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Speaking of CX, which was the most successful of the German auxiliary cruisers in terms of number of ships sunk and tonnage?

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Speaking of CX, which was the most successful of the German auxiliary cruisers in terms of number of ships sunk and tonnage?

I belive that to be Pinguin.

At last a question that i had some knowledge about. [:)]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Speaking of CX, which was the most successful of the German auxiliary cruisers in terms of number of ships sunk and tonnage?

I belive that to be Pinguin.

At last a question that i had some knowledge about. [:)]

Warspite1

You believe correctly - 32 ships and 155,000 tons.

THIS IS A HUGE LIST AND MAY TAKE SOME TIME TO LOAD.

Merchant Navy Losses in WW2.

Schiff 33 "Pinguin" Hilfskreuzer (HSK 5)

While on patrol and escort duty in Western Australian water HMAS Sydney was lost with all hands. When and why was she lost? And what year was the wreck found?

ORIGINAL: Orm

While on patrol and escort duty in Western Australian water HMAS Sydney was lost with all hands. When and why was she lost? And what year was the wreck found?

Warspite1

She fought a duel with the auxiliary cruiser Kormoran in [?] November 1941. Both ships were mortally wounded in the engagement, but at least soem of the German vessel's crew were picked up, unlike the Aussie ship [:(].

The wreck was found in [2008?]

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ORIGINAL: Orm

While on patrol and escort duty in Western Australian water HMAS Sydney was lost with all hands. When and why was she lost? And what year was the wreck found?

Warspite1

She fought a duel with the auxiliary cruiser Kormoran in [?] November 1941. Both ships were mortally wounded in the engagement, but at least soem of the German vessel's crew were picked up, unlike the Aussie ship [:(].

The wreck was found in [2008?]

All correct. [&o]

Sydney was lost, with all 645 hands, after the battle with the auxiliary cruiser Komoran (HSK-8) on the 19th november 1941. Sydney was the largest loss of life in the history of the Royal Australian Navy. [:(] The wreck was found 17 March 2008.

Komoran was scuttled because of the damage she got in the battle with Sydney. 318 men was rescued, and inprisoned, by Australia.

The light cruiser HMAS Sydney was the largest ship in WWII to be sunk with all hands. But which ship - of similar size and type - was sunk with just one survivor in WWII?

ORIGINAL: warspite1

I always thought it somewhat morbidly amusing that the mutual destruction outcome of the Sydney vs Kormoran is impossible to actually get in Wif........

Not really, providing both sides have better ships in the combat. [:)]

ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

Lastly, the question was what was Asimov's "explanation" Although, all this expansion has kind of killed the joke I wanted to make, so Brian brian, feel free to hit with a trivia question.

Well, considering it was Asimov, I'll guess aliens with a strange sense of humor, or possibly time travellers from the future.

ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

ORIGINAL: warspite1

I always thought it somewhat morbidly amusing that the mutual destruction outcome of the Sydney vs Kormoran is impossible to actually get in Wif........

Warspite1

But it was such a freak result, I would have thought that you would not need that as a possible outcome in WIF with its two month turns - maybe in a tactical naval game yes.

Probably best not to think too much about the fate of Sydney's crew (those that survived the carnage of Kormoran's close range attack anyway). After one torpedo, 500 150mm rounds plus whole manner of other hits from the 20mm and 37mm guns of the German ship, one can only imagine the horror scene on board Sydney as she limped away at 5 knots from the battle, into the night, ablaze from bow to stern and sinking slowly from the bow. With the Captain and many senior officers dead, thanks to a direct hit on the bridge, the furious, but ultimately futile effort, that must have been applied to bring her fires under control, the sailors working in the dark and with most, if not all, of the ship's power gone.

Ultimately (according to some of Kormoran's crew) there was a huge explosion many hours later that was seen in the distance; probably the result of her magazines igniting. No doubt many men evacuated the ship once hope of saving the cruiser was gone, but they were never to be picked up...[:(]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

Lastly, the question was what was Asimov's "explanation" Although, all this expansion has kind of killed the joke I wanted to make, so Brian brian, feel free to hit with a trivia question.

Well, considering it was Asimov, I'll guess aliens with a strange sense of humor, or possibly time travellers from the future.

Specifically, a time traveler studying WW2 for a project, and leaving his mark so his peers would know what he researched first hand.

(Told you it was a stupid question)

ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

Lastly, the question was what was Asimov's "explanation" Although, all this expansion has kind of killed the joke I wanted to make, so Brian brian, feel free to hit with a trivia question.

Well, considering it was Asimov, I'll guess aliens with a strange sense of humor, or possibly time travellers from the future.

Specifically, a time traveler studying WW2 for a project, and leaving his mark so his peers would know what he researched first hand.

(Told you it was a stupid question)

Awesome question. [:)]

Now I just need to find out how to be accepted to the time traveler school so I can study WWII first hand.

Orm was here sounds kind of nice. [;)] Now I need to ponder on some locations where to scribble that. [&:][:D]

don't you folks watch the news? obviously the first successful time machine will drop you on to the set of a Charlie Chaplin movie. the good news is, your cell phone will still have reception!

otherwise, be careful what you wish for there Orm. would you really like to see the Barikady Tractor Factory first hand?



recently at the library book sale I picked up a self-pulished first-hand WWII memoir written by what turned out to be a battalion messenger runner in the US 84th Infantry division. it wasn't that exciting to read a never ending set of "that night we got lucky and there was actually straw in the barn we selected to sleep in. much better than sleeping on potatoes!" but it leads me to a question.

what did yer average GI Joe call average German artillery fire?

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

ORIGINAL: paulderynck



Well, considering it was Asimov, I'll guess aliens with a strange sense of humor, or possibly time travellers from the future.

Specifically, a time traveler studying WW2 for a project, and leaving his mark so his peers would know what he researched first hand.

(Told you it was a stupid question)

Awesome question. [:)]

Now I just need to find out how to be accepted to the time traveler school so I can study WWII first hand.

Orm was here sounds kind of nice. [;)] Now I need to ponder on some locations where to scribble that. [&:][:D]

Reminds me of the old R&D rag: "the boss wants a time machine built, and he wants it yesterday"

What was the final German High Command name for the operation the Allies called: "The Battle of the Bulge"?

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

What was the final German High Command name for the operation the Allies called: "The Battle of the Bulge"?

Wacht am Rhein. I used to play a wargame with that name.

ORIGINAL: SewerStarFish

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

What was the final German High Command name for the operation the Allies called: "The Battle of the Bulge"?

Wacht am Rhein. I used to play a wargame with that name.

As did I. It was well done and very enjoyable, but the Germans couldn't win without bad play by the Allies.

Obviously a very realistic simulation!