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Hi, Rather then increase port size to enable mine loading just add a MLE to OOB.
You could make the MLE a barge or hulk (speed 0)
submarines only require an AS to reload mines. For torpedos you need an AD but once again you could assign a barge or hulk to each port. This would mean when enemy captured port they would not automatically gain the ability to load mines or torpedos before they also moved AS/MLE/AD type ship to location.
A speed 0 ship could move (2 hexes per day) but it would not be able to move far or rapidly. This would simulate the difficulty required in moving mine/torpedo capacity that was actually shore based to a new location.
Many older vessels were converted to hulks that while unable to move were used as a ports facilties for ammo loading or tender duties.
So these speed 0 vessels would be more a port facilty then the more moblie MLE/AS/AV/AD ships. Perhaps a number for both side could be added to OOB. (I'd put at least one in every major port at start of game and then perhaps have a few more in reinforcement tract. (make 1 for every 2 or 3 Naval baseforce)
along with this you could reduce the SPS for a number of ports on the map.
The enemy would then have to damage/destroy the vessels to reduce capabilty for reloading mines/torpedos.

nice force there in Koepang Rob, should be a very tough nut to crack. Where's that AA Rgt that starts at Lateum?, adding it to Koepang would work great considering Nik's AA modifications.

Not a bad looking situation in Timor [:D] I think he will have hard time if and when he comes in with his army.

Just be careful what to reveal since 2ndACR seems to be reading this AAR too or make a deal with him not to look inside this thread.

He does not read any sensitive stuff. just pops in to say something then leaves [;)].

The AA is still in lautern .. ill post that today. also CD and inf in lautern too. 2 small dutch units in dili as well. Im trying to build up lautern to a size 2 a/f to operate swordfish[;)].

All units in Timor are 100% prepped too. ( bar 1 i forgot) and forts slowly climbing. plenty of supply too.

What i did with a lot of dutch was move them to australia to medicate the disabled squads then sent them back where i wanted them. the longer he waits the tougher it will get. I have a 2nd aussie brigade prepped for koepang in derby and plenty of AP's to move it when i have enough PP's to do so (soon).

Mining group will sew 600 mines off koepang tomorrow .. i'd prefer to send them to lautern but thats too exposed.

MOG ? .. umm did you mean to post that here ?.

I like the idea of barges to do that. but won;t it be too easy to use minelayers then ? as for brit/dutch mle's .. i have sent some brit ships east to san fran for refit as MLE/AS/AR units for use in india later on. As i believe vurrent build won't allow US ones to replenish non US units.

Here we go again ..

and for starters here is the most useless piece of information i have ever seen in an
allied intel report

"Radio transmissions detected at Prince Rupert."

DUH .. umm wonder who that could be ! With 3 PBY squadrons covering the area i'd
have seen any japs coming or going.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/15/42

chinese a/f did a little annoyance run today

Day Air attack on Hanoi , at 36,37


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 11


Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 1 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet
3 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet

acceptable .. pilots now in themid 70's experience.

singapore is getting hit hard heres an example as its a quiet day ]

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34
Ki-21 Sally x 36
Ki-49 Helen x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 23 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 14 damaged


Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 42

supply down to 1600 ! .. even with bomber and float plane transports.
Cats were intercepted last turn .. so im thinking he;ll expect me to stand
down .. so ive increased the flights to max. Also an ak with 1200 supply one hex
from singers. ( only 1200 as i dont expect her to last very long .. 42 damage alreay)
Huricanes flown in just in case its a deterrant.

Unsuprisingly he's hitting my bornea TB base . cept they arent there any more

Day Air attack on Singkawang , at 25,57

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G4M1 Betty x 18

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

Bulla also falls today

Ground combat at Bulla

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 754 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 50 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bulla base !!!


He;s atarted a small bombing offensive in burma against the BFF inf thats covering
mandalays left flank. humm .. maybe LR fighter cap from imphal will be a suprise in a few days.

anyway .. picture of lautern as promised. not as tough as koepang but better then
usual.

Been a while since the update as scotty had a tough week at work and Fell asleep all day yesterday [:D]. 10/10 for original excuses [;)]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/19/42

Japan attacked an AK heading to Singapore and missed

Sub attack at 20,59

Japanese Ships
SS I-159

Allied Ships
AK Boelongan


Then my little port raid on Singapore worked out.

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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 11


Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
SS I-166, Bomb hits 1, on fire


hitting a sub is a bonus !

The APD's reported in balikpapan harbour were MSW ..

Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
MSW W.10, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Port supply hits 1

All helps though .

thats about it for today.

