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Posted: **Tue May 30, 2017 8:40 pm**

It does cut the rate of flow down.

Posted: **Tue May 30, 2017 8:41 pm**

ORIGINAL: Mundy

It does cut the rate of flow down.

Should not be a problem at all.

Posted: **Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:33 pm**

26 February 1942

Australians and supply are busily unloading at Karachi. There's still about 135k on the ships, plus some troop remnants. Overall, India is in good shape with regard to supply. Even Diamond Harbor is up to about 30k, which they were nowhere near a few weeks ago. About a day or two and my troops will clear Tavoy. I'm now shipping more troops and base forces directly to Moulmein. Once built up more, my planes will make the move south from Rangoon. I'm watching for those battleships he's had in the area. My carriers departed Colombo to cover and search for them.

Troops in Australia are a mess. My troops trying to escape in the north are taking who knows what path to get out, and seemingly going nowhere. He takes his first shot at Sydney.

Ground combat at Sydney (90,167)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 33157 troops, 343 guns, 285 vehicles, Assault Value = 1311

Defending force 18085 troops, 144 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 323

Japanese adjusted assault: 949

Allied adjusted defense: 1253

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2743 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 269 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 36 (2 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
719 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 55 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled

Assaulting units:
III./4th Infantry Battalion
144th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
61st Naval Guard Unit
Kure 1st SNLF
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
I./124th Infantry Battalion
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
II/81st Naval Guard Unit
16th Army
4th RF Gun Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
Banks Fortress
298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
North Fortress
25th MG Battalion
19th Infantry Regiment
Rarotonga Det.
Carnavon RAN Base Force
1st Australian Army
RAAF Command
Australia Command
RAAF OTU Sydney

I've been busy reassigning all my subs in the area to Melbourne, since I'm not confident of Sydney holding out that long. Melbourne does have plenty of fuel there, since there's probably less industry around to burn it.

My convoy is now 3 days away from Bataan. I was gong to move a unit in Manila to the hex SW of there, as it's a level 3 port, but I was blocked from leaving. If I knew I would just sail on in like this, I would have brought a pack of battleships along to soften things up. I may have to pull a War Plan Orange event early in my next game, knowing how things are here.

Batavia's still under siege, with just a bombardment there. Same in Manila. I was driven out of one empty hex in China, and am going through the daily bombings there. Once I get enough APs in Pearl, I'll kick off the Gilberts Campaign. I just loaded a bunch of flak units in San Francisco for delivery.

Posted: **Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:07 pm**

27 February 1942

Batavia finally falls, securing Java for the Japanese.

He takes another shot at Sydney.

Ground combat at Sydney (90,167)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30930 troops, 340 guns, 293 vehicles, Assault Value = 1103

Defending force 17467 troops, 144 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 255

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 781

Allied adjusted defense: 1037

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2034 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (6 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
630 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 14 (3 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Assaulting units:
144th Infantry Regiment
III./4th Infantry Battalion
I./124th Infantry Battalion
9th Tank Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Division
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
Kure 1st SNLF
2nd Engineer Regiment
61st Naval Guard Unit
II/81st Naval Guard Unit
16th Army
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
4th RF Gun Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
North Fortress
25th MG Battalion
19th Infantry Regiment
298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
Banks Fortress
1st Australian Army
RAAF OTU Sydney
Carnavon RAN Base Force
RAAF Command
Australia Command
Rarotonga Det.

Being on slow ships, reinforcements to Melbourne are still about 3 weeks away yet. Hopefully I hold that long. If he takes Sydney, there's next to nothing in the way to Melbourne.

Some of my troops in the north fight their way out, and are loose again, for now.

Ground combat at 91,150 (near Emerald)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6013 troops, 65 guns, 89 vehicles, Assault Value = 235

Defending force 225 troops, 21 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 154

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 154 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 26 (26 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 20 (16 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
4th Aus Cav Brigade
6th Aus Cav Brigade
13th RAAF Base Force
1st RAAF Base Force
Eastern Command
17th RAAF Base Force
14th RAAF Base Force
4th Australian Lt AA Regiment

Defending units:
7th RF Gun Battalion

My Philippines convoy is rounding the coast of Samar, still totally unseen. Two days out.

Some KB related intel:

CV Zuikaku is located at Rabaul (106,125).

Nobody will interfere with my Philippines convoy.

Posted: **Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:31 pm**

28 February 1942

Perth takes an attack and holds out.

Ground combat at Perth (49,147)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8571 troops, 91 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 204

Defending force 6721 troops, 96 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 114

Japanese adjusted assault: 64

Allied adjusted defense: 149

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
854 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 28 disabled

Allied ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
16th Engineer Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
Miura Det
45th Field AA Battalion
47th Field AA Battalion
31st Fld AA Gun Co

Defending units:
7th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
10th Light Horse Battalion
13th Australian Brigade
Freemantle Fortress
Port Hedland RAN Base Force
Western Command
Broome RAN Base Force
4th RAN Base Force

Lots of ground units arrived this turn, including some at Sydney. There, a commando unit and some artillery. The artillery there, including the fortresses will start bombarding. More arrived in India, where I can shuttle them around to the needy garrisoned bases and eliminate that points leak.

My convoys will arrive and start unloading at Bataan next turn. Looking it over, as I've forgotten, I have two infantry regiments, one armored battalion, probably 4 fighter squadrons, two dive bombers, and maybe 4 level B-26 type squadrons. Add to that two VP squadrons for search. Oh yes, some combat engineers, too. I'm not sure how much this will tip things at Manila, but some fresh troops can only help. That and having bombers working them over too. I may hit the northern airfields where he's flying against my troops now.

Troops arrived in New Zealand also, so I've spent the points and an shipping a NZ brigade plus artillery to Melbourne. Sydney's holding up pretty good right now, so I should have enough time to get the reinforcements from Aden in-country.

Posted: **Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:00 pm**

ORIGINAL: Mundy

28 February 1942

Perth takes an attack and holds out.

Ground combat at Perth (49,147)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8571 troops, 91 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 204

Defending force 6721 troops, 96 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 114

Japanese adjusted assault: 64

Allied adjusted defense: 149

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
854 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 28 disabled

Allied ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
16th Engineer Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
Miura Det
45th Field AA Battalion
47th Field AA Battalion
31st Fld AA Gun Co

Defending units:
7th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
10th Light Horse Battalion
13th Australian Brigade
Freemantle Fortress
Port Hedland RAN Base Force
Western Command
Broome RAN Base Force
4th RAN Base Force

Lots of ground units arrived this turn, including some at Sydney. There, a commando unit and some artillery. The artillery there, including the fortresses will start bombarding. More arrived in India, where I can shuttle them around to the needy garrisoned bases and eliminate that points leak.

My convoys will arrive and start unloading at Bataan next turn. Looking it over, as I've forgotten, I have two infantry regiments, one armored battalion, probably 4 fighter squadrons, two dive bombers, and maybe 4 level B-26 type squadrons. Add to that two VP squadrons for search. Oh yes, some combat engineers, too. I'm not sure how much this will tip things at Manila, but some fresh troops can only help. That and having bombers working them over too. I may hit the northern airfields where he's flying against my troops now.

Troops arrived in New Zealand also, so I've spent the points and an shipping a NZ brigade plus artillery to Melbourne. Sydney's holding up pretty good right now, so I should have enough time to get the reinforcements from Aden in-country.

If this is stock, you can unload at Clark Field as well. It has a port, which I believe is better than the port at Bataan. (I have my extended map open now, in which Clark is land-locked, so I do not recall with clarity the size of the port at Clark.) You can move directly from Bataan to Clark without passing through Manila. This will also help you maintain air cover over the unloading units.

If Sydney holds until reinforced, his entire campaign is in serious jeopardy. A Gilberts campaign at this point woud threaten to effectively cut off the entire IJA expeditionary force in Australia. He will have to move KB and surface assets north to ensure the supply and fuel route from Japan to Truk to Australia remains open.

Japan is not omnipotent in the early months of the war, despite many allied players' impressions. There are not as many land-combat units as most allied players think. Japan has, in total, about 12 free divisions, some support, and some SNLFs. He can buy out one division per month from Manchuria. If he buys armor, artillery, aviation support, or AAA, this number is reduced, however.

Try to get a count of his divisions (about 425 AV each) and see what, if anything, he has remaining to deploy. My guess is, any reinforcements he gets at this point, will have to trickle down to Australia from Mancuria: quite the voyage. If the Phillipines and Gilberts are in allied hands, this voyage is perilous indeed.

Posted: **Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:49 pm**

He's retaken Clark, so that's a no-go.

Here's a list of troops from combat reports going back to January. This is for all of Australia. I don't know how many, if any of the regiments are divisional fragments.

10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
144th Infantry Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
16th Army
16th Engineer Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Recon Regiment
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
20th Infantry Regiment
22nd Recon Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment4
26th Recon Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
2nd Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
38th Division
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
3rd Tank Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
4th Division
4th RF Gun Battalion
56th Recon Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
61st Naval Guard Unit
6th RF Gun Battalion
7th RF Gun Battalion
8th Recon Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
Guards Mixed Brigade
I./124th Infantry Battalion
I./4th Infantry Battalion
II./4th Infantry Battalion
II/81st Naval Guard Unit
III./124th Infantry Battalion
III./4th Infantry Battalion
Kure 1st SNLF
Kure 2nd SNLF /2
Miura Det
Sasebo 2nd SNLF

Posted: **Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:12 pm**

Most Japanese infantry division, when broken down, are 3 infantry regiments (or 1 brigade and 1 regiment), 1 recon regiment, and 1 artillery regiment.

It looks like he has about 5 1/2 divisions in Australia, plus some SNLFs and about 33% of the support units available in Australia. That leaves him about 6 1/2 divisions elsewhere plus anything he may have bought out of Manchuria. So count up what is at Batavia, on Luzon, in Sumatra, and Burma-Thailand.

It is sort of strange assortment of units. For example, the Miura Detachment is part of a Formosa infantry regiment, which can (and should at some point) be rebuilt into a division, but most the other elements of the division are not there. (I believe the 48th recon is an element of that division as well, but I may be mistaken). Also he has the Guards Mixed Brigade there, which is a poor unit, lightly equipped, and best used for garrison duties. This unit came all the way from Saigon. He has 2 elements of the 124th regiment, but not the 3rd. These units came from Cam Ranh Bay. He has the 4th infantry regiment there broken down into component parts, but has not rebuilt it.

He seems sort of strung out with units bogged down in numerous theaters and not enough in any one theater to carry the action there to conclusion. You will win this game by the end of 1943, I suspect.

Posted: **Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:32 pm**

Sorry, I was just doing my orders for Japan in one of my games, and I see that that "Guards Mixed Brigade" that he has in Australia is actually a restricted unit from Tokyo that he must have bought out from the Home Islands. (There is a "Guards Battalion" at Saigon). The first recon is also a unit from Manchuria (part of the 1st division, a fine division BTW). So his force in Australia already contains several restricted units and about one month of PP purchases. With your landing at Luzon, I would suspect that he must send future "bought-out" units to Luzon, rather than Australia. What you see now is likely all that you will have to contend with in Australia for some time.

Posted: **Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:29 pm**

Interesting update - my thanks.

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Most curious.

Do you (or other vet posters) in this thread have any idea as to the objectives ?

It must be a Victory Point / Auto victory type play - so much I gather even with my limited experience.

However against all out- rather all in - in Australia

1) China is holding and possibly has fewer IJN troops

2) The Philippines are holding even though Pallemebang fell. Singapore is still untouched other than the Mersing gambit (?)

3) I would anticipate no activity in Burma because there are no troops and therefore the Burma road is open therefore China looks even better than before..

4) Australian reserves are being triggered. If I am not mistaken this would include Kiwi / British/ Canuck reserves as well.

I realize that (some of) troops are weeks from the Australian front but the coast line alone.... so long as Melbourne / Adelaide are still accessible.... Japan cannot contest a counter invasion everywhere along the coast line of Australia??

Autovictory is possible in this scenario ? i.e. without China ? without the Philippines ? without New Zealand AND Australia ?

Posted: **Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:37 pm**

ORIGINAL: Mundy

28 February 1942

My convoys will arrive and start unloading at Bataan next turn. Looking it over, as I've forgotten, I have two infantry regiments, one armored battalion, probably 4 fighter squadrons, two dive bombers, and maybe 4 level B-26 type squadrons. Add to that two VP squadrons for search. Oh yes, some combat engineers, too. I'm not sure how much this will tip things at Manila, but some fresh troops can only help. That and having bombers working them over too. I may hit the northern airfields where he's flying against my troops now.

