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Hey..., I've got a really radical idea.....Why don't we assume that the guys at 2by3 don't all have
their heads up their butts and chose the price based on trying to get a rational return on their
investment of time and effort?....Like breaking even..., because I will bet you that none of them
are getting rich on WITP.

Your making an important assumption that bad pricing strategy is because of a fundamental problem "heads up thier butts" on the part of the person setting the strategy. In my personal experience which includes working with the guy who wrote the book on pricing strategy (google Nagle and pricing if your curious) this is never the case.

Usually its a question of knowledge and time. Most people don't know much about pricing strategy because most people don't make pricing desicions that often. Usually pricing decisions at smaller companies are made at launch and seldom revisited. There are simply too many more pressing issues to deal with. Also if your faced with many critical decisions about other aspects of you business and a few times a year decision about pricing what would you spend your time studying? A smart executive would not spend time on pricing because other things are more pressing and occur much more often.

The other thing to remember is that pricing strategy is seldom bad, its usually just sub optimal. Its very hard to tell if your pricing strategy is sub optimal and its hard to fix if it is.

I don't assume that the folks at Matrix have thier heads up thier butts, or are foolish in any way. But I do assume that they face many of the same pressures that other small and meduim size companies face and a less than optimal pricing strategy is often a result of dealing with those pressures.

(disclaimer I do not currently work with Dr. Tom Nagle but I have in the past and learned a lot from him)

Intelligence, Reality, and Common Sense have no place in this forum

Actually, it is the only thing that keeps us from killing each other like that which happens in pretty much every other forum I've ever seen. [;)]

I thought the fact we all live hundreds of miles from each other was the only thing that did that. [:D]

I thought the fact we all live hundreds of miles from each other was the only thing that did that.

Naw, Ron is within driving distance of here [:D]

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

I thought the fact we all live hundreds of miles from each other was the only thing that did that. [:D]

Ahhh Tankerace, you seem to be mired in the 1920's, a few hundred miles is no trouble when you have ICBM's. [:D]

Yes....but Matrix doesn't want us killing off millions of potential customers, its bad for business [:D]

they face many of the same pressures that other small and meduim size companies face and a less than optimal pricing strategy is often a result of dealing with those pressures.

Tom you made a good point.

Since we can't control what Matrix does I can only hope they make the best choices for their finacial success. And they, can always read these posts ( they often do come in to get a feel of things) to help them reinforce impotant decisions to be made. Forums are one way for them to keep their finger on the pulse of things. I'm sure they appreciate the contributions.

From watching the company grow that I work for it took and is still taking time to get all things in shape (trim the fat, ditribute enogh resources to each department ect.). It's a real balancing act and a real challenge. I would like to offer Matrix my words of encouragement as they try realize their goals. By so doing i believe I will be rewarded with many of enjoyable hours of game play.

ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain

ORIGINAL: marky

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Yea, a good starting time commitment is two weeks, anything less then that and you'll just end up deleting it.

This game requires commitment, a lot of us should be committed [:D]

hahaha

[:D]


my mom said i was crazy

or she said-

~all u do is sit at ur computer and play games~

~thats crazy~

im thinkin, if im crazy for playing great games all day and half the night, then the world has lost the definition of crazy, or its just become blurred!

whos with me?[:D][:D][:D][8D][8D][8D]

Hummm Your mother should be quite glad your sitting playing a computer game then out doing who knows what [:D]

lol

exactly

and so should my gf

she needs only look to the computer to see where i m[:D]

i also now have WITP

i m not the 1 who paid for it as i dont have the means, so my mother paid for it LOLZ

the reason i couldnt get it is i had to convince her, weve all had to convince them at 1 time or another to buy us suimthing am i right?

anyway, by steady attrition and bugging her i finnaly got her to buy it, also i did a bit of cleaning[:D]

price paid?

waiting and waiting and waiting + circa $93.00

i got the download and phys shipment on 2 day shipping

was it worth it?

YES[:D]

Now spend your extra time paying attention in writing class![:D]

Or should I say, printing class?[:D]

ORIGINAL: Halsey

Now spend your extra time paying attention in writing class![:D]

Or should I say, printing class?[:D]

i am completely free

IE

no scool, no job = yet

so i have all the time in the world to play WITP[:D]

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

Your loss.

Buy UV for a small taste of WITP. There is your demo.

i totally agree 2ndACR

WITP is a great game and well worth the investment

guys, if u want a demo, play UV as suggested, theyere very similar except in size

So your mom is now supporting a WITP bum? You'll never go look for a job now![:D]

Once you try it (bugs and all) you'll never go back.

ORIGINAL: Halsey

So your mom is now supporting a WITP bum? You'll never go look for a job now![:D]

Once you try it (bugs and all) you'll never go back.

lolz
nah

im just on vacation after finishing HS = LONG dam story

eventually, maybe a few months from now ill start a job and sumwhere along the line ill get into a career

i wonder if playing games all day counts....

A level 31 Paladin looks good on the resume. Maybe CinC of the Pacific will too![:D]

yep

being in the navy looks very good too

and since im currently CincPac....

ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi, It is the kind of game where if you know it exists and your not standing on your head to get it then I don't know. If you don't think about your computer games when your not actually playing them then I don't know.
If you don't know what a grognard is then I don't know.
How's that old saying go? "If I have to explain it then you won't understand"

The foks that love WITP are the same ones that before it was made wished it would be made.

I reading this thread for the first time, this is the best quote. I love WWII and really love the naval war in the Pacific. I was looking for a game like this for a year when I got my first computer after college and I found UV and moved on to this. I know people complain about every thing and not everyone is going to be happy, but think if this game was not made, what would you play dealing with this subject?

The funny thing is most people I know who complain about prices of stuff like this are the ones who go out and spend 40 dollars a night at a bar 5 nights a week and complain about how they have no money.

ORIGINAL: marky
no scool

Sez it all.

ORIGINAL: pasternakski

ORIGINAL: marky
no scool

Sez it all.

Want fries with that,mister?[;)]
(I think somebodies' pulling our legs.)

I doubt it. You know how those "cheeseheads " are![:D]