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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:36 pm
by Lowpe
What do your runways look like?

Dollars to donuts he is headed for the clear terrain island, and probably some others around it.

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:07 am
by obvert
ORIGINAL: Lowpe

What do your runways look like?

Dollars to donuts he is headed for the clear terrain island, and probably some others around it.

I've got two level 9 bases at Sapporo and Ominato. I've got some level 4-5 around Hokkaido, and Hakodate is going toward 7. Etorofu and Urruppa are 3-4. Para and Onneketon are level 3.

I'll not be hitting the DS anytime soon from LBA unless there is a serious reduction in CAP. There are other ways to skin a cat. [:)]

He may be interested in the clear hex base, which is fine since it's so close to the many big bases that it would be harder to support. Whatever happens up here, there is no way with the discrepancy in CVs between the sides to stop landings. I simply have to take a tithe for every step, make it painful, and to start doing that I need to get ships in place, subs under the DS, and prepare some nice CAP traps and other distractions. I need to chip away first, then see if I get any toys based on reinforcements or kamis.

That's the goal for today.

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:18 am
by njp72
ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

What do your runways look like?

Dollars to donuts he is headed for the clear terrain island, and probably some others around it.

I've got two level 9 bases at Sapporo and Ominato. I've got some level 4-5 around Hokkaido, and Hakodate is going toward 7. Etorofu and Urruppa are 3-4. Para and Onneketon are level 3.

I'll not be hitting the DS anytime soon from LBA unless there is a serious reduction in CAP. There are other ways to skin a cat. [:)]

He may be interested in the clear hex base, which is fine since it's so close to the many big bases that it would be harder to support. Whatever happens up here, there is no way with the discrepancy in CVs between the sides to stop landings. I simply have to take a tithe for every step, make it painful, and to start doing that I need to get ships in place, subs under the DS, and prepare some nice CAP traps and other distractions. I need to chip away first, then see if I get any toys based on reinforcements or kamis.

That's the goal for today.

Yep, you are never really going to stop an Allied invasion in mid 44. They can suffer massive losses and still at least claim a bridgehead. By this stage of the war any asset lost by the Allies (including CVs which are near impossible to sink now anyway) can be readily replaced whereas the IJN is a rapidly diminishing resource in terms of quality and quantity.

Completely agree with your strategy- really it is the only viable course of action.

The cruel slog that we know all too well (especially Lowpe and I) is about to begin but it is still fun in a twisted way.

- FYI-having a lot of success in my recent game with the recon version of the Judy as a kamikaze. The hit rate is so high I actually think there could be a bug involved but still great to see Allied ships burn [:D]

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:28 pm
by obvert
ORIGINAL: njp72

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

What do your runways look like?

Dollars to donuts he is headed for the clear terrain island, and probably some others around it.

I've got two level 9 bases at Sapporo and Ominato. I've got some level 4-5 around Hokkaido, and Hakodate is going toward 7. Etorofu and Urruppa are 3-4. Para and Onneketon are level 3.

I'll not be hitting the DS anytime soon from LBA unless there is a serious reduction in CAP. There are other ways to skin a cat. [:)]

He may be interested in the clear hex base, which is fine since it's so close to the many big bases that it would be harder to support. Whatever happens up here, there is no way with the discrepancy in CVs between the sides to stop landings. I simply have to take a tithe for every step, make it painful, and to start doing that I need to get ships in place, subs under the DS, and prepare some nice CAP traps and other distractions. I need to chip away first, then see if I get any toys based on reinforcements or kamis.

That's the goal for today.

Yep, you are never really going to stop an Allied invasion in mid 44. They can suffer massive losses and still at least claim a bridgehead. By this stage of the war any asset lost by the Allies (including CVs which are near impossible to sink now anyway) can be readily replaced whereas the IJN is a rapidly diminishing resource in terms of quality and quantity.

Completely agree with your strategy- really it is the only viable course of action.

The cruel slog that we know all too well (especially Lowpe and I) is about to begin but it is still fun in a twisted way.

- FYI-having a lot of success in my recent game with the recon version of the Judy as a kamikaze. The hit rate is so high I actually think there could be a bug involved but still great to see Allied ships burn [:D]

Interesting. The Judy-C?

I never even considered using recons as kami, and didn't know it was even possible. Have you also tried the Dinah-III? Or the NF Dinah-Kai? They're so fast that I could imagine they'd be good too, if a plane that doesn't carry a bomb can be effective! [;)]

Having been through this with Jocke I know all too well the tremendous effort it takes to keep going through the turns when the Allies are breaking down the doors in every corner. Its a grind but there are good days!

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:37 pm
by obvert
[font="Times New Roman"]June 1, 1944[/font]
I'm glad I didn't shock. The 14th tank didn't stop the Allied units from the NW moving in, and the Allies end up with 4.6k AV in hex.

