11 hits … but hit 3 times.

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