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RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:10 pm
by JJKettunen
ORIGINAL: Chliperic

Moreover, an AI has the right to do silly or sypid things from time to time. even some real Generals did the same, [:D]

Very true!

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:55 pm
by Chilperic
OK.Objective regions must be garrisoned by regular units, not militia. A bug of the official version.

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:52 pm
by JJKettunen
Thanks for the info!

One would think that militia units are perfect for garrisoning purposes. [;)]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:43 pm
by Chilperic
ORIGINAL: Keke

Thanks for the info!

One would think that militia units are perfect for garrisoning purposes. [;)]


Only objectives are affected. Others cities may be garrisoned by militia without problem. In you game, this has cost you certainly several hundred of VPs.

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:44 pm
by Nikel
ORIGINAL: Chliperic

Very interesting indeed. Many thanks [&o] and good holidays


Good [:)]


Just a small trip, tonight in Porto, tomorrow in Viana do Castelo and then back to Galicia in Spain for some sea food [;)]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:47 pm
by Nikel
ORIGINAL: Chliperic

OK.Objective regions must be garrisoned by regular units, not militia. A bug of the official version.

In the manual, p.13 it is said:

Important Note: In order to gain credit for a captured Objective or Strategic city, a player must garrison the
location with a regular unit (i.e. no Irregulars, Militias) if the region has a Loyalty rating less than 51%.



Regarding the german help option you added, you are using a graphic already available (Brest-Litovsk), is not better to use a new and different graphic?

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:53 pm
by JJKettunen
ORIGINAL: Nikel

In the manual, p.13 it is said:

Important Note: In order to gain credit for a captured Objective or Strategic city, a player must garrison the
location with a regular unit (i.e. no Irregulars, Militias) if the region has a Loyalty rating less than 51%.

Doesn't explain me getting no points for Ekaterinodar and Novorossijsk though - loyalty over 51%.

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:05 pm
by Chilperic
Yes but the manual is often not accurate [:D]. Thanks Nikel, I should have looked in the rulebook first. Now it's possible the rule is relaxed whatever the Loyalty or it is a bug restrained to this peculiar point.

I've not had time to search for a better option picture ( I did for Semyonov). This picture isn't used as far I know in the GC. But if you find a better one...[:)]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:06 pm
by JJKettunen
ORIGINAL: Keke

ORIGINAL: Nikel

In the manual, p.13 it is said:

Important Note: In order to gain credit for a captured Objective or Strategic city, a player must garrison the
location with a regular unit (i.e. no Irregulars, Militias) if the region has a Loyalty rating less than 51%.

Doesn't explain me getting no points for Ekaterinodar and Novorossijsk though - loyalty over 51%.


I'll be damned... both are actually below 51%... Maybe I should read the manual more often?

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:11 pm
by Chilperic
ORIGINAL: Keke

ORIGINAL: Keke

ORIGINAL: Nikel

In the manual, p.13 it is said:

Important Note: In order to gain credit for a captured Objective or Strategic city, a player must garrison the
location with a regular unit (i.e. no Irregulars, Militias) if the region has a Loyalty rating less than 51%.

Doesn't explain me getting no points for Ekaterinodar and Novorossijsk though - loyalty over 51%.


I'll be damned... both are actually below 51%... Maybe I should read the manual more often?


So not a bug but a feature working as intended. Good news. [:)] I should re read the rulebook too [8|]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:22 pm
by Nikel
Confused right now, bug or not? [:'(]

Ekaterinodar is garrisoned by a light but regular unit, is it not?

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:24 pm
by Chilperic
ORIGINAL: Nikel

Confused right now, bug or not? [:'(]

Ekaterinodar is garrisoned by a light but regular unit, is it not?


Manual must be uncomplete , partially unaccurate. Good pick indeed, light infantry seems to be unfitted for garrisoning objectives too. Personnaly, I can live with.BTW, it gives one more reason to use corruption and authorize multipartism options [:)]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:30 pm
by JJKettunen
ORIGINAL: Chliperic
ORIGINAL: Nikel

Confused right now, bug or not? [:'(]

Ekaterinodar is garrisoned by a light but regular unit, is it not?


Manual must be uncomplete , partially unaccurate. Good pick indeed, light infantry seems to be unfitted for garrisoning objectives too. Personnaly, I can live with.BTW, it gives one more reason to use corruption and authorize multipartism options [:)]

Do note that I used them very early in the game. They didn't disappear and from earlier experience I knew that I could use them anytime as long as there were EPs enough available. Because I knew it wasn't WAD, I didn't do it. Sorry for not reporting this earlier.

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:31 pm
by Chilperic
ORIGINAL: Keke

ORIGINAL: Chliperic
ORIGINAL: Nikel

Confused right now, bug or not? [:'(]

Ekaterinodar is garrisoned by a light but regular unit, is it not?


Manual must be uncomplete , partially unaccurate. Good pick indeed, light infantry seems to be unfitted for garrisoning objectives too. Personnaly, I can live with.BTW, it gives one more reason to use corruption and authorize multipartism options [:)]

Do note that I used them very early in the game. They didn't disappear and from earlier experience I knew that I could use them anytime as long as there were EPs enough available. Because I knew it wasn't WAD, I didn't do it. Sorry for not reporting this earlier.


Thanks, I will look at. [:)] Finally a bug. Mine. [:D]

And fixed. Next version [8D]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:46 pm
by Nikel
Thanks to Keke your plans to continue modding Struggle for a Vast Future in Augusts are somewhat ruined [;)]

or are you doing both in parallel? Good night to both of you [:)]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:55 pm
by JJKettunen
G'night. [:)]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:11 pm
by Chilperic
ORIGINAL: Keke

G'night. [:)]


Let's hope you will not dream about Voroshilov taking the right decision [:D]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:12 pm
by Chilperic
ORIGINAL: Nikel

Thanks to Keke your plans to continue modding Struggle for a Vast Future in Augusts are somewhat ruined [;)]

or are you doing both in parallel? Good night to both of you [:)]


I hope not. AACW is simpler than RUS( smaller map, better design of the original game and part of the mod yet done ).

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:24 pm
by Nikel
Oops, still here, very late, though 1 hour less here [:)]

RUS was not awarded, both for WitE

http://www.alanemrich.com/CSR_pages/res ... eYear=2010


Now good night, really [:)]

RE: Fatal Years for 1.03

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:30 pm
by Chilperic
ORIGINAL: Nikel

Oops, still here, very late, though 1 hour less here [:)]

RUS was not awarded, both for WitE

http://www.alanemrich.com/CSR_pages/res ... eYear=2010


Now good night, really [:)]

For graphism, I prefer those of RUS, but WiTE are excellent too.