Well done, this is a very bold move on your part. How much total supply?

Could you post a world map?

Posted: **Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:19 pm**

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

Interesting update - my thanks.

--

Most curious.

Do you (or other vet posters) in this thread have any idea as to the objectives ?

It must be a Victory Point / Auto victory type play - so much I gather even with my limited experience.

However against all out- rather all in - in Australia

1) China is holding and possibly has fewer IJN troops

2) The Philippines are holding even though Pallemebang fell. Singapore is still untouched other than the Mersing gambit (?)

3) I would anticipate no activity in Burma because there are no troops and therefore the Burma road is open therefore China looks even better than before..

4) Australian reserves are being triggered. If I am not mistaken this would include Kiwi / British/ Canuck reserves as well.

I realize that (some of) troops are weeks from the Australian front but the coast line alone.... so long as Melbourne / Adelaide are still accessible.... Japan cannot contest a counter invasion everywhere along the coast line of Australia??

Autovictory is possible in this scenario ? i.e. without China ? without the Philippines ? without New Zealand AND Australia ?

I think it is just a product of inexperience on the part of the Japanese player. He does not seem to understand Japan's limitations and the economic necessities that govern Japan's early war planning. He also does not seem very familiar with the disposition of allied forces and never seems to bring enough to finish the job. Japan cannot tackle 4 or 5 major offensives. It most focus on two, win those, and move on quickly.

Play in Australia can support a strategy for autovictory, but often more net points (after taking into account the heavy Japanese ground losses that will ensue in Australia) can be gained by a limited Australian campaign focused more on strategic bombing than conquest of the entire country.

I would think that the Australia play also supports a "long-term" Japanese strategy that seeks to win by running out the game clock since strategic bombing points produce a "permanent" pool of points that the allied player must overcome to win.

Posted: **Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:35 pm**

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

Interesting update - my thanks.

--

Most curious.

Do you (or other vet posters) in this thread have any idea as to the objectives ?

It must be a Victory Point / Auto victory type play - so much I gather even with my limited experience.

However against all out- rather all in - in Australia

1) China is holding and possibly has fewer IJN troops
China is mostly stable, though he's made some inroads. He has taken bases in the far north (Hami, etc) Changsha and north are stable, and I did take Ichang

2) The Philippines are holding even though Palambang fell. Singapore is still untouched other than the Mersing gambit (?)
He did take Singapore some time back. Palambang only recently fell.

3) I would anticipate no activity in Burma because there are no troops and therefore the Burma road is open therefore China looks even better than before..
The Burma area is very quiet on his part, though he has a bunch of troops at Tavoy, which I couldn't crack. I plan to push east from Moulmein into Thailand.

4) Australian reserves are being triggered. If I am not mistaken this would include Kiwi / British/ Canuck reserves as well.
I don't think I got much more than about 2 divisions from the reserves. Some Kiwis just arrived last turn but they're restricted.

I realize that (some of) troops are weeks from the Australian front but the coast line alone.... so long as Melbourne / Adelaide are still accessible.... Japan cannot contest a counter invasion everywhere along the coast line of Australia??
I'm hoping to unload at Melbourne yet. He won't easily or quickly take the whole coast.

Autovictory is possible in this scenario ? i.e. without China ? without the Philippines ? without New Zealand AND Australia ?

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Well done, this is a very bold move on your part. How much total supply?
Thanks. I think I only brought about 50k. Bataan currently has about 40k.
Looking at the IJN search situation, as Aurorus mentioned, Japanese search assets are very weak overall, and are probably mainly at Truk and the Marshalls.
In my next game, I would be sorely tempted to do a massive reinforcement in the first month to the PI. I think a true War Plan Orange scheme is feasible. KB would be busy supporting conquests around the map. Restricted units and PP allowance would probably be the biggest cap on such a scheme.

Could you post a world map?
I'll try to remember next turn. I'll look at VP values too. I tend to not care about VPs and just like to fight the war out.

01 March 1942

It looks like things are going south at Sydney. I was hoping for at least another week out of them. Maybe the Japanese will stumble next turn.