The troops one hex away railing in stopped and began to unpack. Odd, since the unit railing in from Rangoon made it just fine. Hmmm.

Either way, I'll see how the next few turns go. The Allied reinforcements are the below:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]9th Australian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
5th Indian Division
72nd British Brigade[/font]

The Allies bombarded and lost a chunk of arty. So I've turned bombardments on and I'll wait for all units to get into the hex before deciding how to proceed.
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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5400 troops, 297 guns, 178 vehicles, Assault Value = 4613

Defending force 110066 troops, 1172 guns, 1328 vehicles, Assault Value = 3130

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 54 (25 destroyed, 29 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
9th Australian Division
40th Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
1st New Chinese Corps
29th British Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
81st (West African) Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
26th Indian/B Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
39th Indian Division
Americal Infantry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
14th Indian Division
193rd Tank Battalion
41st Infantry Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
5th Indian Division
754th Tank Battalion
19th Indian Division
72nd British Brigade
9th Indian Division
26th Indian/A Division
26th Indian/C Division
197th Coast AA Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
198th Field Artillery Battalion
X' Force
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st West African AA Regiment
XXXIII Corps RIASC Base Force
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
I/14th Army RIASC Base Force
205th Coast AA Regiment
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
16th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
Southeast Asia
77th Coast AA Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
175th USAAF Base Force
23rd AA Bde
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
226th Field Artillery Battalion
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
70th Coast AA Regiment
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
78th Coast AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
858th Engineer Aviation Battalion

Defending units:
18th Tank Regiment
55th Division
11th Tank Regiment
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd RTA Division
5th Division
2nd Division
1st Tank Division
14th Tank Regiment
31st Division
4th RTA Division
6th RTA Division
53rd Field AA Battalion
7th RF Gun Battalion
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
23rd AA Regiment
18th Army
52nd Field AA Battalion
60th Field AA Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
11th Air Defense AA Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
15th Const Co
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
44th Ind.AA Gun Co
3rd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd Air Defense AA Regiment
43rd Const Co
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
36th JNAF AF Unit

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:53 pm
by obvert
[font="Times New Roman"]June 1, 1944[/font]
In the North, the Allies close in and tighten up the fleets. It looks like the middle Kuriles will be the target, or they'll move past and head for Shikuka.

I set some long range and high 2E TB to just past Uruppa. This shouldn't be in range, but if anything small comes hunting, they could get em. Also, I have a few small CAP traps going, but they're probably just Fletcher bait.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:23 pm
by njp72

Interesting. The Judy-C?

I never even considered using recons as kami, and didn't know it was even possible. Have you also tried the Dinah-III? Or the NF Dinah-Kai? They're so fast that I could imagine they'd be good too, if a plane that doesn't carry a bomb can be effective! [;)]

Having been through this with Jocke I know all too well the tremendous effort it takes to keep going through the turns when the Allies are breaking down the doors in every corner. Its a grind but there are good days!
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Yes your game with Jocke was an epic one and highly enjoyable. Also provided a multitude of lessons learnt for us all especially around supply consumption.

I started off by using the Judy-C due to its great range. Only takes two hits from them to sink a Fletcher despite not having any payload. It will be interesting to hear others experience.

good luck, good hunting


RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:53 pm
by ny59giants
I’ve almost forgot what a land based Death Star looked like. That is a huge stack at Prome.[X(] [X(]

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:42 pm
by Lokasenna
Do you have any notion how much of that 4.6K AV is fresh?

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:20 am
by obvert
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Do you have any notion how much of that 4.6K AV is fresh?

The units I listed above. Here they are again.

The Allied reinforcements that were not in the last combat are the below:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]9th Australian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
5th Indian Division
72nd British Brigade[/font]

So about 1800-1900 of the AV total.

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:53 pm
by Lokasenna
Ah, I missed that. So a substantial portion, then.

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:39 am
by Lowpe
Good call at Prome.

My thoughts now would be to think about pulling back into the jungle, once Prome cannot be defended by air anymore. Otherwise it is a great attrition base. And of course I would always be worried about a landing...but with the Kuriles in play that is certainly not likely.

I had to go back a page to find a map of Burma, and you didn't press W (for shame), but it also seems like there is at least one Chinese unit heading deeper east into China. I would be cautious about Chinese infiltrating the mountains aiming SE to the coast and Vietnam.

Looks like the invasion has veered to the north and will target the Kuriles, the safer play, rather than Hokkaido. Probably a mistake on CR's part, as it guarantees a longer tougher fight -- it certainly will define the game.

Kuriles, then in sixty days another big invasion invasion...it seems to me you are in pretty decent position for having lost carriers on day 2. Most likely you will keep oil/fuel shipments to the HI for the the bulk of the game.

