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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:51 pm
by Tophat1815
ORIGINAL: paullus99

I'd like to start seeing defensive lines built in front of Moscow - you have the opportunity to start digging in now, so you should take it (if you have the men available).

This is going into effect this next turn.I have 5 rifle divisions that will be doing just that. But its been a meat grinder and quite expensive in formations.

RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:55 pm
by Tophat1815
I'm falling back and trying to use terrain and the fact he has got to be having supply and tiredness issues in my method of falling back. I need about 3+ good turns before Leningrad will be where I want it for siege. On the plus side of the coin he seems to be pushing through south of Smolensk with a main push.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:59 pm
by Tophat1815
Trying to keep him from making the "BIG SWEEP" of envelopment action,I move back. I can fall back like this all the way to Moscow.

I now have: Depleted divisions coming in. They have basically a battalions worth of men,some 800-900 troops and few guns. Are these the type of shells that will take 2+ weeks to fillout I can now expect to see?

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:01 pm
by Tophat1815
More retreating,line straightening/shortening to free up units and attempt that checkerboard or layered defense.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:04 pm
by Tophat1815

A major pullback in the Kiev area for space and to start getting a major river obstacle ready. All industry west of Kiev has been railed out already.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:09 pm
by Tophat1815
My how my once proud Southwest Front has been handled in 6 weeks. At the least 1 to 2 corps of armor's destruction was due to my throwing them into the attack. Those Romanians will pay for luring me in dearly. Once the Axis ally is gone,German troops will need to be spread thinner to fill the gaps.

"Revenge is a dish best served cold eh?" I'm waiting for winter......

RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:14 pm
by Tophat1815
Southwest Fronts current situation:

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:15 pm
by Tophat1815
And rounding it out my South Front at the end of Turn 6:

I have a rifle division dug-in at Odessa,they are the defenders until they are dugout.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:44 pm
by ComradeP
I now have: Depleted divisions coming in. They have basically a battalions worth of men,some 800-900 troops and few guns. Are these the type of shells that will take 2+ weeks to fillout I can now expect to see?

Yup.

RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:46 pm
by randallw
New divisions need a 4th week before they are really ready to fight.

RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:59 pm
by Tophat1815
Thanks for the reply fellows on the "Depleted shell divisions",not what I wanted to hear but its not a surprise either. I'm going to take particular attention of Axis AFV losses this next turn,hopefully after another "bound" into my defenses guts. He must rest and re-organize sometime. Looks like I have some shell divisions on the way to Moscow.....Hope AGS needs a weeks breather!

I have a number of cavalry divisions,my plan......

                  1) Look for opportunity and dart in to isolate those brave hard driving panzers! Buy myself a turns respite as his infanty slogs their way to the rescue of his over-eager tankers!

                                 Plan B..............

                  2) Practice looking impressive for this years May day celebration in Sverdlovsk

RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:27 pm
by randallw
You can put shell divisions near the back of your defensive line; they'll dig in while receiving equipment and men.  Having them dig in way back at their arrival town/city doesn't help much.

RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:49 pm
by Tophat1815

Tracking the amount of armor the Germans are loosing,seems some of these panzer divisions must by now be getting light. Also with close to 160,000 casualties and the mechanized forces doing a good deal of fighting they have to be hurting.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:54 pm
by Tophat1815
Air losses are some 9 to 1 in favor of the HUNS! But with 1,000+ aircraft lost the Luftwaffe is taking damage as well.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:58 pm
by Tophat1815
I'm not very pleased about this at all! I've lost another 47 units this past turn alone. The 2 pockets he formed on the Smolensk front have both more or less disappeared. I had to move my airbases back and lack of sufficient resupply aircraft cost me some divisions.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:02 pm
by Tophat1815
I was wrong,it wasn't a lack of supplies that caused a loss of those pocketed units. The Germans attacked all along the pockets,here is just one example:

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:09 pm
by Tophat1815
Well here is a good example of the RED Army being able to stop the Germans,just give them some terrain to hide behind.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:17 pm
by Tophat1815
In his haste moses forgot about that pesky island southwest of Tallinn in the Baltic states. Surprise,surprise but 2 Rifle divisions and an NKVD rgt are there.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:36 pm
by Tophat1815
In my zeal I didn't notice the bad news about Tallinn being lost. And the division that was holding it was ripped-up and left in an unready state.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends)

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:47 pm
by Encircled
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Great AAR

Only managed three turns as the Germans on Road to Leningrad and awaiting my manual, so currently absorbing as much info as possible.

I've a lot to learn!
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