72 P40's and 72 P39s 3 days our from brisbane ! .. will be sent to N australia ASAP.

US RCT loading at Aukland for noumea, all helps ! ..

The SW and Spac patrols are all up and running with multiple PBY and Coronado units. Small bomber units in Palmyra and suva Primarily on Naval search as ASW planes ( good exp).

Its gone ominously quiet in the DEI once again. where will he go next i wonder? Im loading up even more troops from derby to Koepang, this leaves Derby a bit weak so I ordered up an aussie div from brisbane a few weeks back and shes crawling along to take up defences here.

Thats all folks ..

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/21/42

another quiet day,

bah missed !

Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Yubae Maru
APD APD-37


and we held again in the woods NW of Canton

Ground combat at 43,40

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 155952 troops, 1796 guns, 28 vehicles

Defending force 117714 troops, 853 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
5298 casualties reported
Guns lost 128
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1095 casualties reported
Guns lost 35



Very very quiet , hes getting a bit frustrated at not hurting manilla more, cant say i blame him really, im in the red supply (3780). but he keeps bouncing off 2 forts.

Flak over singapore is not too shabby too.

Day Air attack on Singapore Fortress, at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 39
Ki-49 Helen x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 destroyed, 20 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged


Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 7000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet

Also 2.5K supply 2 days out and another ak loading up. fingers crossed.

Americal div loading up in the west coast for aukland , then probably onto luganville or normea, depends on situation. more AV support loading up for australia too. Need engineers in cairns/cooktown badly.

Reinforced PM with an aussie brigade and dropped off more supply.

140 fighters 1 day away from brisbane .. badly needed as fleet coverage a/c in derby .

End of the day [>:]

It is somewhat suprising that you still do have a firm foot hold both on Manila and Singapore [:)] What is the current victory point situation btw?

Seems that you are moving troops to New Caledonia. So does this mean that allied push will start at Guadacanal later this year? [:)]

Im not too sure about guadalcanal . i have a plan involving LR CAP and APD's moving up seebees in mid/late 42 here. I will keep the pressure up on the marshalls .. mainly baker is .. as im sure it will eventually fall .. Also i am hopeing that my timor defence will make an aussie landing impossible .. well thats the plan .

Scotty just said

" I wish they would hurry up and fall. They are throwing my timetable way off. I should have been on Java long ago. Now I will have to take the time to rebuild the units before moving there. And that sucks. There will be fort 9's everywhere if they are not already there."

So im not sure if its my efforts or the nik mod effect thats slowed him down so much. He's referring to manilla and singapore , i've offered to sacrifice both ( i.e shock attack out ) to have a better game ( i.e doesn't finish before june 42 ) .. We will see what happens , I doubt he'll accept anyway ..

VP scren i tend to do at the end of month summary .. but ill post one for you next turn .. aren't i nice [:D]


p.s if i remember .. wine sodden brain cells have a habit of .. somthing .. humm .. yeah .. oh yes .forgetting [:D]

ORIGINAL: aztez

It is somewhat suprising that you still do have a firm foot hold both on Manila and Singapore [:)]

I'm coming to the conclusion that holding out at these two locations are crucial for the allies early in the game. From my own games & from the AARs, the games where the allies get trounced well outside the SRA (like the PzB game) Singers falls quite early. The AmiralLaurent game might be an exception.

ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
p.s if i remember .. wine sodden brain cells have a habit of .. somthing .. humm .. yeah .. oh yes .forgetting [:D]

I know what you mean... Australian Chardonnay .. huh, what whas that?

P.S. Pic of the DEI? I'm curious.

Well the US did hold out on Bataan till nearly 5/42. Manila gives the defender the urban hex bonus which greatly increases his defensive factors. Almost "not crickett" to use it since MacArthur wanted anything but for his precious capitol to become a battleground. Not sure about Singapore. Some players have major problems with it.....others sweep it. Depends. Myself, I always strive to isolate Singapore and prevent resupply, even if i have to risk IJN units to do it (from those damn Vildebeasts)

Other than that....yes, the mod will slow the pace down. Thats a good thing IMO given all the complaints about Japan running all over the map. [;)] Same will go for the Allies after they start marching back. (ye olde bomb every base in range of 2E/4E into stone age with 6000feet 24/7 attacks)

I'm about to lose Manila in my game with Speedy (gates are creaking....supply is GONE and he succeeded in getting a 1:1 odds on fort 0 one day....but the troops ralied for one more 0:1 Its nearly 5/42. He's also at the Dutch capital too though. The rest of Java is his but i still hold Timor. Delay has given me time to start building defenses......elsewhere [;)]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

