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ORIGINAL: fogger
Larry, what are play testing in the development forum.

Steve Sill has developed, built, and tested a scenario that is the TOAW equivalent of War in the West called
D-Day to the Elbe and he wanted an independent playtest of it and THAT's what I'm playtesting right now. This is my third time
through the scenario and Steve is making changes to make it "play right" and it's getting closer and closer to "just right" all the time.
It's an Allied against the German PO only kind of scenario so we only have to playtest the Allied side. So far. It CAN be played by two
players, one of whom is playing the German side, and that's probably the most funnest way to play ( PBEM ). I'm pretty enthralled by
the scenario and I consider it one of the greats. Unfortunately it only runs under 3.5 since it has so many events ( more than 3.4 can
handle ). Steve and I are hoping the scenario can be released when 3.5 is released, if and when THAT ever happens.

Larry, does that mean you have a test / developmental copy of 3.5? [X(] or is this a question I should not ask? [:-]

ORIGINAL: fogger
Larry, does that mean you have a test / developmental copy of 3.5? [X(] or is this a question I should not ask? [:-]

Ask away my friend Fogger dude. Yes, as a matter of fact I DO have a copy of 3.5 and I'm using it to playtest the new scenario
D-Day to the Elbe which is the TOAW equivalent of War in the West. We're making it "play right" currently. And every
once in a while I'll find something that needs some attention and Steve Sill will change the scenario and I'll have to start over w/ my
playtest. I'm retired and don't watch TV anymore so I have plenty of time to test stuff. I don't know if or when 3.5 will be released
to the public.........I'm as much in the dark as anybody else reguarding that. Keep those good questions coming.

Larry my old mate and good buddy [:D][;)],
You have me salivating.[:'(] Please tell more about 3.5. I know that you have no idea when it will be released but how close do you think it is to being finished? (percentage wise) What can you tell us about it?

By the way I am your long lost son, the one you never knew about [:D]. So if a copy should fall of the back of a truck, please send the truck my way[;)]
cheers
John

In my opinion 3.5 is a major update. There's actually a document ( multipage ) that describes the changes and additions and it's
actually pretty massive. I'm not sure what I'm allowed to say about it ( NDA don't you know ) so I'm going to keep my mouth shut
and really I don't know a better way to find out than by asking "Curtis Lemay" ( real name Bob ). I'd really really like to know what he
says. There are development groups on other projects for Matrix Games that have an open developers diary and open AAR's and
I'd really like us to do the same. Input from the actual people that are going to use it is invaluable.

Steve Sill says he doesn't want to flaunt his scenario in public and I agree. I have no desire to make anybody mad or frustrated and
I wish we could all be playtesters so we could all have a copy of 3.5 and give Steve's scenario a really good workout. Unfortunately,
D-Day to the Elbe only runs under 3.5 because of the number of events and the size of the map and it is planned that it will be
released when 3.5 is released. That's my understanding and now you know almost as much as I do. Really.

So my advice is to ask about it by posting your question and I'd really like to know what he says too.

So um........most of you already know that I've modded the classic scenario Barbarosa 41 so that the supply situation is better
and I'm curious to know if I've "broken" the scenario so that it's no longer balanced. My first run through the scenario proved that the
Axis supply level was too high so I've bumped it down by half and I extended the Soviet supply radius to 15 and I'm hoping that the
scenario still plays well. ( I'll have to playtest this thing from the Soviet side to just to make sure.) I'll be using these game options:

EDIT: I'll be using TOAW 3.4.0.202

Here's what I'm planning on trying to do

Here's the movements of the 1st Division elements:

Here's the movements of the elements of the 38th Division

Elements of the 26th Division are set to attack the surrounded German units.

Here's the movements of elements of the 41st Division:

Here's the movements of elements of the 56th Panzer Division:

Here's the movements of elements of the 2nd Division:

Here's the movements of elements of the 28th Division

Here's the movements of elements of the 39th Division:

Here's movement of the elements of the 57th Division:

Here's the movements of the elements of the 5th Division:

Here's the movements of elements of the 6th Division:

Here's the movement of elements of the 20th Division:

Here's the movement of elements of the 7th and 9th Divisions: