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RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:43 pm
by Macclan5
ORIGINAL: Aurorus
If the allies advance along multiple fronts, or along a broad front, i.e. such as the whole DEI, the Japanese must try to counterattack. I am not sure about a "Kentai Kessen," after early 43, but a counterattack of significant intensity. ...
If the allies try to come at Japan from only 1 avenue of attack, however, I do not think a large-scale couter-offensive is necessary.
Fair enough - great points.
I cannot actually say I have read an AAR where the Allies are limited to one corridor or even a narrow one; most everything I have followed has broad and multiple avenues of attack.
Disclaimer... I have only been around here a little over a year so I am only slightly more than a rookie.
But even on a broad basis advance I think this game has taught me a higher appreciation of the Kentail Kessen strategy / school of thought.
I was frankly very dismissive of Japanese Strategy as an amateur historian; now when I see recreated and personally recreate the situation I understand the sheer despair when your intelligence and estimates demonstrate that:
1) this time the Allies brought 4 Inf Divisions support and supply in 60 Ships and 10 Carriers
2) Next time they will bring even more...
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:45 pm
by Macclan5
ORIGINAL: apbarog
Macclan5, funny you should mention the right flank. Over time, I've watched a drawdown at Sorong. I have a task force headed that way now. I also have some paras prepped for the dot base that is adjacent. I will be attempting this without air cover. I know that Sorong's airfield is damaged, and has been for awhile. There is a nearby size 2 airfield on the east coast. A bit of a risk. This whole area has been quiet. I'm wearing down the enemy at Boela, slowly.
Taking Sorong will solidify the right flank, and make it possible to move to the east side of Mindanao, or towards Babeldaop. If I choose.
Hanging in on your every tactic [8D]
Your AAR is most informative, interesting... I really enjoy that I am able to put myself in your shoes and say...Hmmmm I bet he is doing X next [:D]
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:11 pm
by Aurorus
ORIGINAL: Macclan5
ORIGINAL: Aurorus
If the allies advance along multiple fronts, or along a broad front, i.e. such as the whole DEI, the Japanese must try to counterattack. I am not sure about a "Kentai Kessen," after early 43, but a counterattack of significant intensity. ...
If the allies try to come at Japan from only 1 avenue of attack, however, I do not think a large-scale couter-offensive is necessary.
Fair enough - great points.
I cannot actually say I have read an AAR where the Allies are limited to one corridor or even a narrow one; most everything I have followed has broad and multiple avenues of attack.
Disclaimer... I have only been around here a little over a year so I am only slightly more than a rookie.
But even on a broad basis advance I think this game has taught me a higher appreciation of the Kentail Kessen strategy / school of thought.
I was frankly very dismissive of Japanese Strategy as an amateur historian; now when I see recreated and personally recreate the situation I understand the sheer despair when your intelligence and estimates demonstrate that:
1) this time the Allies brought 4 Inf Divisions support and supply in 60 Ships and 10 Carriers
2) Next time they will bring even more...
The strategy was based upon Mahan's study of naval warfare. Mahan was the primary strategist of naval warfare for the 19th and 20th centuries: the naval Clausewitz. Whereas land warfare can often be a game of manuever and attrition, the same tactics that work in a land war are not as effective in a naval war. Destroying large numbers of naval assets quickly has always been the key to winning a naval war, since the time of the Roman-Carthaginian conflict. Rome simply does not win that conflict without a "Kentai Kessen:" two Kentai Kessens, in fact (one of which destroyed the Roman navy as well). The reason that the great battle is so important in naval conflict is that new fleets cannot be raised quickly like new armies. The ability to "follow up" a large naval victory is much greater because the victor has more time to exploit the victory. Also, because naval conflict is not centered on lines and is more fluid than land conflict, rear areas have never been secure while the enemy possesses any type of fleet. So the complete and immediate destruction of the enemy fleet is the key to all naval strategy. This was Mahan's theory, and there is much to it.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:28 pm
by apbarog
11 Oct 43
Most troops have already landed at Dadjangas. Some continue to land today, along with supply.