Nicely played.[:)]

Given the date, you are in great shape here.

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:16 pm
by obvert
ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Good call at Prome.

My thoughts now would be to think about pulling back into the jungle, once Prome cannot be defended by air anymore. Otherwise it is a great attrition base. And of course I would always be worried about a landing...but with the Kuriles in play that is certainly not likely.

I had to go back a page to find a map of Burma, and you didn't press W (for shame), but it also seems like there is at least one Chinese unit heading deeper east into China. I would be cautious about Chinese infiltrating the mountains aiming SE to the coast and Vietnam.

Looks like the invasion has veered to the north and will target the Kuriles, the safer play, rather than Hokkaido. Probably a mistake on CR's part, as it guarantees a longer tougher fight -- it certainly will define the game.

Kuriles, then in sixty days another big invasion invasion...it seems to me you are in pretty decent position for having lost carriers on day 2. Most likely you will keep oil/fuel shipments to the HI for the the bulk of the game.

Nicely played.[:)]

Given the date, you are in great shape here.

I'll update more soon.

There is a move into China. It's mainly through the direct mountains, and not toward Into-China. There is one unit walking down the road toward Chang Mai, but I have 3-4 weeks to deal with that.

I've got tabs on all the units coming to China and I've moved an ID onto every river crossing hex I could get to in time that is also on a road. The road to Paoshan is a big IJA parking lot, with an ID/hex. The Chinese don't like forts, x3 defensive terrain or tanks. a few tank regiments are on the way. [:)]

It's funny that I want him to strike Prome from the air! I would never have thought that, but Allied losses to flak have been around 20% at Prome, and for little effect. Lots of radar and 12cm guns.

I do have to watch out, and the manoeuvre battle is just beginning. I'll hold until my Taung Gui units arrive back near Toungou, then make a call on how long to stay put. Prome has served it's purpose, as has Burma in general. It's tied up a massive Allied army away from oil or infrastructure until mid-44, so I can now make some other plans.

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:50 am
by PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Given the date, you are in great shape here.
+1

Yeah, June 44 and the allies are just starting something, but not going for the jugular (Hokkaido) ...
you should be able to tie up key allied assets in the Kuriles for the next 18 months ...
15 months prep time for the SOV ...

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:14 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Given the date, you are in great shape here.
+1

Yeah, June 44 and the allies are just starting something, but not going for the jugular (Hokkaido) ...
you should be able to tie up key allied assets in the Kuriles for the next 18 months ...
15 months prep time for the SOV ...

Or...

Is the Kuriles a move to tie up key Japanese assets for the next 18 months?

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:39 pm
by obvert
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Given the date, you are in great shape here.
+1

Yeah, June 44 and the allies are just starting something, but not going for the jugular (Hokkaido) ...
you should be able to tie up key allied assets in the Kuriles for the next 18 months ...
15 months prep time for the SOV ...

Or...

Is the Kuriles a move to tie up key Japanese assets for the next 18 months?

If my assets are tied up for 18 months that's 6 months longer than I've played the game yet! [:D]


RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:58 pm
by obvert
[font="Times New Roman"]June 2, 1944[/font]
So no landings yet on the 2nd. The Allies move slowly North. A small TF unloading supply is defended well at Etorofu, downing about 25+ Hellcats and some Avengers.

In Burma some small air skirmishes. The defenders go high today, diving on Corsairs to gain a small advantage on the day, which is nice, and should at least make him reconsider settings.

Bombardments at Prome are about equal, which means no way I'm doing anything there for a while.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 2, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 85

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 17
F4U-1A Corsair x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Corsair II sweeping at 30000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 77

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Uruppu-jima at 130,52

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 7
A6M5b Zero x 19
J2M3 Jack x 16
N1K2-J George x 32
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 28

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 17 destroyed


Japanese Ships
xAK Tuyama Maru
LST T-116, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Avenger II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo

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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 82256 troops, 797 guns, 825 vehicles, Assault Value = 3620