Ground combat at Sydney (90,167)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 50928 troops, 524 guns, 368 vehicles, Assault Value = 1617

Defending force 19243 troops, 220 guns, 263 vehicles, Assault Value = 262

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 1039

Allied adjusted defense: 857

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1606 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 106 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 43 disabled
Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (5 destroyed, 36 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1220 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 57 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 31 (4 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
20th Engineer Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
Kure 1st SNLF
4th Division
2nd Engineer Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
144th Infantry Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
61st Naval Guard Unit
III./4th Infantry Battalion
38th Division
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
I./124th Infantry Battalion
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
II/81st Naval Guard Unit
4th RF Gun Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
16th Army
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
2/7th Ind Coy
298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
19th Infantry Regiment
25th MG Battalion
North Fortress
2/5th Ind Coy
Banks Fortress
Carnavon RAN Base Force
RAAF OTU Sydney
RAAF Command
2nd Medium Regiment
1st Australian Army
2nd Australian Hvy AA Regiment
Australia Command
1st RAAF M/W Sqn
21/22 Field Regiment
Rarotonga Det.

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Ground combat at Sydney (90,167)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2139 troops, 77 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 163

Defending force 52075 troops, 523 guns, 439 vehicles, Assault Value = 1426

Assaulting units:
19th Infantry Regiment
298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
2/5th Ind Coy
RAAF OTU Sydney
2nd Australian Hvy AA Regiment
1st Australian Army
Carnavon RAN Base Force
RAAF Command
North Fortress
1st RAAF M/W Sqn
Banks Fortress
Australia Command
21/22 Field Regiment
25th MG Battalion
2nd Medium Regiment
Rarotonga Det.

Defending units:
61st Naval Guard Unit
144th Infantry Regiment
III./4th Infantry Battalion
38th Division
4th Division
20th Engineer Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
Kure 1st SNLF
16th Infantry Regiment
I./124th Infantry Battalion
II/81st Naval Guard Unit
4th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
16th Army
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

All my planes are unloaded at Bataan, and the troops are starting. I have 3 fighter squadrons (1 USAAF, 2 USMC), two dive bomber squadrons, two VPs, two B-26s and one O-47. Once they get uncrated, I'll deal with his planes in the north and then support Manila.

The secret should be up with my carriers there.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 83,82

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 9

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Hanakawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hakuyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Hanakawa Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Hakuyo Maru

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 83,82

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kumakawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAKL Hanakawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Hanakawa Maru

My flights were probably light due to my carriers sitting on Bataan. I'm moving them a hex away to free them up. Refueling my carriers ate a bunch of fuel from my oiler, where her internal fuel is now pretty low. I'll have to send more oilers out on the return journey to get everyone back. My SB2Us on board were set to extreme range, so they'll be reaching out and hitting stuff within quite a radius.

I'm thinking when Hornet and Wasp arrive, I'll send them to also prowl the Japanese home islands and smack shipping. If KB wants to play in Australia, I'll make him pay.

With him going full bore into Australia, I don't know how feasible a move by him to New Zealand would be. He would need a lot of troops for that, as I have the equivalent of at least two divisions there. I have mostly a bunch of brigades there now.

My biggest bottleneck is a lack of people transport. Once my ships in the PI return, I'll probably move to the Gilberts. He can't defend everything, and I would like to pinprick him to death.

Posted: **Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:35 pm**

In my game I am the allies it is 24 June, 42 I still hold Palmenbang, but just loss my last base in Java. My opponent has almost all of Burma but still lacking a few DEI southern Islands. He pushed farther and faster is SE Pac taking bases south of Tahiti which he also took. I have taken back those bases including the recent retaking of Penrhlyn Island south of Christmas Island. He dopes have the troops freed up from taking Java to deploy, so i will have to see where he might move next. A limiting factor is he has lost 3 CVLs, 1 CS and at least 1 CV and probably 2 crippled with maybe one of those also sunk. So he may be limited to one avenue of offensive if he requires carrier support. The point difference in about 1.9 to 1 in favor of the Japanese. A VP screen of your game would be enlightening.

Posted: **Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:00 am**

That is a good plan in my opinion. Go for the Gilberts and try to threaten the entire route from Manchuria to Austria from east and west. Make him patrol that route constantly with his CVs (just be careful to avoid them with your CVs) and try to hit and run supply and reinforement convoys.