Sub Seadragon fires 2 torpedoes at big tanker TK Gen'yo Maru near Cam Ranh Bay, but misses. Sub Hake fires 2 torpedoes at big tanker Huzisan Maru near Cam Ranh Bay, but misses. Bad luck today.
Troops start to land at Cotabato. No interference here either. All that is here is I/81st Naval Guard Unit. Cotabato will be taken today by the 18th British Division, along with armor, engineers, AA, and XIV US Corps. A followup division will land in a couple of days, prepped for Cagayan. Carriers continue to cover Cotabato and Dadjangas.
11 P-38s sweep Cagayan, downing a few planes and losing a couple. Another 22 P-38s sweep, doing about the same. 5 B-17s then bomb Cagayan's airfield, doing almost no damage but destroying a couple of planes on the ground. 8 B-24s bomb, doing moderate damage and destroying about 5 planes on the ground. Finally, 34 carrier Hellcats sweep, downing about 10 planes for no loss. Nice to come in last, especially after the bombers.
Sorong is invaded. The landing occurs near the end of the day, so little is unloaded on day one. No APAs are being used here, just the standard xAPs. No interference today. Hope that continues, as there's no friendly CAP here.
I note that 143 bombers are spotted at Manila.
No turn from Walker until Wednesday at the earliest. I've plotted my normal work on the turn, but am holding the turn until Tuesday. I'll work on pilot training and other miscellaneous planning between now and Tuesday.

RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:32 am
by apbarog
12 Oct 43
Landing continues at Sorong. No interference. A couple of LSTs take some minor damage on the rocks. Using xAPs here, there's still troops to unload.
Landing also continues at Cotabato.
Near Taihoku, just to the northeast of Formosa, in the one shallow hex by itself, sub Tuna gets pounded by E boats, taking 2 depth charge hits and one mortar hit. Damage is just moderate though, and the sub should make it home.
Near Swatow, sub Sturgeon finds a big tanker convoy, and gets a torpedo hit on TK Tokuhei Maru. It's carrying oil and burning nicely now.
35 carrier Hellcats sweep Cagayan, and find a weaker CAP than recently spotted there. About 24 Zeros and 12 Oscars. Lots of enemy destroyed for little loss. Each day I've used a different rested fighter squadron for a sweep. While the enemy is attrited and tired, I bring fresh fighters. 8 B24s then bomb, doing light damage. Then 16 P-38s sweep, but get no result.
At Sorong, the 16th LRP Bde has mostly unloaded, but could use a day's rest to prepare, so no attack today. The attack at Sansapor, the adjacent dot base, turned out to be interesting when my paras dropped in. There was something there, which was unexpected.
Ground combat at Sansapor (83,107)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 278 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19
Defending force 249 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15
Allied adjusted assault: 16
Japanese adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Sansapor !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)
Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1
Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /1
Defending units:
I/84th Naval Guard Unit
The enemy was penalized for op mode. Did the unit just arrive? Or was it forgotten long ago? I'll never know. Regardless, the base is taken.
Cotabato is easily taken, destroying the tiny naval guard unit there. Troops head toward Cagayan.
And in the hex west of Malang, the Allies are successful. Malang is now isolated.
Ground combat at 54,105 (near Madioen)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 13496 troops, 120 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 561
Defending force 8030 troops, 61 guns, 31 vehicles, Assault Value = 83
Allied adjusted assault: 233
Japanese adjusted defense: 53
Allied assault odds: 4 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
2832 casualties reported
Squads: 85 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 121 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 17 (13 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 24 (22 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 4
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
17th Indian Division
Defending units:
38th Division
8th Tank Regiment
Southwest Area Fleet
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
Units here will use the roads to move west, so they need to move back north first. No point in chasing the enemy through the bad terrain.
US carriers will move near Zamboanga, where invasion shipping is gathering. The next set of invasions is imminent.

RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:33 am
by Aurorus
I'm surprised at the lack of a defense on Mindanao. Mindanao is a very defensible position and redoubt: certainly moreso than southern Luzon. There are several good defensive positions with airfields that interlock: Surigao, Zamboanga, Cagayan, and Davao. Many of these are x3: all are at least x2 and there are good ports at Surigao, Davao, and Zamboanga for retreat. As the Japanese, I would defend Mindanao, with sufficient resources that if the allies chose to bypass it, I would make it a permanent thorn in their side.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:19 pm
by apbarog
Northern Mindano is defended. Davao is defended to some degree also. I landed at a couple of weakly held bases. Walker has had to worry about everything from Java to Sumatra to Borneo to the Philippines. He may be having trouble trying to garrison everything. I don't think he can.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:21 pm
by apbarog
13 Oct 43
A good day for the Japanese. Risks are taken frequently. Sometimes there's a price to pay.
Landing continued at Sorong.
North of Japan proper, sub Cisco spots an xAKL task force, but elects not to engage.
North of Zamboanga, US subchasers pummel RO-112. The sub may not survive. It's obvious that Walker continues to use his subs in a barrier CAP manner, layering the approaches to where I may be heading next.
Near Pescadores, in a deep water hex, sub Sailfish spots a task force with xAKs and AK. 2 torpedoes hit xAK Sydney Maru, and set it on fire. It was carrying oil. Consider it sunk.
Near Laoag, sub Skipjack fires 2 torpedoes at tiny TK Shozui Maru, but misses.
During the night, 2 enemy task forces move into Sorong. Combat as follows:
First engagement:
Japanese Ships
CA Furutaka
CA Kako, Shell hits 2
DD Shimakaze
DD Suzunami, Shell hits 1
DD Hayanami, Shell hits 1
DD Oshio
Allied Ships
DD Ringgold
DD Schroeder, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Spence
DD Terry
DD Thatcher
DD Wadsworth
Second engagement:
Japanese Ships
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Shimakaze
DD Suzunami
DD Hayanami
DD Oshio
Allied Ships
SC-635, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
SC-636, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
SC-640, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
SC-641, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
Third engagement:
Japanese Ships
CL Yura
CL Kiso
DD Fujinami
DD Michishio
DD Shigure
Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Wilson, Shell hits 1
DD Stuart, Shell hits 3
LST-16, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-17, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
LST-18, Shell hits 21, heavy fires, heavy damage
LST-22, Shell hits 2
LST-24, Shell hits 1
xAP Alice Moller, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Empire Kumari, Shell hits 11, heavy fires
xAP Kutsang, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Tambua, Shell hits 24, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Limerick, Shell hits 17, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
820 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 68 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Most of the damage to the transports was done before the ships were underway. De Ruyter and the 2 destroyers didn't land a single shell. Several LSTs and xAPs had just left the area, having completely unloaded the day before. The stragglers were left, and left there too long. The base will still be captured, and friendly airpower will then be able to cover this area.
Dutch sub KXIII hit 3 mines at Merak, and sinks. I'm very careful with my subs. I knew that there were mines at Merak, and didn't have any subs patrolling there. But KXIII was on the wrong side of Sumatra when I reassigned most of the Dutch subs' home base to Soerbaja, and I missed that KXIII would be transiting Merak.
31 carrier Hellcats swept Cagayan. About 20 enemy planes destroyed, for the loss of a couple of Hellcats. Cagayan now has just a few damaged planes now. Adjacent Butuan now has over 70 fighters. I'll leave it along for now, while I concentrate on action not on Mindanao.
About 10 B-25s bomb Manokwari's airfield. They've been doing so for a few days, hoping to damage the airfield enough to keep Walker from using it to support Sorong. The airfield damage was in the 30's, but it wasn't enough. About 30 fighters are there now, and they ambushed the Mitchells, downing about 6.
Allied units attacked at mountainous Malang, at 1 to 2 odds, and the forts stubbornly remain at 3. About 200 enemy casualties, and 300 friendly. I'll rest and continue this attritional battle. The fight is wearing down the US 41st Infantry Division, and it will be of little use after this battle is over. My choice is to wear down the enemy or move to control all of the hexsides and isolate the enemy. But Malang is a base hex. I don't want Walker airlifting everything out during a prolonged siege.
