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Is there a reason to have troops up by Tallinn? They are going to be cut off.

Terje

There remains an heroic quality to your failures which makes your AAR complusory and compulsive reading. You perhaps have something of Mr Macawber in you

For those readers not familiar with Dickens, Mr M sailed through all of life's disasters with a stubborn belief that something would eventually turn up.

It did in the end. If life follows art I look forward to tales of Terje's victory in WiTE 2.

Yikes! The German held territory is alarmingly small.

Don't forget sea movement.

Dear God this is Feb42'.......[X(] this is bad.....i know bad and trust me this is it.

ORIGINAL: AFV

Is there a reason to have troops up by Tallinn? They are going to be cut off.

Nah, the USSR push in the north is not strong enough. Should be able to hold untill spring.


Terje

ORIGINAL: sillyflower

Terje

There remains an heroic quality to your failures which makes your AAR complusory and compulsive reading. You perhaps have something of Mr Macawber in you

For those readers not familiar with Dickens, Mr M sailed through all of life's disasters with a stubborn belief that something would eventually turn up.

It did in the end. If life follows art I look forward to tales of Terje's victory in WiTE 2.

Heroic I do not know, failures, absolutely [:D]
Hehe the difference between me and Mr Macawber is that I know that there is no silver lining anywhere, I am just plain old stubborn [:D]


Terje

ORIGINAL: randallw

Yikes! The German held territory is alarmingly small.

Nah, it is close to non-existent [:D]



Terje

ORIGINAL: Farfarer

Don't forget sea movement.

In what aspect? In an USSR amph assault?


Terje

ORIGINAL: Tophat1812

Dear God this is Feb42'.......[X(] this is bad.....i know bad and trust me this is it.

Haha I know bad as well, and I kinda expected this turnout, although I had hoped it would not be for another 18 months [:D]

All there is to say is that I am outplayed in every aspect, and I respect that. All I will have to do now is take whatever comes my way and order another two million digital men to their deaths [:D]


Terje

Turn 38

Overall
Seems the USSR juggernaught is running out of steam. Number of attacks is halved, and they do not really take much ground. We nevertheless abandon some hexes to avoid any chance of losing even more units. In the south we are rushing some LW regiments to help out, although we have reestablished a frontline there now. The USSR launch 34 attacks, scoring 3 held, 23 retreats, 7 routs and 1 shatter. We only make two attacks, scoring 2 retreats.
Since people are shocked by the Axis-held territory, this turn we present a map to really show the dire situation.

Losses
USSR : 77.000 troops, 551 guns, 139 AFVs, 147 AC.
Axis : 63.000 troops, 546 guns, 17 AFVs, 8 AC.

Units Lost
The 5th Rumanian Cavalry Division shatters.

Units destroyed
The USSR 45th Sapper Regiment is destroyed during combat.

Pools
Manpower : 80.089
Vehicle : 145.862
Armaments : 198.491
Hiwi : 0

Pest control
4 partisans are hunted down this turn.

If I can offer some advice for the 1942 campaign - I think it is really important that you do not go on the defensive, and that you rebuild your and your troops morale by making "grinding" deliberate infantry attacks with mechanised units in offensive reserve that have high odds and good chance of success. I think you could grind your way to the Pskov/Vitebsk/Dneiper river line, getting your infantry morale up to the mid-70s, where you could dig in to give yourself a reasonable chance to hold him in 1943, using the reserve activation tactics outlined in Pelton's 8421 AAR. All is not lost and you can still hold Berlin at the end of the game, which would count as a major victory from this situation.

What an interesting AAR, thanks Terje! It really seems you got behind the eightball early on in hurting the Russian enough and it has simply snowballed from there. I'm not sure I agree with BigAnorak's take on '42, this game's balance goes from one extreme to the other with very, very little in between and once the tipping point has been reached it is basically finished. However, I am curious what happens if you continue to play on.

anorak is right im the living shining example,he did an excellent job with the germans,i made way less mistakes then with tarhunnas and i still lost moscou leningrad stalingrad,he didnt make huge superpockets not even in 42
but still theres no holding it,i carpetted the whole dam place(which i think is ridiculous but ok),the only mistake i maybe made is that i gave up ground to fast.....but tbh thats what every commander would do ,if your threatened to closed in with 1000000 men,i tried with tarhunnas the offensive aproach (we saw how that went),so your forced to let a few hundreds thousands to be closed in to stall him and i simply refuse to do that ,but the game punishes that with giving the germans amazing supply :p,and till 43 you dont have the forces for that,so basically till 43 you have a VERY good chance to achieve all you want  in the game if you find the cracks to go though,i will take a rest from the game because it nerves me to much,the game suply system should be mechanized automatically with depots that needs to be build and can be broken down or destroyed,i read a book once about the ardennesoffensive where the german panzers got stalled after some km simply because  they ran out of fuell,in WiTe they NEVER seem to run out of it ,they keep going and going and going ,and if they dont have railway the just deliver tons and tons with the airforce,and we all know how good the russian airforce is in the game

BigAnorak's approach is making rethink the game.  I've felt that encirclements and cities have to be the 41 goals.  Push and expand at suicidal paces.  Now, I'm starting to think that preserving the German army, attacking with favorable odds and loss ratios and being opportunistic with the panzers is the way to go.  It's not quite as exciting but it prepares better for the blizzard and can still achieve dramatic results in 42 against any type of defense.  The beauty of this approach is if the Soviet stacks EVERYTHING on the front lines (to prevent favorable odds), the tactics can immediately change over to the standard punch holes and encircle. 

I wish I had done this in my game against Viktor.  It's so compelling that I'm considering a pullback to straighten lines (they are totally stretched right now), prepare for blizzard and starting the grind approach in 42. 

yea its pretty ironic,conserve your forces from 41 to 42 so then you can actually attack against a russian army thats Bigger but still weak and you can still achieve what you want,while it should be the other way around.....,but its a liable tactic but not really how it should be

Will make a reply to you all in one post [:)]


Well I think you are all right, however I also think that I did not bag enough USSR troops in this game for it to be winnable. And nah, I will not go on the defensive, but I think I will need to rethink the use of my minors, and keep some of them behind the front and do nothing but some digging. Right now my main concern is the low level of TOE in my units.

Sorry got to go, clan wars in world of tanks and I am badly needed.

More later.

Terje

I commend you on continuing your game Terje, I didn't quite reach the timeline you did with my Sillyflower game but I couldn't stomach the tromping I got from a well played game by Sillyflower [:(]  I shall be watching your AAR, thanks for posting.

ORIGINAL: terje439
Sorry got to go, clan wars in world of tanks and I am badly needed.

What do you run with in clan wars?

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

ORIGINAL: terje439
Sorry got to go, clan wars in world of tanks and I am badly needed.

What do you run with in clan wars?

Depends on the map, Maus/E100/T54/GW TypE/IS7 are the most used.
(Yes I've played alot [:D])


Terje