What's your Strategy?
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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
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Yesterday, I bought War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition.
I have had a chance to briefly look at it.
Thanks to your most excellent AAR, reviewing the game and rules is much easier to understand.
-Terry
ORIGINAL: crsutton
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
To be sure - HBs do not come on the board with anything more than 10-25 Low Naval (100-4000 feet) experience. Even NavB is poor, and it starts at 5000 feet. But after a couple of months of training in Low Nav to get them into the 55-70 range experience, level bombers on Low Nav CAN be devastating. But who can afford to devote that much time to training HBs for a secondary mission in 1942 or even early 1943?
Seems to me the HR, if any, should specify no HB naval bombing below 5000 feet [low naval]. In 1942-43 as you are experiencing, they can't hit much anyway and by 1944 it is quite reasonable to expect the Allies to have enough HB to train some in Naval Bombing below 10,000. Numerous light flak guns would have kept them from going below 5000.
Buuuuut, if you wish to play the game as designed and make your choices on Low Nav and NavB training, I agree that not having a HR on it is the way to go.
I'll take your word on the training timeline. I've never trained 4Es for naval anything. They're too valuable for strat purposes to do tactical airframes' jobs for them. I just looked at my array of all Allied 4e units and the naval training levels, both kinds, runs on average in the mid-to-high 20s. A few pilots are 40ish, but not many. OTOH, many Ground scores are in the high-60s.
Any Allied player who takes perfectly good B-17 units off-line for months at any time in the war to train in naval bombing is guilty of malpractice. In 1942? Hanging offense.
The HR is the grossest example of WITP hang-over in all the world of HRs. And there are some pretty squirrely ones in competition.
Ark and I set a HR for no low naval bombing by Army 4Es. Nothing below 10,000 feet. But I never used them for naval bombing at all. Like the Cow Man says they are too valuable and have much better use elsewhere. However, we do allow low naval bombing by Navy Liberators-which is what they were trained and designed for. Not more than one unit per base set on naval attack. This works well and does not get out of hand. Frankly, avengers set to 5,000 feet with bombs set rather than torpedoes are much more deadly than any other bomber in the army inventory. Mediums with strafing ability are a lot of fun but the losses can be high and the Allies don't really get many medium bombers. You get a quadjillion avengers and they pretty much have the same range as mediums and are much more effective.
ORIGINAL: Richard III
In more then a few past AAR`s over the years, ( maybe Nemo`s downfall among others ) I`ve seen USAAF 4E on port attack at 5,000 and lower hit multiple docked ships, including the valuable Aux. like AR`s, AS`s and AD`s, even a few CVL sometimes. This is in late `42 and early `43.
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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Any Allied player who takes perfectly good B-17 units off-line for months at any time in the war to train in naval bombing is guilty of malpractice. In 1942? Hanging offense.
The HR is the grossest example of WITP hang-over in all the world of HRs. And there are some pretty squirrely ones in competition.
There's no need to take a squadron offline. Train up on old airframes and then upgrade.
I suggest you do it with at least 50 pilots, just so you can experience what it means to be able to establish a "your boats cannot be here" zone that extends out 20 hexes from any big airfield. It is so powerful it remains a strategic, instead of tactical asset.
Imagine raids by 100 mavis instead of 10, and mavis that damage your cap without taking much damage in return. At least you were able to cap trap his 4e, that's not a real option for the japanese player, until he gets much better interceptors.
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
I see you're downloading a steam game while you're playing AE.
I about pulled the trigger on the Total War package the other day, but decided not to.
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
I see you're downloading a steam game while you're playing AE.
I about pulled the trigger on the Total War package the other day, but decided not to.
You have small children, right? [:)]
The Steam sale has been berry, berry good to me. (SNL homage.) The DSL has been running all day and half the night for a week and I still don't have everything downloaded. Just crazy prices on stuff I wanted a long time. Still spent less than $70 with four (?) days to go. I check in every eight hours to see the new flash deals. Every morning the harp alarm sounds on the iPhone and I go in to see the new dailies. It's addictive. How women must feel about shoe sales.
On the task bar thing, every time I post a screenie I forget to turn it off. Then I run into the forum to see if the icon for muffinman.com is open. Or similar. [:)]
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
I see you're downloading a steam game while you're playing AE.
I about pulled the trigger on the Total War package the other day, but decided not to.
You have small children, right? [:)]
The Steam sale has been berry, berry good to me. (SNL homage.) The DSL has been running all day and half the night for a week and I still don't have everything downloaded. Just crazy prices on stuff I wanted a long time. Still spent less than $70 with four (?) days to go. I check in every eight hours to see the new flash deals. Every morning the harp alarm sounds on the iPhone and I go in to see the new dailies. It's addictive. How women must feel about shoe sales.
On the task bar thing, every time I post a screenie I forget to turn it off. Then I run into the forum to see if the icon for muffinman.com is open. Or similar. [:)]
You order high-end muffins from the muffinman?? THE muffinman? The one on Drewry Lane?
Do you have a favourite flavour?
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
I see you're downloading a steam game while you're playing AE.
I about pulled the trigger on the Total War package the other day, but decided not to.
You have small children, right? [:)]
The Steam sale has been berry, berry good to me. (SNL homage.) The DSL has been running all day and half the night for a week and I still don't have everything downloaded. Just crazy prices on stuff I wanted a long time. Still spent less than $70 with four (?) days to go. I check in every eight hours to see the new flash deals. Every morning the harp alarm sounds on the iPhone and I go in to see the new dailies. It's addictive. How women must feel about shoe sales.