Americal Division attacks again at Boela, getting just 1 to 4 odds. About 300 casualties for each side. Americal is now over half disrupted. I'll rest a couple of days and repeat. Another long attritional battle.
As for today, the Marine division at Zamboanga did not load completely. Most of the support and vehicles did not load yet. I'll load for another day, and then head to the next invasion locations. US carriers move a bit but stay adjacent to Zamboanga.

RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:26 pm
by Aurorus
ORIGINAL: apbarog
Northern Mindano is defended. Davao is defended to some degree also. I landed at a couple of weakly held bases. Walker has had to worry about everything from Java to Sumatra to Borneo to the Philippines. He may be having trouble trying to garrison everything. I don't think he can.
Hence the advantage of widening your avenue of attack through Java. Nevertheless, Mindanao is well positioned to support all these areas really is the central junction of this whole region. If I defend anything at all here as Japan, I defend Mindanao with sufficient supplies to create a redoubt if the allies bypass it.
Southern Luzon is indefensible, but at the same time, the allies are vulnerable there without Mindanao. If they bypass Mindanao for southern Luzon, their troops and bases will be in open terrain, with the Japanese troops and bases in the rugged terrain of northern Luzon and Mindanao. Small SCTFs or bombardment TFs of CLs and DDs present a real problem to bases in clear terrain in southern Luzon, especially if those TFs can come from several directions and use paths of approach on both sides of the Luzon.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:31 am
by jwolf
I don't think those Japanese victories will stop you, or even delay things much, but they did succeed in making your operations more expensive.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:34 pm
by apbarog
Honestly, this has no effect at all. I'm about to capture Sorong. Losing a few xAPs and SCs makes no difference. I've lost few during the war so far. Losing APAs is a different matter.
Speaking of APAs, I forgot to mention APA American Legion. It was involved in the original Java invasion, and was badly damaged, with FLOT over 80. It had been stuck at Timoeka since then. I moved an ARD to Timoeka, and an AR, but the repair was painfully slow. Over a week per point. So last week I took a chance and tried to move it to Darwin. It could only move one hex per day. I had repaired all of its SYS damage, so I thought that it might work. It made it to two hexes from Darwin, where it sank. I know that it would have been out of the war for a considerable time, but I do enjoy trying to save the badly damaged ships. This was a case of losing a valuable ship.
Remember CV Lexington? It was damaged about the same time, spent some time in Australian ports repairing SYS damage, and then slowly traveled to the US. It's still on the West Coast, and has about 30 days of repair to go. But it's a survivor. Just one CVE lost so far. No CVs or CVLs lost for the good guys.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:53 pm
by Aurorus
ORIGINAL: apbarog
No CVs or CVLs lost for the good guys.
Japan has lost no CVs or CVLs?
This is a very remarkable game, and you have done an admirable job. I was thinking how much ground you have taken in 1943. If this were Oct. 1944, you would be on track for a marginal victory. To have done so much by 1943 can only be considered a decisive allied victory- no matter the score. Barring disproportionate losses, the allies do not have a numerical advantage in anything until early 1943. So with only 8 or 9 months of the advantage, you have taken back 50% or more of Japan's early war gains.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:18 pm
by apbarog
The good guys are whatever side I'm playing!
I'm showing that Japan has lost carriers Kaga, Akagi, Shokaku, Hiryu, Soryu, and Junyo. BB Nagato is listed sunk also, but it could have been just badly damaged in the August raid of Babeldaop. Japan has lost 6 heavy cruisers and 6 light cruisers, and 25 DDs.
The Allies have lost no CVs or CVLs. One CVE was lost. One fast US BB lost, 4 slow US BBs lost (one at PH), along with BBs Warspite and Revenge. One US CA, one Brit CA, and one Australian CA lost. 3 US CLs lost, 2 Dutch CLs, and 2 Brit CLs. 10 US DDs lost, 2 Australian DDs, 2 Brit DDs, 2 Dutch DDs, and one French DD.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:20 pm
by Aurorus
ORIGINAL: apbarog
The good guys are whatever side I'm playing!