With some naval search at Clark, your deployment of naval air on Luzon will force him to cover any reinforcements coming to Luzon with fighters. He will be very strung out in the air and on the ground. Looks good.

Posted: **Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:35 am**

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: Mundy

It does cut the rate of flow down.

Should not be a problem at all.

+1

SOP to an IJ player. [;)]

Posted: **Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:57 am**

Really interesting game. He's willing to trade Manila for Sydney ... interesting gambit if he actually pulls it off. If he is able to sack Melbourne as well ... that is a much bigger impact upon you in the long run (losing those aircraft factories).

So it really gets down to whether he can accomplish those two goals and then exit clean. Your goal will be to prevent his clean exit. If you kill his troops, it won't matter that he took Syd/Mel for a few months. Those troops are hard and $$$$ to replace for the IJ.

As for the PI, I don't think it will matter in the long run unless he makes mistakes. The allies simply don't have the assets to hold on to it in '42. I've played out that portion a lot of times (take it early in '42, take it late in '42), it really doesn't change much for the IJ. And really, this is still early in '42 yet. The only way this works out for you is if you are able to hold onto to into '43 ... then it can get scary for the IJ ... but that would take a big error on the IJ part ... with Java taken, expect some reinforcements to arrive at Clark soon ... in particular, air units which you cannot match up against.

Just my thoughts ....

Posted: **Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:38 am**

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Really interesting game. He's willing to trade Manila for Sydney ... interesting gambit if he actually pulls it off. If he is able to sack Melbourne as well ... that is a much bigger impact upon you in the long run (losing those aircraft factories).

So it really gets down to whether he can accomplish those two goals and then exit clean. Your goal will be to prevent his clean exit. If you kill his troops, it won't matter that he took Syd/Mel for a few months. Those troops are hard and $$$$ to replace for the IJ.

As for the PI, I don't think it will matter in the long run unless he makes mistakes. The allies simply don't have the assets to hold on to it in '42. I've played out that portion a lot of times (take it early in '42, take it late in '42), it really doesn't change much for the IJ. And really, this is still early in '42 yet. The only way this works out for you is if you are able to hold onto to into '43 ... then it can get scary for the IJ ... but that would take a big error on the IJ part ... with Java taken, expect some reinforcements to arrive at Clark soon ... in particular, air units which you cannot match up against.

Just my thoughts ....

I think that Mundy is still holding out at Batavia with 2 1/2 Japanese division tied up having a large number of disabled squads (correct me if I am wrong Mundy). It should be a month before those divisions are able to take Batavia, regroup, and then redeploy (probably more like 6-8 weeks). Once regrouped those units at Batavia will yield up about 1200 AV for Luzon. To get a fully supplied, reinforced allied army out of Luzon will take about 3000 Japanese AV: a little less if all the heavy artillery is there. So, his opponent will need 4 more divisions from Manchuria to take Luzon if the army there is in supply. That's 5 months worth of PP purchases (assuming he uses some PPs for other things, like commanders and so forth). Mundy now has almost 100k supply on Luzon. That is enough for 5 months once he gets Manila's industry producing a little for him.

So, nothing is going to move him from Luzon for the next 5 months. If he uses the U.S. subs to bring in more supplies from Burma, he could last maybe 7 months with what he has now. By July, he may very well be in a position to send another major supply and reinforcement convoy to the PIs with heavy CV cover. Whatever the case, his opponent must now guard the entire cent-Pac corridor continuously, because if another large convoy with supply and more reinforcments reach Luzon, all of the kings' horsemen will not get the U.S. out of there.

How does it feel Mundy having 3 JFBs tell you how to beat Japan?

Posted: **Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:45 am**

All the more permanent VP's for the IJ to harvest ...

Posted: **Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:02 am**

I think Pax is right, the troops are nice but it is supply that kills Luzon. I don't think that the Allies can fight and save Luzon. Plus with the planes and troops added, the supply is super low, imho.

Another interesting option would have been to invade Sendai or Iwaki on the Japanese coast line. I would go for Senadai as there are more things there to destroy.

However, it is very interesting and I will happily be proved wrong.[:)]

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