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Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:48 pm**

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

So Jermain Defoe signs for Sunderland - just in time to make his debut for the Black Cats against..... Tottenham [:@] Why is that a problem? Well he happens to have scored on his debut for every club he's played for.....
That went well.

So did they play Defoe and he missed scoring?

warspite1

Yes - his record is ended [:)]

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:48 pm**

ORIGINAL: Orm

Chelsea won 5-0 against Swansea. Chelsea do seem to score a lot of goals considering that they play all out defence. [:D]

warspite1

TD remains quiet...... [;)]

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:49 pm**

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

Chelsea won 5-0 against Swansea. Chelsea do seem to score a lot of goals considering that they play all out defence. [:D]
warspite1

TD remains quiet...... [;)]

I noticed. [:)]

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:55 pm**

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

Chelsea won 5-0 against Swansea. Chelsea do seem to score a lot of goals considering that they play all out defence. [:D]
warspite1

TD remains quiet...... [;)]

Ahhh, someone mentioned Mourinho's team?? Don't get me started, you provocateurs!

[:D]

Statistics: 51 goals in 22 matches => 2,3 goals per match. Not bad. Still, Chelsea has got a lot of dynamite, TNT forward (you can expect goals). Hopefully Mourinho might see the light. But I doubt it.

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:03 pm**

Don't get me started, you provocateurs!

But I do want a update on this so I feel a need to be provocative.

Man City 45 goals, Arsenal 37 goals, Man United 36 goals, Liverpool 31 goals. All in 21 or 22 matches.

It seems to me that Chelsea score more. But do they play more defensive than the other top teams in the league?

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:14 pm**

ORIGINAL: Orm
Man City 45 goals, Arsenal 37 goals, Man United 36 goals, Liverpool 31 goals. All in 21 or 22 matches.

It seems to me that Chelsea score more. But do they play more defensive than the other top teams in the league?

To be honest, I am not following the Premier League this year. Not even the results [:)]

So has Mourinho changed his style? I would be very surprised. Anyway, to me the problem is not the lack of goals. It's the *style* You can have very entertaining games which end 0 - 0.

But if it's the old Mourinho and all his players are still inside the "cave" aka near their GK [8|] then I imagine that they can effectively mount a couple or more of counterattacks (90 mn is a lot of time) and score these couple of goals minimum. Again, the dynamite and TNT forward do help [:)]

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:18 pm**

And anyways, these statistics are saying this:

If they scored 5 today, they might score err... 0 on the next match. That is these couple or more counterattacks might not suffice.

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:24 pm**

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

And anyways, these statistics are saying this:

If they scored 5 today, they might score err... 0 on the next match. That is these couple or more counterattacks might not suffice.

Indeed.

But at the same time I would have thought that Swansea would have played defensively when they played Chelsea.

To bad that you have not watched Chelsea this year. An update would have been nice.

Anyway. Thank you for a interesting discussion. [:)]

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:32 pm**

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

ORIGINAL: Orm
Man City 45 goals, Arsenal 37 goals, Man United 36 goals, Liverpool 31 goals. All in 21 or 22 matches.

It seems to me that Chelsea score more. But do they play more defensive than the other top teams in the league?

To be honest, I am not following the Premier League this year. Not even the results [:)]

So has Mourinho changed his style? I would be very surprised. Anyway, to me the problem is not the lack of goals. It's the *style* You can have very entertaining games which end 0 - 0.

But if it's the old Mourinho and all his players are still inside the "cave" aka near their GK [8|] then I imagine that they can effectively mount a couple or more of counterattacks (90 mn is a lot of time) and score these couple of goals minimum. Again, the dynamite and TNT forward do help [:)]

warspite1

TD one thing is clear from these discussions - we are all proper football fans here - so you don't need to repeat the "You can have very entertaining games which end 0-0" line that IS needed for some [:D]

I think its difficult - whoever you are - to "park the bus" and then regularly score 2-3 goals a match - which Chelsea are doing.

Mourinho is really irritating at the moment because he's got his "there's a conspiracy against Chelsea" knickers on [>:] [>:] But the simple fact is, he's bought well (Costa), he quickly gets rid of dross (De Bruyne), and he gets results.

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:11 pm**

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

ORIGINAL: Orm
Man City 45 goals, Arsenal 37 goals, Man United 36 goals, Liverpool 31 goals. All in 21 or 22 matches.

It seems to me that Chelsea score more. But do they play more defensive than the other top teams in the league?

To be honest, I am not following the Premier League this year. Not even the results [:)]

So has Mourinho changed his style? I would be very surprised. Anyway, to me the problem is not the lack of goals. It's the *style* You can have very entertaining games which end 0 - 0.

But if it's the old Mourinho and all his players are still inside the "cave" aka near their GK [8|] then I imagine that they can effectively mount a couple or more of counterattacks (90 mn is a lot of time) and score these couple of goals minimum. Again, the dynamite and TNT forward do help [:)]
warspite1

TD one thing is clear from these discussions - we are all proper football fans here - so you don't need to repeat the "You can have very entertaining games which end 0-0" line that IS needed for some [:D]

I think its difficult - whoever you are - to "park the bus" and then regularly score 2-3 goals a match - which Chelsea are doing.

