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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

I'm guessing the Garrison Theater Box will resemble the garrison requirements that are currently present in WitW?

Not really like WitW - it is even simpler as the units are moved off map to a Garrison Box where you need sufficient CV to suppress partisan activity.

ORIGINAL: daretti

Will it be possible to fight also on the Western Front?

ORIGINAL: daretti

that is, you will not be able to fight directly but you can decide which units to come east from west or send back to the west?

ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

ORIGINAL: daretti

that is, you will not be able to fight directly but you can decide which units to come east from west or send back to the west?

Yes - and the events system links to this too - so when an event like D-Day happens the factors in the Western Front Box change and you'll need either to react accordingly or accept the price of not doing so.

ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Lack of required troops can cause loss of VPs, loss of Admin points, and/or speed up in future events in the same theater. Events can change level of combat in a Theater Box (TB), which impacts losses to the units in that TB. So if you don't garrison Western Europe adequately, D-Day will likely come sooner, and once D-day happens, combat and losses dramatically increase. Similar things going on in Italy and North Africa. We expect to have 2 ways to play the game, one where TBs are not under player control and movement of units between fronts is also not under player control. The other where players have limited control (limited in that you can't transfer units out if you fall under a minimum in the TB, and it will cost some APs to change a unit's transfer schedule). Still in alpha so still working on a lot of the details, but that's the basic outline.

PS: have you though of a way to avoid the Axis player of for example: striping all Mountain units from other theaters in exchange for Infantry divisions?

I heard that in WITW, most Axis player would get the Mountain divisions station in the Balkans Theater box (and maybe remove most from the Eastern front?) to get a great advantage in Italy.

ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

PS: have you though of a way to avoid the Axis player of for example: striping all Mountain units from other theaters in exchange for Infantry divisions?

I heard that in WITW, most Axis player would get the Mountain divisions station in the Balkans Theater box (and maybe remove most from the Eastern front?) to get a great advantage in Italy.

Is this gamey? What's wrong with using the best troops in the right place?

ORIGINAL: Skydream2016

I think it s gamey because if game didnt simulate whole Europe you will take best unit to your possesion but if game simulate it like in HOI i dont belive you will not distribute it more like orginal OKW did. so if you are in charge in Italy every mountain unit will be in italy if you are in soviet union every mountain will be on eastern front beacause you know bonus is aplied only with speccific terrain or weather but for side fronts its aplied only basic CV or i am not right?
Its also not realistic because there was some rivaliry between theaters and it was almost impossible to have all elite unit stacioned under one specific theatre.

But in real world i think it can be tragic for germans if they dont have mountain units for example in Yougoslavia, Arctic front or in Italy..

ORIGINAL: TheLysander

ORIGINAL: Skydream2016

I think it s gamey because if game didnt simulate whole Europe you will take best unit to your possesion but if game simulate it like in HOI i dont belive you will not distribute it more like orginal OKW did. so if you are in charge in Italy every mountain unit will be in italy if you are in soviet union every mountain will be on eastern front beacause you know bonus is aplied only with speccific terrain or weather but for side fronts its aplied only basic CV or i am not right?
Its also not realistic because there was some rivaliry between theaters and it was almost impossible to have all elite unit stacioned under one specific theatre.

But in real world i think it can be tragic for germans if they dont have mountain units for example in Yougoslavia, Arctic front or in Italy..

I suppose that is a fair enough statement. However you need to think of it from the dev's point of view, how do you balance that then? You could limit the number of mountain divisions in a certain theatre, yet then you would also have to limit other units to avoid stacking using the same logic...

I believe that its not necessarily gamey, its a player who is acting as OKW using the best resources he has available for a given theater and seeing as how he also knows that the ET will not be won and that in 43 there isn't much need for specialised mountain warfare why not bring over the mountain divisions and put them in their optimal combat environment?