RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:06 pm
Keep on truckin' ;]
What's your Strategy?
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Ground combat at 81,49 (near Changteh)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 36781 troops, 368 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 960
Defending force 42536 troops, 221 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 825
Japanese adjusted assault: 636
Allied adjusted defense: 889
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
2665 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 275 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Allied ground losses:
807 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 76 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Assaulting units:
13th Division
34th Division
36th Division
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
2nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
20th Group Army
Ground combat at Gasmata (103,127)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1830 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61
Defending force 845 troops, 15 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 26
Japanese adjusted assault: 14
Allied adjusted defense: 40
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)
Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
64th Naval Guard Unit
Defending units:
Lark Force
1 NE of Chengteh - 9 Zero with 16 light bombers; ground bbGround combat at 89,57 (near Wenchow)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 11425 troops, 104 guns, 56 vehicles, Assault Value = 222
Defending force 9449 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 156
Japanese adjusted assault: 88
Allied adjusted defense: 313
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)
Japanese ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
238 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Assaulting units:
17th Division
Defending units:
100th Chinese Corps
25th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force
100th Corps still putting up a good fight even after getting kicked out of base!!
Ground combat at Koepang (68,116)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 1731 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 70
Defending force 1111 troops, 0 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 33
Japanese adjusted assault: 88
Allied adjusted defense: 17
Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Koepang !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
228 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
1089 casualties reported
Squads: 39 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 59 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
4th Ind.Mixed Rgt /13
Defending units:
Timor Cdo
Completes Japanese capture of Timor.
Ground combat at Makassar (65,106)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1302 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38
Defending force 2017 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60
Japanese adjusted assault: 8
Allied adjusted defense: 41
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 1)
Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
III/66th Naval Guard Unit
II/81st Naval Guard Unit
Defending units:
Makassar KNIL Cdo
Makassar RK Cdo
So, if in this particular mod, oil is tight for Japan (as it should be) - what can you do to bite into that Achilles heel?
Ground combat at Cebu (80,86)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 11949 troops, 98 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 364
Defending force 6443 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 166
Japanese adjusted assault: 466
Allied adjusted defense: 97
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Cebu !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)
Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
6507 casualties reported
Squads: 202 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 267 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 62 (62 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 4
Assaulting units:
33rd Division
Defending units:
81st PA Infantry Division
Cebu Constabulary
1st Port Maint Engineer Battalion
8th PAAC Avn Sup
Ground combat at Langsa (46,74)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 4672 troops, 40 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 135
Defending force 1357 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 32
Japanese adjusted assault: 49
Allied adjusted defense: 5
Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Langsa !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)
Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
308 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 3
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
Defending units:
Medan Cdo
Van Aarsen Cdo
Medan Defenses
Makassar - 11 NellGround combat at Kendari (70,106)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 7430 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 226
Defending force 1028 troops, 13 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 26
Japanese adjusted assault: 386
Allied adjusted defense: 45
Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Kendari !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)
Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
492 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 17 (11 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
Defending units:
Kendari KNIL Cdo
Kendari ML Base Force
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
G4M1 Betty x 31
G5N2 Liz x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 19 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed by flak
G5N2 Liz: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 3
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
BB Idaho, Bomb hits 1
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
BB California, Torpedo hits 1
Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 24
G4M1 Betty x 29
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 6 damaged
B5N1 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 1
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 3
BB Idaho, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2
DM Montgomery, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
DMS Chandler, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage
AK Alchiba, Torpedo hits 1
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
17 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
20 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
OUCH!!
Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 6
G4M1 Betty x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged
Allied Ships
BB California, Bomb hits 2
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Idaho, Bomb hits 1
DM Pruitt, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
Repair Shipyard hits 1
Port hits 2
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
A6M3 Zero x 16
B5N2 Kate x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 10 damaged
Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Just 1 NE of Pearl...