Mourinho is really irritating at the moment because he's got his "there's a conspiracy against Chelsea" knickers on [>:] [>:] But the simple fact is, he's bought well (Costa), he quickly gets rid of dross (De Bruyne), and he gets results.

Hmmm, not necessarily. If you park the bus you concede both the ball and space. The opponent might be imprudent and there you go => dangerous counterattacks [:)]

Small teams are more or less forced to do this but (and that's important) they do not have both dynamite and TNT forward but mediocre (with all due respect) players.

The Kings of the few goals aka 1 - 0 or 0 - 1 were the Italians in the early 90s (Arrigo Sacchi's Milan AC IIRC). They deliberately aimed at these results, or if you prefer, when they attained that miserable goal they "killed" the match, did not want a second goal.

Mourinho is a different specimen though. This I know. If his team can bag half dozen goals, perfect! But the plan is the plan. As always, quality is what really matters. And Mourinho has got a lot of that. I mean => BIG budget teams.

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:15 pm**

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

To be honest, I am not following the Premier League this year. Not even the results [:)]

So has Mourinho changed his style? I would be very surprised. Anyway, to me the problem is not the lack of goals. It's the *style* You can have very entertaining games which end 0 - 0.

But if it's the old Mourinho and all his players are still inside the "cave" aka near their GK [8|] then I imagine that they can effectively mount a couple or more of counterattacks (90 mn is a lot of time) and score these couple of goals minimum. Again, the dynamite and TNT forward do help [:)]
warspite1

TD one thing is clear from these discussions - we are all proper football fans here - so you don't need to repeat the "You can have very entertaining games which end 0-0" line that IS needed for some [:D]

I think its difficult - whoever you are - to "park the bus" and then regularly score 2-3 goals a match - which Chelsea are doing.

Mourinho is really irritating at the moment because he's got his "there's a conspiracy against Chelsea" knickers on [>:] [>:] But the simple fact is, he's bought well (Costa), he quickly gets rid of dross (De Bruyne), and he gets results.

Hmmm, not necessarily. If you park the bus you concede both the ball and space. The opponent might be imprudent and there you go => dangerous counterattacks [:)]

Small teams are more or less forced to do this but (and that's important) they do not have both dynamite and TNT forward but mediocre (with all due respect) players.

The Kings of the few goals aka 1 - 0 or 0 - 1 were the Italians in the early 90s (Arrigo Sacchi's Milan AC IIRC). They deliberately aimed at these results, or if you prefer, when they attained that miserable goal they "killed" the match, did not want a second goal.

Mourinho is a different specimen though. This I know. If his team can bag half dozen goals, perfect! But the plan is the plan. As always, quality is what really matters. And Mourinho has got a lot of that. I mean => BIG budget teams.

warspite1

Heehee I think we've been here before [;)]

BTW who do you follow?

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:19 pm**

I always liked these three teams (and want them to win): (premier league) Liverpool, (Serie A) Juventus and (La Liga) Barcelona [8D]

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:20 pm**

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Heehee I think we've been here before [;)]

Yes, we already argued this to death!

Posted: **Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:04 am**

Oh dear....

...refereeing standards appear to have fallen off a cliff this season

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... -half.html

Posted: **Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:14 am**

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Oh dear....

...refereeing standards appear to have fallen off a cliff this season

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... -half.html

I rather suspect that the standard is as it always has been or even better.

Press are just getting better reporting it.

Posted: **Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:33 am**

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Oh dear....

...refereeing standards appear to have fallen off a cliff this season

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... -half.html
I rather suspect that the standard is as it always has been or even better.

Press are just getting better reporting it.

warspite1

Not really. There have been a number of pretty major errors this season, calls for some refs to be stood down and for the refs boss to be replaced. With television at every ground and the numbers of cameras increasing there is much more chance of problems being noticed. But that is not what is happening here. This is a particular drop off seen this season and some real howlers being made.

This is a classic example - i.e. the linesman (and the ref who was RIGHT behind Vertonghen) did not miss the incident (they had clear sight), they did not interpret wrongly (typically where an incident happens too quickly) - no, in this case they simply forgot the basic rule that one CANNOT be offside in their own half.

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:01 pm**

After the first leg of the first semi-final last night (Liverpool 1-1 Chelsea), the first game of the second takes place tonight. It's worrying times for us long time followers of Tottenham Hotspur. On paper, two games against League 1(3rd tier) opposition should present no problem. But a) it's Spurs we are talking about, and b) Aston Villa no doubt thought the same when taking on League 2 Bradford City two years ago. Worried.

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:18 pm**

Right to be worried - the boys from the red half of Steel City doing themselves proud [:(]

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:54 pm**

Mmmmm.... The slenderest of leads to take to Brammall Lane.... 1-0 on the night. Not great.....

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:59 pm**

Not great.....

Not bad either. [:)]

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