Defending force 263069 troops, 4178 guns, 4367 vehicles, Assault Value = 4747

Japanese ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (6 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Assaulting units:
1st Tank Division
18th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
3rd RTA Division
14th Tank Regiment
14th Division
5th Division
2nd Division
4th RTA Division
55th Division
31st Division
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
6th RTA Division
11th Air Defense AA Regiment
52nd Field AA Battalion
43rd Const Co
18th Army
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th RF Gun Battalion
23rd AA Regiment
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
5th Mortar Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
60th Field AA Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
53rd Field AA Battalion
2nd Air Defense AA Regiment
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
15th Const Co
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
44th Ind.AA Gun Co
51st Field AA Battalion
3rd Ind.AA Gun Co
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
36th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
3rd Cavalry Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
29th British Brigade
40th Infantry Division
72nd British Brigade
14th Army Engineer Battalion
39th Indian Division
26th Indian/B Division
14th Indian Division
26th Indian/A Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
41st Infantry Division
19th Indian Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
23rd Indian Division
193rd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
5th Indian Division
9th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
27th Infantry Division
9th Australian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
754th Tank Battalion
81st (West African) Division
26th Indian/C Division
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1st West African AA Regiment
205th Coast AA Regiment
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
198th Field Artillery Battalion
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
I/14th Army RIASC Base Force
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
197th Coast AA Regiment
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
77th Coast AA Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
X' Force
226th Field Artillery Battalion
XXXIII Indian Corps
16th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
23rd AA Bde
85th British AT Gun Regiment
175th USAAF Base Force
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
70th Coast AA Regiment
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
XXXIII Corps RIASC Base Force
78th Coast AA Regiment
Southeast Asia
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
IV Indian Corps
858th Engineer Aviation Battalion

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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5268 troops, 278 guns, 176 vehicles, Assault Value = 4723

Defending force 125682 troops, 1290 guns, 1398 vehicles, Assault Value = 3609

Japanese ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:39 pm
by obvert
[font="Times New Roman"]June 3, 1944[/font]
The Allied fleet inches North. It's increasingly looking like he's either just baiting me or heading for Shikuka. I have always thought the latter would be a prime target. It's unfortunately almost but not quite level 7 forts, but only just about 2 divisions. I think the Allies will bring everything, so nothing anywhere right now will be enough. If he does land there it is interesting though, since that leaves some opportunity on his LOC flank through the Kuriles. I'll begin sending more our there as I can, and I've already tried to beef up Toyohara, but it may be too late to get it together since forts are only just below level 5.

Peggys announce their presence by hitting a gaggle of leading YMS.

In Burma the Allies have a very bad bombardment. Lots of guns wiped out, which is nice. for the Commonwealth troops sometimes this becomes final since reinforcements are not plentiful.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 3, 1944
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ASW attack near Ketoi-jima at 133,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, hits 12, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Colahan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Chester
CA Houston
CLAA Reno
DD Halligan
DD Hailey
DD Heermann
DD Healy
DD Haraden

SS I-159 launches 8 torpedoes at DD Colahan
I-159 diving deep ....

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 127,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 49
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
YMS-128, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
YMS-393, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
YMS-221, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 127,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 49
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
YMS-343, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
YMS-273, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

YMS-275

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5292 troops, 277 guns, 176 vehicles, Assault Value = 4831

Defending force 139053 troops, 1423 guns, 2145 vehicles, Assault Value = 4051

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 48 (39 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Assaulting units:
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
255th Indian Tank Brigade
14th Army Engineer Battalion
41st Infantry Division
9th Australian Division
19th Indian Division
9th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
193rd Tank Battalion
14th Indian Division
Americal Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
26th Indian/B Division
29th British Brigade
39th Indian Division
72nd British Brigade
5th Indian Division
754th Tank Battalion
23rd Indian Division
81st (West African) Division
26th Indian/A Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st New Chinese Corps
26th Indian/C Division
70th Coast AA Regiment
205th Coast AA Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
175th USAAF Base Force
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
1st West African AA Regiment
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
16th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Southeast Asia
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
23rd AA Bde
85th British AT Gun Regiment
IV Indian Corps
X' Force
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
226th Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
78th Coast AA Regiment
I/14th Army RIASC Base Force
208th Coast AA Regiment
77th Coast AA Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
XXXIII Corps RIASC Base Force
198th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
197th Coast AA Regiment
858th Engineer Aviation Battalion

Defending units:
2nd Tank Division
5th Division
11th Tank Regiment
4th RTA Division
1st Tank Division
14th Division
3rd RTA Division
18th Tank Regiment
31st Division
55th Division
2nd Division
14th Tank Regiment
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
6th RTA Division
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
53rd Field AA Battalion
18th Army
44th Ind.AA Gun Co
11th Air Defense AA Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Const Co
2nd Air Defense AA Regiment
43rd Const Co
52nd Field AA Battalion
3rd Ind.AA Gun Co
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
23rd AA Regiment
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
60th Field AA Battalion
7th RF Gun Battalion
36th JNAF AF Unit

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:58 pm
by Lowpe
The 36K Peggy strike....that will really cause a little rejiggering of the altitudes of the deathstar CAP I bet. [;)]

RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:31 pm
by Lecivius
Angels 36, and they made a torpedo attack? AND 22 of them hit something as small as a yard ship...6 times?!? A 30% hit rate was simply unheard of, even by KB's best, against capital ships. Against yard boats [X(][:-]