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ORIGINAL: jumper

If he would split his KB and operate those parts separately, joined US/RN CVs could hold their ground against them, but at the current circumstances it will make nearly no difference IMO. You can´t fight against full KB yet and RN CVs will not change it. You won´t be threat for him until corsair arrives, if he will keep KB together..

BUT have you consider moving US and RN CVs to Perth instead of only british CVs to Pacific? What about a raid on Palembang or Java? As it looks now, you can´t use US CVs anyway in Truk area while KB is around.. And KB is not tied to this theater because of your CVs, so you can use them elsewhere. Take it as oportunity. Now you know, where KB is (with good part of LBA) and it means all other places are open to raid.. Or if you think Perth is too far away, you can make much shorter trip and raid his supply lines west of Wake. Hit and run..

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

Still i have to decide what to do with the RN...i don't see how i can threat him directly in india with only 3 brit CVs...while, at the same time those will be extremely valuable in the Pacific...but the voyage is extremely risky and the ultimate result will be the loss of a HUGE amount of PPs.... any suggestion?

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

Still i have to decide what to do with the RN...i don't see how i can threat him directly in india with only 3 brit CVs...while, at the same time those will be extremely valuable in the Pacific...but the voyage is extremely risky and the ultimate result will be the loss of a HUGE amount of PPs.... any suggestion?

Why would the RN in the Pac cost you PP?
Personally I doubt you would look for a carrier battle in the pacific anyway, so there is no need for the RN there. If in turn you are able to get the KB into a traveling mode between IO and Pac the japanese will burn huge amounts of fuel for nothing. But this of course means some serious action on the other end of the map that makes him want KB there...

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

Still i have to decide what to do with the RN...i don't see how i can threat him directly in india with only 3 brit CVs...while, at the same time those will be extremely valuable in the Pacific...but the voyage is extremely risky and the ultimate result will be the loss of a HUGE amount of PPs.... any suggestion?

If the British carriers leave Indian waters, he is free to send a lot of his land based air to the Pacific. With their presence at Aden as a threat in being, he needs to keep enough air along his costal bases to oppose a possible British invasion. Take them away and you free up a lot of Japanese airpower.

The only thing you gain by sending them to the Pacific is their armored decks in a long range CV battle. Within torpedo range they aren’t really any better than US CV’s. So if you don’t plan on fighting a CV battle, why send them?

If you do plan on fighting a CV battle, you’re playing right into his hands, as the loss of your remaining carriers would negate the advantage that holding the Marshalls gives you for your counter-attacks in 1943.

Patience, you’ll get to come out and play soon enough, but with KB now lurking in the Pacific, getting adventurous with your remaining carriers will probably end up seeing most of them on the bottom of the Pacific. If that happens, it’ll cost you a full year or more of counter-attack time as you only get one CV in 1943.

Husband your naval forces for later and look for opportunities to hurt him with your land based assets. He has to come to you in the Marshall’s, so you’ll get lots of chances to trim KB down to size over the next year or so.

With all his major goals in Asia requiring carrier support achieved now, he can dedicate KB to nothing else but hunting your naval assets in the Pacific now. So I’d say caution should rule your carrier ops from now on until you’re ready to come out swinging.

Jim

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner
it's just that it's a damned pain to wait another year and a hald to do anything

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner
it's just that it's a damned pain to wait another year and a hald to do anything

That’s part of the reason why New Guinea looks so good right now. If you build up those most northern bases in northeastern Oz, you can cover transport fleets going to and from Port Moresby with land based air cover.

That would allow you to launch an offensive drive up the New Guinea cost without having to risk your carriers. If you make this your main offensive focus for the next year, you’ll be in great shape come mid to late 43 when it comes time to launch attacks into his inner perimeter.

I’d send everything from the US from now on to Oz and start building up the NE ASAP. Once you have a good land based air presence, then send everything to PM and start marching up the coast. As long as you can keep copious amounts of supplies flowing into PM, he won’t be able to stop you. You may be able to take at least half of New Guinea or more by June/July of 43.

Jim

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Keep your CVs there to be able to escort supplies or fresh troops to karachi.

ORIGINAL: jumper

BTW I suppose he keeps some subs near entrance to Aden. You should have a good number of british DDs with their excellent xp and ASW rating, alongside with MSW/PC/PG. You can have only 6 ships per ASW TF, but noone says you can´t have 5 such TFs at one hex.. I would suggest some sub hunting. Kill his "eyes" and he will be much more nervous about your RN fleet. Cover them with your CVs if you think it is neccessary..