I'm showing that Japan has lost carriers Kaga, Akagi, Shokaku, Hiryu, Soryu, and Junyo. BB Nagato is listed sunk also, but it could have been just badly damaged in the August raid of Babeldaop. Japan has lost 6 heavy cruisers and 6 light cruisers, and 25 DDs.
The Allies have lost no CVs or CVLs. One CVE was lost. One fast US BB lost, 4 slow US BBs lost (one at PH), along with BBs Warspite and Revenge. One US CA, one Brit CA, and one Australian CA lost. 3 US CLs lost, 2 Dutch CLs, and 2 Brit CLs. 10 US DDs lost, 2 Australian DDs, 2 Brit DDs, 2 Dutch DDs, and one French DD.
In an earlier PBEM (not the one that I am playing now against 821Bobo), the allies lost more than this in the first week of the war... jajaja.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:53 pm
by Bif1961
He lost 5/6th of the original KB, which explains why you have had the green light to move the Allied cause ahead by a year.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:38 pm
by apbarog
14 Oct 43
A good day for US sub Balao. It spots an xAK task force near Phuket, Thailand, and hits xAK Izumo Maru with 2 torpedoes. Sinking sounds. Later in the night it engages the same task force, and hits xAK Akasi Maru with 2 torpedoes. Again, sinking sounds. Nice work.
Sub Barb, near Biak, spots one of the Sorong task forces retiring to the ENE. The enemy appears to be heading towards Saipan, not Truk or Babeldaop. Saipan is a huge base, with over 100 ships spotted in port recently. But it's a long way from Sorong. Interesting. Saipan is way out of position to contest anything that I have planned.
At Kusaie Island, southeast of Truk, 3 US destroyers move in at high speed. A couple of ships had been spotted here. Destroyers Chauncey, John Rodgers, and Stevens finds and sinks xAK Atlantic Maru, and probably sinks patrol boat Nanrei Maru. Just a nuisance raid in a quiet sector.
At Christman Island in the Indian Ocean, a task force had been spotted. I suspect that a part of an infantry division may be getting evacuated. I sent sub Sargo in to investigate, and it got hammered by destroyer Mutsuki in the shallow water. Sargo should make it to Denpassar and survive.
Near San Jose, south of Palawan, RO-40 is hit several times by US subchasers. It may sink. Subchasers here are working the enemy sub barrier CAP. Lots of big friendly ships moving through the area today.
Sorong is attacked. Casualties are favorable, with unfavorable odds and forts. It will fall, just not right away.
Ground combat at Sorong (82,107)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 4570 troops, 26 guns, 76 vehicles, Assault Value = 191
Defending force 4126 troops, 22 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 65
Allied adjusted assault: 51
Japanese adjusted defense: 83
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
421 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 11 (4 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Assaulting units:
18th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
16th LRP Brigade
1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
27th Base Maint Engineer Battalion
Defending units:
Kure 2nd SNLF
33rd Infantry Rgt /1
54th Construction Battalion
110th Ship Eng Coy
7th Air Div /1
109th JAAF AF Bn /1
Today is the day for the next big invasions. Palawan is the target. Troops will unload at both bases on the island. Enemy defenses are unknown but believed to be light. A division plus support will hit each base. Carriers support. We're getting close to Manila, and can't rule out a big response from there. Over 150 bombers spotted at Manila. APAs will unload as quickly as possible and retire to Balikpapan and Samarinda, where the troops for the next invasions await. The next jump is even bigger, and more dangerous. But one thing at a time.

RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:40 pm
by apbarog
15 Oct 43
Active US subchasers hunt between Zamboanga and Palawan. Several RO subs are hit. Later, more hits are achieved by carrier air ASW.
Near Laoag, sub Sawfish gets a torpedo hit on TK Nisshin Maru #2. Probably not enough to sink the tanker, as it was empty.
After a long quiet period in the Solomons, I'd noticed a drawdown in enemy fighter strength at Rabaul. I try my first fighter sweep here, and it goes badly. 22 P-40Ks sweep, and find 42 Oscars, 42 Nicks, and 9 Tonys. I didn't expect the Warhawks to do well, but wanted to mix up the fighters and altitudes. The Warhawks went first, and most were destroyed, downing no enemy planes. 22 P-47s went next, and did well, downing about 15 enemy and losing about 4.