Well the US did hold out on Bataan till nearly 5/42. Manila gives the defender the urban hex bonus which greatly increases his defensive factors. Almost "not crickett" to use it since MacArthur wanted anything but for his precious capitol to become a battleground. Not sure about Singapore. Some players have major problems with it.....others sweep it. Depends. Myself, I always strive to isolate Singapore and prevent resupply, even if i have to risk IJN units to do it (from those damn Vildebeasts)

Other than that....yes, the mod will slow the pace down. Thats a good thing IMO given all the complaints about Japan running all over the map. [;)] Same will go for the Allies after they start marching back. (ye olde bomb every base in range of 2E/4E into stone age with 6000feet 24/7 attacks)

I'm about to lose Manila in my game with Speedy (gates are creaking....supply is GONE and he succeeded in getting a 1:1 odds on fort 0 one day....but the troops ralied for one more 0:1 Its nearly 5/42. He's also at the Dutch capital too though. The rest of Java is his but i still hold Timor. Delay has given me time to start building defenses......elsewhere [;)]

Completely agree, in all the games IM playing I use your mod and they have a "nice" pace to them now.

I'm certainly not complaining about the Mod's pace I like it. [:D]

Next day .. new turn and it was actually eventful (ish)

He's started to mine my harbours now, Ive been aware of mines in soerbaja
for a while and cant seem to get and MSW to sweep them so im ignoring the
problem for now ..

He;s starting mining australia

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/23/42

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TF 1079 encounters mine field at Townsville (46,103)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.10, and is sunk Looks odd but sank in port at balikpanan

Allied Ships
MSW Poole
MSW Mildura
MSW Bunbury
PG Fritillary

Ive 4 MSW to clear the harbour as this is my main AP base and sub base for NE aussieland.

Having a pair of dutch Recon planes flying from Wuuchow to honk kong
improved the IL4's raid a bit

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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 9


Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
SS I-166, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage NICE

Port hits 1 cost supply to repair it ..

Day off tomorrow , they get fatigued quick after a long trip from chungking

Theres the usual ground pounding in china ..e.g

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Day Air attack on 23rd Mixed Brigade, at 40,38


Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 19
SB-2c x 33


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Day Air attack on 93rd Chinese Division, at 32,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-48 Lily x 21

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported

lots more jap raids than that though and all escorted

My SB's are now upto late 70's exp and in range of the coast if he comes back
to bombard nannang <sp> ..

Large japanese bombardment t/f spotted coming (i assume) to palambang.

Day Air attack on TF at 24,52


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 14
Martin 139 x 13
Beaufort V-IX x 12


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged
Martin 139: 11 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
CA Kumano
CA Mogami
DD Satsuki

Several attacks from there and batavia resulted in 2 dead blenhiems and no hits.

A lone PT awaits at the base and the ak loading up has been brought into dock.

Also all flyable a/c sent to safer climes.

My Buffs flying LR cap over the transports to singapore got hammered

Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
G4M1 Betty x 13
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Boelongan, Torpedo hits 1 not too bad actually

Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
G4M1 Betty x 6
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Sipora MISSED !!!!

Excellent .. 2 AK's unloading now in singers . if i get whats left ashore it'll be
around 3.5k supply .. much needed . AK sipora has already unloaded 800.

And after a long quiet spell in the solomons Rennel is fell

Ground combat at Russell Islands

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1444 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 82 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Russell Islands base !!!


I have Zero forces here and its expendable anyway. only PM/noumea and luganville/efate
have any real priority. Unfortunately all my small minefields around a lot of bases here
have dissipated. was hopeing to bag a few transports at lae/shortlands etc. no luck.

Tomorrow i expect a big bang in central sumatra ( the Ise/Haruna group) and
a concerted effort to sink the ships at singapore. heres hopeing for bad weather as ive withdrawn the LR buffs ( only 2 survived).

Sorry i forgot the victory screen ! oops

hers a picture of the singapore area to make up for it

bye bye

He's started to mine my harbours now, Ive been aware of mines in soerbaja
for a while and cant seem to get and MSW to sweep them so im ignoring the
problem for now ..

when you form the Mine warefare TF, be sure to set it's destination to the port it's sitting at, set to Do Not retire and then click "undock"

It should sweep.

I did , and it didn't .. even based it at kragen and sent it south to sweep with do-not-retire and nowt happened .. very odd .

Nothing valuabe is likely to be hit in soerbaja anyway. only subs come here now and they seem good at avoiding mines anyway.

hmmm if you have a save. send it to me. I'll take a look

Try setting the destination to the hex of the port instead of the port. Do this by setting destination to the port (click on the port), then set destination again by right-clicking on the port hex. You should see a hex coord instead of the port name in the TF destination.