ORIGINAL: String

ORIGINAL: jumper

BTW I suppose he keeps some subs near entrance to Aden. You should have a good number of british DDs with their excellent xp and ASW rating, alongside with MSW/PC/PG. You can have only 6 ships per ASW TF, but noone says you can´t have 5 such TFs at one hex.. I would suggest some sub hunting. Kill his "eyes" and he will be much more nervous about your RN fleet. Cover them with your CVs if you think it is neccessary..

Aden channel entrance is covered by betties AFAIK so CV cover IS neccesary. This might be a good opportunity to kill some betties but also a good opportunity for troll to torpedo a few british CV's, either by a lucky sub or by betties swarming the cap.

ORIGINAL: soeren01

Can you reach Truk with some bombers ? If yes, try night attacks on his ports. With this much ships there you're bound to hit something.

You could do small unit paradrops or sub suizide landings at Kwajalein to lower his supply.

5. no night mission except for night fighter and Patrol boat units. Any side could convert a normal bomber unit to night bomber unit. To do so, they first have to be announced, after this, they act as night units and cannot henceforce be given day missions and cannot be converted back.

ORIGINAL: jumper

ORIGINAL: String

ORIGINAL: jumper

BTW I suppose he keeps some subs near entrance to Aden. You should have a good number of british DDs with their excellent xp and ASW rating, alongside with MSW/PC/PG. You can have only 6 ships per ASW TF, but noone says you can´t have 5 such TFs at one hex.. I would suggest some sub hunting. Kill his "eyes" and he will be much more nervous about your RN fleet. Cover them with your CVs if you think it is neccessary..

Aden channel entrance is covered by betties AFAIK so CV cover IS neccesary. This might be a good opportunity to kill some betties but also a good opportunity for troll to torpedo a few british CV's, either by a lucky sub or by betties swarming the cap.

yes, but you don´t have to stay there during the day. You may send ASW TF with retirement allowed. They will arrive at desired hex in the middle of the night, will try to get contact with sub and then retire back towards Aden.. DDs can go 5-6 hexes deep into hostile territory in such way..

ORIGINAL: jumper

But those paras are good idea. At least you will get good intel what is on the base..

ORIGINAL: soeren01

Can you reach Truk with some bombers ? If yes, try night attacks on his ports. With this much ships there you're bound to hit something.

You could do small unit paradrops or sub suizide landings at Kwajalein to lower his supply.

ORIGINAL: Fishbed




BtW GH can you please tell us about the actual means dedicated to the reinforcement of Ponape? How many Daks? No plan to send some Seabees over there to turn the place into a self-sufficient airplate asap?

ORIGINAL: Fishbed

ORIGINAL: soeren01

Can you reach Truk with some bombers ? If yes, try night attacks on his ports. With this much ships there you're bound to hit something.

You could do small unit paradrops or sub suizide landings at Kwajalein to lower his supply.

Well, it would be too easy. Remember

5. no night mission except for night fighter and Patrol boat units. Any side could convert a normal bomber unit to night bomber unit. To do so, they first have to be announced, after this, they act as night units and cannot henceforce be given day missions and cannot be converted back.

GH has to give troll a phone call everytime he wants to go have a little fun on his own

BtW GH can you please tell us about the actual means dedicated to the reinforcement of Ponape? How many Daks? No plan to send some Seabees over there to turn the place into a self-sufficient airplate asap?

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

ORIGINAL: soeren01

Can you reach Truk with some bombers ? If yes, try night attacks on his ports. With this much ships there you're bound to hit something.

You could do small unit paradrops or sub suizide landings at Kwajalein to lower his supply.

As Fishbed pointed out we have a strict HR about night bombings. I'm happy with that because i really thinks night bombings is overrated in this game and, above all, Japan has no night fighters at all...

The sub landings are forbidden by our HRs.

For what concerns the paradrop on Kwalajein: i don't think any allied commander would have sent his elite units in a suicide mission with just the pourpose of testing the enemy defences. Sencondly, i don't like this tactic, no matter if it's in the HRs or not. Third, i only have 1 Marina Para Bn at hand...it's a very usefull unit and i won't throw it into the toilet.
Kwalajein won't be assaulted for the moment. We'll let it starve and use it as a training ground for my bombers.
Our fighters will use Koumac, the base north of Noumea, which is empty[;)]