Then the real action began.
Lots of enemy land based air attacked the invasion shipping at Taytay in the morning, and, to a lesser extent, the carriers covering the landings one hex away in the afternoon.
Round 1:
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 13
D4Y1 Judy x 18
G4M1 Betty x 18
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
FM-1 Wildcat x 19
F6F-3 Hellcat x 120
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 5 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 12 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CA Cornwall
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
Round 2:
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
B6N1 Jill x 27
G4M1 Betty x 44
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
FM-1 Wildcat x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 89
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 27 destroyed, 5 damaged
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CA Cornwall
CA Minneapolis
DD Guest
CA Canberra, Torpedo hits 1 (FLOT in the 30's)
DD Cushing
DD Walke
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
5 x B6N1 Jill bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
Round 3:
Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 18
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
FM-1 Wildcat x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 69
Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y1 Judy: 9 destroyed
No Allied losses
In the afternoon, the carriers are targetted. Round 4:
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
A6M5 Zero x 3
B6N1 Jill x 2
G4M1 Betty x 22
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
FM-1 Wildcat x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed
No Allied losses
Round 5:
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 56
B5N2 Kate x 18
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
FM-1 Wildcat x 22
F6F-3 Hellcat x 203
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 6 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
FM-1 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Round 6:
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
P1Y1 Frances x 25
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
FM-1 Wildcat x 19
F6F-3 Hellcat x 194
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed
P1Y1 Frances: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVE Sangamon
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P1Y1 Frances bombing from 15000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
Round 7:
Japanese aircraft
B6N1 Jill x 15
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 21
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
FM-1 Wildcat x 9
F6F-3 Hellcat x 24
Japanese aircraft losses
B6N1 Jill: 6 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
AKA Centarus
DD Guest
CA Cornwall
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B6N1 Jill bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
Round 8:
Japanese aircraft
B6N1 Jill x 13
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 6
FM-1 Wildcat x 15
F6F-3 Hellcat x 155
Japanese aircraft losses
B6N1 Jill: 7 destroyed
No Allied losses
Total enemy air losses are about 250. Total US carrier air losses are about 15. One Allied cruiser moderately damaged but will survive. With US carriers 8 hexes from Manila, and all carrier air restricted to range 7, I didn't waste any naval strikes going to Manila, and into a very heavy CAP. The mission was to protect the landings, and that was successful. The Marines completely unloaded in the afternoon at Puerto Princess, and almost completely unloaded at Taytay. The bases should fall quickly, and all shipping will leave immediately. APAs will head back to Borneo and load for the next big invasion, Luzon.
Back on Java, the 5th Chinese Corp and the 50th Tank Brigade capture Madioen, now defended with weak remnants of units defeated earlier elsewhere.
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:46 pm
by apbarog
Region Summary: Burma
The Allied offensive, however limited, has taken Cox's Bazar, and the capture of Akyab is imminent. The offensive will pause there. Chinese divisions moved to threaten Myitkyina awhile ago. Walker reinforced here with a reserve that I knew from SigInt was in the Burma plains. The reinforcements weren't sent to Akyab, which was my objective.
Air power has destroyed most of the oil at Magwe. Enemy fighters have generally been withdrawn from the area. Burma was set to go quiet after the capture of Akyab.

RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:51 pm
by jwolf
APAs will head back to Borneo and load for the next big invasion, Luzon.
I see you don't believe in wasting any time! [;)] Great job by your carrier CAP at Palawan. Looks like you will invade Luzon about a year ahead of historical! [X(]
RE: See you in Tokyo Bay - Apbarog(A) vs Walker(J) DBB-B Scen28
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:02 pm
by apbarog
Thanks jwolf. The challenging part was getting all of the units to Borneo without hopelessly overstacking Balikpapan. At one point, I had 120,000 troops there, when the stacking limit is 90,000. Samarinda has about 50,000 now and is increasing. It's limit is 100,000 I believe.