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RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:55 am
by karonagames
I used to work for Interactive Magic, who were due to publish Road to Moscow. I have a barely playable version of the game knocking around somewhere. I assume the game fell through the cracks when Interactive Magic moved from boxed game publishing into online games. A lot of titles were sold to Ubisoft, but I don't think Road to Moscow was one of them.
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:12 am
by ComradeP
Can one of you show me on what you are talking about on divisional insignia? If it is what I think, that would be awesome, especially showing the SS unit insignias.
The screenshots in this BiN AAR should give you a good idea of divisional insignia counters in SSG games:
http://www.ssg.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5306&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
An SSG unit counter (on the map) is composed of: a drawing of men/equipment (for non-divisional units)/divisional insignia, a NATO symbol identifying the type of unit, NATO indicator of unit size and an indicator of whether a unit is in supply or not.
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:55 pm
by goranw
Also I have the same question - what happened to Road to Moscow?
Hi!
If you want to see some old screen shots from Road to Moscow go to my site
www.mannaberg.se
Goran
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:34 pm
by Grisha
ORIGINAL: ComradeP
Can one of you show me on what you are talking about on divisional insignia? If it is what I think, that would be awesome, especially showing the SS unit insignias.
The screenshots in this BiN AAR should give you a good idea of divisional insignia counters in SSG games:
http://www.ssg.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5306&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
An SSG unit counter (on the map) is composed of: a drawing of men/equipment (for non-divisional units)/divisional insignia, a NATO symbol identifying the type of unit, NATO indicator of unit size and an indicator of whether a unit is in supply or not.
Interesting. Seeing that, my mind instantly responded with "too cluttered!" The terrain graphics really hit hard for me, muddying my ability to assess visually. WitE is cleaner, which I can appreciate.
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:37 pm
by Grisha
ORIGINAL: goranw
Also I have the same question - what happened to Road to Moscow?
Hi!
If you want to see some old screen shots from Road to Moscow go to my site
www.mannaberg.se
Goran
I had high hopes for this design. I remember it went through several iterations, eventually settling on an online version that was in realtime. In the end, I believe the developer stated that the neural network code wasn't good enough for what he wanted. This really died a slow painful death.
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:33 pm
by ComradeP
Interesting. Seeing that, my mind instantly responded with "too cluttered!" The terrain graphics really hit hard for me, muddying my ability to assess visually. WitE is cleaner, which I can appreciate.
It's mostly bocage terrain, that's why it looks "cluttered".
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:25 pm
by goranw
Hi!
Uploaded is a small part of a typical real German OKH- map that was widely used.
(Its the German 9th army and The Soviet positions-43)
Its easy to see some resemblence with the map in
"War in the East". I find that very inspiring. Very often
game maps are to fancy and totally unrealistic. Of course a map cant be
altogether realistic because of the need for some abstractions and game-help.
Goran
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:49 pm
by british exil
goranw where did you get the map? Or rather where can you buy such maps?
Mat
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:29 pm
by goranw
ORIGINAL: british exil
goranw where did you get the map? Or rather where can you buy such maps?
Mat
Hi!
From contacts with the same map interest and from buying on Ebay.
Goran
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:45 pm
by hgilmer3
I just read this AAR and I really liked it.
This is the one wargame title I have been waiting for for awhile.
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:15 am
by SGHunt
Thanks - more AAR's (and from big, bad players) to come I gather!
Stuart
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:18 am
by SGHunt
Ooops - I see Jon has already stated posting!
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:39 pm
by Grisha
ORIGINAL: british exil
goranw where did you get the map? Or rather where can you buy such maps?
Mat
The University of Indiana (Bloomington) has a very nice collection of Soviet and German maps, both from the WWII era. Contact their Geography Library staff for info and cost.
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:34 pm
by hgilmer3
One thing I noticed that I really like the sound of in your AAR was that there seemed to be 4 strats to use and every one of them had a pro and con to it. Some of the discussions, I could just see the generals having the same discussions and maybe even arguing with each other (until Hitler walked in, I bet).
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:47 pm
by henri51
ORIGINAL: lbadal99
I would say SSG games were designed well with the "art" look, but this game really looks well done and it seems to be very accurate in the statistics. [&o]
Can one of you show me on what you are talking about on divisional insignia? If it is what I think, that would be awesome, especially showing the SS unit insignias. [:D]
Also I have the same question - what happened to Road to Moscow? [&:]
RtM was dropped and is presumably dead. I still have (I think) the CD of the Alpha version I received for a review I did for the Gamesdomain site (and maybe Alpha is a generous word in this case). Possibly the game was too ambitious for the capabilities of computers back then, but it WAS an interesting project.
Henri
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:34 am
by pvthudson01
I hope all this is documented in the instruction manual
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:21 pm
by Krec
The main problem that one must always wrestle with is speed/time vs slower and careful. What i am seeing in some of these scenarios so far is that if you are 1-2 turns late getting to a certain spot the Russian Horde will block you out or cut you off. I am only playing against the AI. Against a Human i bet it is quite nasty.
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:15 am
by topeverest
Von Jaeger,
Thinking about buying this game. What is your overall impression as a first time player of the system? What is great, and what isnt working so well?
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:46 pm
by findmeifyoucan
It looks like a very interesting game and fairly realistic! I have not bought it yet but soon. It also looks like a once in a few generations game. If anything mabye even too detailed. lol
It may even pry me away from that other awesome game by Matrix, "War in Pacific Admiral Edition".
)
I will be more interested in the Grand Campaign though and bash those Russians all the way back to the Caucaus Mountains and the Urals. lol
RE: Road to Leningrad AAR (for Beginners)
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:16 pm
by topeverest
I bought this game and am starting a PBEM as the ruskies. Sure to get wiped, but I will learn the game in the process.
As an aside, I am dissapointed that the entire paper manual is not offered. I would have paid more if it meant getting the whole manual!
Half a manual is like half pregnant!