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Any word on the next beta? I am about ready to get back into some marathon games of SE.

working on a small fixes patch subversion N.

bump!

Posted subversion N. Many fixes and finetunings.

Note that most of this year we'll be focussing on smaller issues as I am heavily invested in getting Republica DLC done.

Best wishes,
Vic

Thanks Vic!

Wahoo! Here we go again.....as soon as I file my tax return.

Thx for the continued updates!

Are you perhaps (still) considering a change to how the whole naval aspect works? For me its the biggest disappointment and i stopped playing with those features a while now. I was really hoping for some unit management in that regard.

If i may be so bold to outlay my 'simple' idea how i wish it worked...

Port buildings allow for 'ships with transport capacity' to ship (like the 'airlift' function) supplies to any other coastal hex. The net supply arriving is a function of distance, infastructure, and what-not else... And just like the airlift function on planes, supplies and resources and everything else, should flow through these nodes... except maybe energy.

War ships can only be formed at port buildings. Smaller "patrol boat' or DD 'squadrons', consisting of 5 ships, and larger capital ships consisting of 1 ship. Of course numerous ways to customize them as with other vehicles cant be absent

pls?

A tremendous lag has been introduced into the game with the N or N2 patch, I think, in the attack screen. When an attack is first initiated on the main map screen, an attack screen pop-up window appears from which additional units can be added or deleted to the attack and the modifiers are presented. Now, when I try to add a unit to the attack on this screen the game seems to pause for as long as 5 or 10 seconds, perhaps longer before proceeding. It has not crashed at that point, yet, but I get the feeling that it may. Anyone else?

Haven't noticed any delay in the combat screen with adding or subtracting units. Using current beta.

Spread out option still terrible. Half the planet not used:

Hello Vic,
A suggestion from Seymos:

Artillery Calibre compatible with Foot Movement: Add up to 60mm?
Maybe also increase for ATguns too? (40mm)

Currently, Foot Movement only limited to 25mm calibers = no design choices
60mm for Artillery and 40mm for ATguns sounds realistic

What do you think?
Thank you

Pymous wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:41 am Hello Vic,
A suggestion from Seymos:

Artillery Calibre compatible with Foot Movement: Add up to 60mm?
Maybe also increase for ATguns too? (40mm)

Currently, Foot Movement only limited to 25mm calibers = no design choices
60mm for Artillery and 40mm for ATguns sounds realistic

What do you think?
Thank you

This also makes logical sense.

Infantry can carry 120mm mortars when they are dissassembled on foot. Its not easy but its absolutely doable. The largest piece i believe requires 2 dudes and shells can be pain the butt to carry, but hey, weve done it in Bosnia in the 90s all the time.

There are also im pretty sure howitzers that are designed to be carried by infantry, usually designed for mountain warfare. Im not sure what kind of calibre they go up to tho.

solops wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:39 pm A tremendous lag has been introduced into the game with the N or N2 patch, I think, in the attack screen. When an attack is first initiated on the main map screen, an attack screen pop-up window appears from which additional units can be added or deleted to the attack and the modifiers are presented. Now, when I try to add a unit to the attack on this screen the game seems to pause for as long as 5 or 10 seconds, perhaps longer before proceeding. It has not crashed at that point, yet, but I get the feeling that it may. Anyone else?

Well, I still have this problem, even if others do not. And it seems like it is getting worse.
Using the N2 beta.

solops wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 8:35 pm

solops wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:39 pm A tremendous lag has been introduced into the game with the N or N2 patch, I think, in the attack screen. When an attack is first initiated on the main map screen, an attack screen pop-up window appears from which additional units can be added or deleted to the attack and the modifiers are presented. Now, when I try to add a unit to the attack on this screen the game seems to pause for as long as 5 or 10 seconds, perhaps longer before proceeding. It has not crashed at that point, yet, but I get the feeling that it may. Anyone else?

Well, I still have this problem, even if others do not. And it seems like it is getting worse.
Using the N2 beta.

Maybe something is wrong with your installation, or it's some special units you're using? Savefile would be helpful ...

I do not have that problem in my current playthrough - and I'm running the game on a toaster, and not even from its SSD:

.
Something is not right with this events random rolls, or is it?
. This is IIRC the 2nd event in that "chain" (there was one before, and things seem to get worse).
However - the values given for the rolls seem to be pretty much off, especially for the difficulty:

1. Diff = 50+2d100 is NOT 159 on average, but 151.
2. Actually, Diff is not rolled at all - I savescummed the current turn, and Diff always came out as 226. I even went back a turn, and when the event fired again, Diff again "rolled" 226. If it is rolled at all, it must have been at the start of the "event chain" (if something like this exists in the game)
3. For the governors skill roll, the lowest I have seen was 35, and the highest was 108, with an average of 73.7 . With the low numbers of rolls I did, this is ok for a 1d100 ... but seems to be a bit low, especially as it seems to peak at 110 instead of 129.

bump! New open beta posted!

Once I also have the manual updated i'll go for a new official release

Huzzah! I just finished my 1.26n2 game! I hope this new patch gets rid of the slowdown in the battle set-up screen. I uninstalled the game, cleaned the registry and reinstalled from the latest files and that did not help the slow-down.

Crash bug when initiating some combat with the latest open beta (older saved game)

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@pymous
Posted subversion o2.
Should fix this crash.
Thanks for quick post!!
best wishes,
Vic

I, too, got an 'exception error' when attacking a city in a recent 'pbem' game after updating to 'beta o'.
Hopefully, 'beta o2' will resolve this.
I am amazed that after 5 years & 20+ 'pbem' games, these issues are, extremely, rare; & a huge thank you, Vic, as always.