I have to do this in addition to setting the home port to some other port before it will sweep.

Thanks mynok , thats a convoluted way of doing it but sounds right
Ill give it a whirl next turn.

Nik . thanks for the offer but i hope mynoks solution will work.

The war continues ..

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/24/42

Quiet day, but i held manilla against all odds

Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 107432 troops, 619 guns, 150 vehicles

Defending force 72840 troops, 366 guns, 179 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
2123 casualties reported
Guns lost 72
Vehicles lost 7

Allied ground losses:
619 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 1

Oddly enough most troops have zero supply but the overview says 3,500.
Must be spreadout in the combat formations, i seem to use 100/day or 200
if combat occurs. so not long to live now. Scottys stated that he's very short
on engineers as they all got clobbered in the naga woods defence and couldnt
get replacements as it was malarial. looks like this hex is a valuable
defensive base. makes lamon bay no longer a possible flanking attack as
a bonus too.

More chinese have boosted the numbers in changsha.

Ground combat at Changsha

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 250111 troops, 2790 guns, 27 vehicles

Defending force 122348 troops, 654 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
181 casualties reported

several more corps have been sent from chungking and henchow.

I cant see hes got enough to attack elsewhere so im having a probe
toward ighang and the crossroads north of yenen. Im guessing he's got
a single mongilian cav unit here. a full corps is preparing to cross the
river and assault.

as promised points piccie ..

The point score looks great [:D]

If he has 250 000 men assaulting the Changsa than I would assume he is going to have 2 separate spearheads. 1 Going towards Changsa and other ... ???

Manila seems to be lost cause soon but you did delay his advances nicely so that's not an bad result at all.

Okey dokey 2 days in one update ..

ASW efforts between koepang and derby is paying dividends

ASW attack at 28,78

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33, hits 5

Allied Ships
PG Warrego
DD Tenedos
DD Van Ghent
DD Peary
DD Bulmer
DD Barker

then an amusing surface combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 20,55

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
BB Ise
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CA Mogami
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CL Jintsu
DD Murasame
DD Yudachi
DD Satsuki
DD Nagatsuki

Allied Ships
PT TM-11 SURVIVED !

then the expected bang

Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mogami
CA Ashigara
CA Maya
CA Atago
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro

Allied Ships
AK Tjikandi, Shell hits 1


Allied ground losses:
518 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 5

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 32
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

ok all things considered ..

My subs seem to have had a wake up call the last 2 days too

Sub attack at 48,69

Japanese Ships
AP Ryoyu Maru #21, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tasei Maru
MSW Takasago Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII

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Sub attack at 34,63

Japanese Ships
MSW Mejima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tamaura Maru
MSW Seki Maru
MSW Kaiyo Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Sealion

More japanese coming into singapore too

Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 102731 troops, 631 guns, 6 vehicles

Defending force 62517 troops, 267 guns, 14 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)


Japanese ground losses:
1021 casualties reported
Guns lost 23

Allied ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

the river crossign rule really should be suspended when a bridgehead has been established.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/26/42

this came as a suprise!

Night Air attack on Canton Island , at 98,99

Japanese aircraft
H8K Emily x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x H8K Emily launching torpedoes at 200 feet

EEK, i have a BB and a CV here .. i hope the AA will deterr him as thats nasty losses
for experianced EMilys

The great british sub offensive continues

Sub attack at 35,46

Japanese Ships
AP Ryotaku Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Truant HOORAH for Truant !

Then RO-33 got chased again and again

ASW attack at 28,78

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33

Allied Ships
MSW Warrnambool
MSW Toowoomba
MSW Colac
DD Parrott
DD Paul Jones
DD John D. Ford

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Sub attack at 28,78

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33, hits 7

Allied Ships
DD Parrott
MSW Warrnambool
MSW Toowoomba
MSW Colac
DD Paul Jones
DD John D. Ford


MINES ! .. what mines ? hehe i dont alway mine the obvious places

TF 81 encounters mine field at Menado (39,67)

Japanese Ships
AP Kenzan Maru, Mine hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported FULL TOO !

The Indian AF is getting braver ..

Day Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 16
Blenheim IV x 27
B-26B Marauder x 42


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

Then i challeneged the mighty Zero im burma !

Day Air attack on 93rd Chinese Division, at 32,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-48 Lily x 27

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 3 destroyed, 11 damaged


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Not bad ! .. not bad at all .. all damaged made it home, and the fight is over
allied troops west of mandalay.

Since january i have been pulling out the damaged burmese and indians by air from
mandalay. Time to send back the 1st burmese ! .. much better condition now.:-

Im doing some recon in force in n china aztez .. tomorrow i find out some news