RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:05 pm
Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. South China Sea and Surrounding Land Areas.
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:05 pm
Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Siberia.
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Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Turkey. Caucuses.
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Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Central USSR.
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Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Balkans. Poland.
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Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Western Europe.
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Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Italy. MTO.
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
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Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Strategic Summary.
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:24 am
What I don't get is this. Free France exists, but there don't seem to be Free French units anywhere in action on the frontlines.
That's a pity, because a small Free French air force (with ATR of course) or a couple of Free French naval transports can make a lot of difference. I'm missing the "dirty" tricks one can do with the Free French. Suppose they have 3 TRS. They pick a naval action and the CW/US take land actions. Than the Free French take on board the US and CW marines and drop them off at an enemy controlled beach. All in one impulse, without warning. And no offensive chit needed to do this in a supercombined...
Or simply put a Free French INF in Bordeaux with the partisan there.
Or use Free French ATR to drop US or CW PARA...
I love to have a small Free French force available to the Wallies in 1944-1945...
That's a pity, because a small Free French air force (with ATR of course) or a couple of Free French naval transports can make a lot of difference. I'm missing the "dirty" tricks one can do with the Free French. Suppose they have 3 TRS. They pick a naval action and the CW/US take land actions. Than the Free French take on board the US and CW marines and drop them off at an enemy controlled beach. All in one impulse, without warning. And no offensive chit needed to do this in a supercombined...
Or simply put a Free French INF in Bordeaux with the partisan there.
Or use Free French ATR to drop US or CW PARA...
I love to have a small Free French force available to the Wallies in 1944-1945...
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:03 pm
Yes, you are 100% correct, I've not understood that subtly until too late. For example, building out the Free French infantry units and taking a land with Free France when the US takes a naval. I'm just not experienced with these tricks of the trade and tend to not to give them their due consideration. But, I will next time. Or, maybe start in this game though a bit late just to get the experience.ORIGINAL: Centuur
What I don't get is this. Free France exists, but there don't seem to be Free French units anywhere in action on the frontlines.
That's a pity, because a small Free French air force (with ATR of course) or a couple of Free French naval transports can make a lot of difference. I'm missing the "dirty" tricks one can do with the Free French. Suppose they have 3 TRS. They pick a naval action and the CW/US take land actions. Than the Free French take on board the US and CW marines and drop them off at an enemy controlled beach. All in one impulse, without warning. And no offensive chit needed to do this in a supercombined...
Or simply put a Free French INF in Bordeaux with the partisan there.
Or use Free French ATR to drop US or CW PARA...
I love to have a small Free French force available to the Wallies in 1944-1945...
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:28 pm
Actually, land units are the *last* thing I would buy with the Free French. The first thing I would buy are naval transports, and particularly AMPHs. A couple of Free French AMPHs, plus some surface ships for escorts, and the Allies can launch an invasion with the US or CW taking a land. After that, the next thing would bombers, for ground strikes. There are never enough air actions; use the French ones.
Land offensives take a lot of units; building at a rate of one unit a turn, you won't get enough land units to make a difference, and even if you got some, they almost certainly would be mixed up with other Allied units, so would not be useful unless those units could move, and if they can move, why do you need the French? The one exception is the possibility of combining with French partisans, but I have never been able to pull that off.
So AMPHs, bombers, and TRSs are the way I would go with the French.
Land offensives take a lot of units; building at a rate of one unit a turn, you won't get enough land units to make a difference, and even if you got some, they almost certainly would be mixed up with other Allied units, so would not be useful unless those units could move, and if they can move, why do you need the French? The one exception is the possibility of combining with French partisans, but I have never been able to pull that off.
So AMPHs, bombers, and TRSs are the way I would go with the French.
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:01 pm
ORIGINAL: Courtenay
Actually, land units are the *last* thing I would buy with the Free French. The first thing I would buy are naval transports, and particularly AMPHs. A couple of Free French AMPHs, plus some surface ships for escorts, and the Allies can launch an invasion with the US or CW taking a land. After that, the next thing would bombers, for ground strikes. There are never enough air actions; use the French ones.
Land offensives take a lot of units; building at a rate of one unit a turn, you won't get enough land units to make a difference, and even if you got some, they almost certainly would be mixed up with other Allied units, so would not be useful unless those units could move, and if they can move, why do you need the French? The one exception is the possibility of combining with French partisans, but I have never been able to pull that off.
So AMPHs, bombers, and TRSs are the way I would go with the French.
Don't forget the air transports for the Para's. I like to have at least one of those for Free France too. And you are right for not building a lot of land units with the Free French. But in this game, I would have build one since that partisan is in Bordeaux...
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:48 pm
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
It got railed into Moscow and then supply got cut to Moscow so the Germans could never reorganize it. It was overrun and lost when the Soviets took back Moscow. In retro-spec should have left the unit in Berlin to fight allied strategic bombing raids. Live and learn.
Yes, it would have been interesting to see it matched against the B-29s flying out of England.
ORIGINAL: Courtenay
So AMPHs, bombers, and TRSs are the way I would go with the French.
In my current GW solitaire game, the Free French got a transport and several SCSs. And what have I built since then? Land units, despite seeing how useful that old 3-3 transport is for the Allies. I will learn someday.
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:51 pm
Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Summary.
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:07 pm
Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Allied #1. Strategic Bombing Raids Against German Oil.
Unimpressive.
Unimpressive.
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:08 pm
Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Allied #1. Axis Naval Threat Assessment.
Not much but still some German, Italian and Vichy naval threats. No IJN threat left at all.
Not much but still some German, Italian and Vichy naval threats. No IJN threat left at all.
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:09 pm
Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Allied #1. Bay of Biscay (1/2).
And the allies experience the bite of the little German/Italian naval threat that remains.
And the allies experience the bite of the little German/Italian naval threat that remains.
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:10 pm
Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Allied #1. Bay of Biscay (2/2).
Some measure of payback by the allies.
Some measure of payback by the allies.
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:11 pm
Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Allied #1. Italian Coast. Husky II.
Massive joint USN/RN invasion, reinforcement, support and supply task forces off the coast of Italy. No will the weather cooperate?
Massive joint USN/RN invasion, reinforcement, support and supply task forces off the coast of Italy. No will the weather cooperate?
RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:13 pm
Turn 33. Jan/Feb 1945. Allied #7. Weather.
Weather is marginal for Husky II landings but the CW/US decide to execute a limited (i.e., single) landing on the Italian mainland.
Weather is marginal for Husky II landings but the CW/US decide to execute a limited (i.e., single) landing on the Italian mainland.