On the task bar thing, every time I post a screenie I forget to turn it off. Then I run into the forum to see if the icon for muffinman.com is open. Or similar. [:)]
). She shops a lot...I just make sure she has enough..[8|]ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
I see you're downloading a steam game while you're playing AE.
I about pulled the trigger on the Total War package the other day, but decided not to.
You have small children, right? [:)]
The Steam sale has been berry, berry good to me. (SNL homage.) The DSL has been running all day and half the night for a week and I still don't have everything downloaded. Just crazy prices on stuff I wanted a long time. Still spent less than $70 with four (?) days to go. I check in every eight hours to see the new flash deals. Every morning the harp alarm sounds on the iPhone and I go in to see the new dailies. It's addictive. How women must feel about shoe sales.
On the task bar thing, every time I post a screenie I forget to turn it off. Then I run into the forum to see if the icon for muffinman.com is open. Or similar. [:)]
You order high-end muffins from the muffinman?? THE muffinman? The one on Drewry Lane?
Do you have a favourite flavour?
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
I almost (might still) pulled the trigger on Tropico, TW collection, Skyrim, GTA, and a couple of others....by not having them I have been far more productive with my honey do list. It has also forced me to play AE more and get into more...I suffer burn out and fidget a lot in the game and end up spending appx 2 hrs per turn...I am an instant gratification kind of guy. Is Tropico a lot better than Sim City?
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
I almost (might still) pulled the trigger on Tropico, TW collection, Skyrim, GTA, and a couple of others....by not having them I have been far more productive with my honey do list. It has also forced me to play AE more and get into more...I suffer burn out and fidget a lot in the game and end up spending appx 2 hrs per turn...I am an instant gratification kind of guy. Is Tropico a lot better than Sim City?
I have played every Tropico since the first. I have #4 with all DLC. It is a hoot, especially the campaign. A huge step up from #3, which I thought was blah. It helps if you're old enough to remember the early days of Castro and the 1960s and the whole banana republic thing in movies and TV shows. Everybody gets lampooned, from politicians to drunken priests to enviro whackos to tourists to . . . everybody. It's also beautiful if you have a big monitor. For the sale price? Run to Steam, buy it, store it until Halloween.
I've only played about three hours of Skyrim so far, but it is hands down the prettiest game I've ever had. Rock solid so far too. I played Oblivion and the new engine is a solid generation better.
I just bought (ten minutes ago) COD Modern Warfare 2 for $14.99. About my limit on a COD. I try to stay at least two generations back from the full-priced lead. I think I'm at least three right now. The multiplayer is way too fast for me now, but for fifteen clams the single player campaign is a deal.
) and I don't know if it can handle Skyrim.. I'll probably pull the trigger on Tropico 3...its only 5 bucks.ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
I've spent hundreds of human hours on Oblivion from the day it came out on Xbox and then on here when I got rid of it...I just have a work issued laptop (that I issued myself
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
2 bucks.
I am getting ready to pull the trigger on
Tropico 4 (never played, you recommend)
GTA IV (played when it first came out on Xbox..only 5 bucks)
Pacific Storm (looks fun for 3.75)
Total War Collection...(45 bucks, was 25 two days ago [:(]) (might wait on just because there are some many games, and they're kind of the same thing over and over and the AI is garbage)
Sim City 4 (played it a lot when it first came out..big Sim City fan)
I have a handful of the games on disc, but steam is so awesome to have all of my games right there instead of piled up on the shelf.
Installing Tropico 4 and all of the DLC.. probably play it tonight. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks. I am reading your AAR too.. not just hyjacking. [:)]
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
2 bucks.
I am getting ready to pull the trigger on
Tropico 4 (never played, you recommend)
GTA IV (played when it first came out on Xbox..only 5 bucks)
Pacific Storm (looks fun for 3.75)
Total War Collection...(45 bucks, was 25 two days ago [:(]) (might wait on just because there are some many games, and they're kind of the same thing over and over and the AI is garbage)
Sim City 4 (played it a lot when it first came out..big Sim City fan)
I have a handful of the games on disc, but steam is so awesome to have all of my games right there instead of piled up on the shelf.
Installing Tropico 4 and all of the DLC.. probably play it tonight. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks. I am reading your AAR too.. not just hyjacking. [:)]
I never mind hijacking.
I just sent the turn back, and the first halting moves of SNAGGLEPUSS are moving. I feel like I'm poking a badger with a stick (Eddie Izzard homage.) [:)]
Torpico 4 with DLC will eat up many, many hours. The yes-man guy who is your servant is a simpering fool, and the female revolutionary on the radio is a scream.
Sim City 4 IMO needs the Rush Hour DLC to really be "finished." I played it al lot years ago, but I never thought they executed the regional theme very well. You couldn't make geographical features cross the whole macro map; you had to fiddle with various size mini-regions and then try to resolve the edges. It never worked well and getting a region ready to play on was a whole afternoon.
I got GTAIV on Steam and got about 1/3 through before I got distracted. My fave was San Andreas. Wish they would re-do it with modern graphics. Love that era's music and the wide-open map. I'm not much for city driving.
ORIGINAL: zuluhour
FPS=SOCOM
strategy solo style: CIV
wargames (until WITP) Talonsoft.
**total hijack**[;)]
ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
I loved nothing more then finding a good tune (always would flip to Running Down a Dream) and just ride a motorcycle around for hours upon hours. And murder people and take chicks to the park ofcourse..