Japanese Ships
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
PC PB-65
PB Kosin Maru #3
AR Akashi
AR Yamabiko Maru
AR Jairal
AS Nagoya Maru
AKE Toyama Maru
AKE Syoan Maru
Allied Ships
PT-20
PT-21
PT-22
PT-23
PT-24
PT-25
Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 51 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 127
B5N2 Kate x 198
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 8 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied Ships
BB California, Bomb hits 15, on fire
BB Idaho, Bomb hits 14, on fire
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 6, on fire
AR Medusa, Bomb hits 1
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AO Neosho, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Farragut, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
APD Ward, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Laida, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1
AV Wright, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AM Vireo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 1
DM Ramsay, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
Port hits 13
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Night Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 181,107, Range 12,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu, Torpedo hits 1
BB Hitachi
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hamakaze
DD Tanikaze
DD Kasumi
DD Yunagi
Allied Ships
PT-33
PT-35
PT-36
PT-37, Shell hits 1
PT-38
PT-39
Day Time Surface Combat, near Lahaina at 185,106, Range 21,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CV Akagi
CV Amagi
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu
CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku
CVL Tokachi
CVL Kushiro
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CL Shirbetsu
DD Akizuki
DD Teruzuki
DD Susuzuki
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Yugumo
DD Akigumo
DD Makigumo
DD Kagero
DD Urakaze
Allied Ships
PT-46
PT-47
PT-48
PT-59
PT-60
Now I know exactly what KB is made of...
Day Time Surface Combat, near Lahaina at 186,108, Range 22,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
CL Jintsu
CL Ishikari, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
DD Mikazuki
DD Kamikaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Oite
DD Sawakaze
Allied Ships
BB California, Shell hits 56, heavy fires, heavy damage
Sunk later when 4 Betty find her and a single TT hit is enough to finish her off.
Ground combat at 45,73 (near Langsa)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 4636 troops, 40 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 131
Defending force 912 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 18
Japanese adjusted assault: 102
Allied adjusted defense: 3
Japanese assault odds: 34 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Allied ground losses:
513 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Units destroyed 1
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
Defending units:
Medan Cdo
Van Aarsen Cdo
Medan Defenses
Ground combat at Soerabaja (56,104)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 23998 troops, 199 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 651
Defending force 13899 troops, 186 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 184
Japanese adjusted assault: 309
Allied adjusted defense: 145
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
Japanese ground losses:
1778 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 180 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
846 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 76 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (7 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
4th Division
38th Division
Defending units:
3rd Cav Sqdn
6th KNIL Regiment
Mobiele Battalion
III Landstorm Cdo
Roodenburg Cdo
II Landstorm Cdo
Marinier Battalion
Soerabaja Defenses
A-II-Ld AA Battalion
Lijfwacht Cav Sqdn
II Marechausse Cdo
Tjiitjap KM Base Force
4th Cav Sqdn
VLG-V Sup Groep
HQ III KNIL Division
VLG-II Sup Groep
NI-MLD
Soerabaja KM Base Force
VLG-IV Sup Groep
Madoeng Defenses
VkA-1 Sup Afd
VkA-4 Sup Afd
4th ID takes the brunt of the losses and disablement.
Ground combat at Makassar (65,106)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 6983 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 263
Defending force 1770 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43
Japanese adjusted assault: 347
Allied adjusted defense: 3
Japanese assault odds: 115 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Makassar !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2283 casualties reported
Squads: 93 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 81 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2
Assaulting units:
III/66th Naval Guard Unit
65th Brigade
II/81st Naval Guard Unit
Defending units:
Makassar KNIL Cdo
Makassar RK Cdo
Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 51 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 145
B5N1 Kate x 5
B5N2 Kate x 226
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 22 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 1
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP St. Mihel, Bomb hits 1
BB Idaho, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
BB California, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Repair Shipyard hits 2
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

ORIGINAL: ny59giants
I've used the lower number TF theory at Manila before and in this game. There, I have the first few TF be minesweepers and head for potential minefield at Bataan. Works well!!
How many ships are left in that herd?
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
How many ships are left in that herd?
About 45. Most of them are my faster ships - AR, DM, DMS, APD, DD, 1 CL, etc.
One thing that I think John didn't think far enough ahead on, is what he will need to leave in Hawaii after he takes Pearl?? Garrison will need to be two to three whole divisions, BFs, Air HQs, and support troops plus lots of Nell/Betty and Zero air groups to be able to reach far enough out to hit any potential invasion TFs that may or may not ever come. For Japanese players like Lowpe, is that a cost you would be willing to pay in a PBEM game?? The cost to me besides all of my old BBs stationed there and some other ships is pushing me outside my comfort zone of having Pearl as a hub. He will get most of the fuel (500,000). However, I will have the use of two divisions (24 & 25) by end of '42 or early 43 that will be rebuilt with minimal PP cost, all those support troops that are usually in Pearl or Hawaii as garrison.
I really am unsure about all the extra troops added in this mod, and the reduced shipping and stockpiles available, but it wouldn't bother me at all if I were the Allies. Especially if China remained viable.