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ORIGINAL: wargameplayer
Really angry and frustrated with the misleading status reports. This license should be pulled and it should be assigned to a dev team that can deliver on it's promises.

ORIGINAL: wargameplayer

I was on these forums 2-3 years ago and said one person is unrealistic to get this project done.
The developer (Steve)--told me more people would slow him down. He asked me to repost the conversation because he didn't believe it and I did. The guy can't keep his story straight.

I got universally flamed by all the faboys on here by posting back then...

But here are a couple of thoughts.

1) A team is needed to do a project this big.
2) many people waiting for this project literally died waiting. The developer posted misleading reports about how far he was. Sorry, but two years ago, we were seeing posts "almost done". It wasn't almost done.
3) The developer spends way too much time on the forums here. I don't really care about how you are doing i your men's chorus. Sorry, I just don't.
4) The fanboys come on here and flame anyone who says the project is off track. Hey if you guys hadn't been such blind followers maybe the project would have been assigned to someone with the resources to actually get the job done.

Really angry and frustrated with the misleading status reports. This license should be pulled and it should be assigned to a dev team that can deliver on it's promises.

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: wargameplayer

I was on these forums 2-3 years ago and said one person is unrealistic to get this project done.
The developer (Steve)--told me more people would slow him down. He asked me to repost the conversation because he didn't believe it and I did. The guy can't keep his story straight.

I got universally flamed by all the faboys on here by posting back then...

But here are a couple of thoughts.

1) A team is needed to do a project this big.
2) many people waiting for this project literally died waiting. The developer posted misleading reports about how far he was. Sorry, but two years ago, we were seeing posts "almost done". It wasn't almost done.
3) The developer spends way too much time on the forums here. I don't really care about how you are doing i your men's chorus. Sorry, I just don't.
4) The fanboys come on here and flame anyone who says the project is off track. Hey if you guys hadn't been such blind followers maybe the project would have been assigned to someone with the resources to actually get the job done.

Really angry and frustrated with the misleading status reports. This license should be pulled and it should be assigned to a dev team that can deliver on it's promises.

Warspite1

And so the same old refrain continues. I totally understand your frustration in waiting for this game, but how about you give us some answers instead of the benefit of your "thoughts".

Have you done all the various calculations for this enlarged development team? How big does it need to be? What is the trade-off in time and cost? With the new team in place, how much will this game cost Matrix to bring to the market vs the profit to be earned? You know for a fact do you that Matrix can afford such a budget (and that by definition, they are simply choosing not to spend that money - as one poster maintains)? You know the number of likely purchasers of the product? You know the economics do you? If so please, please stop just stating I want more, more, more but instead why not share the info with us.

So you think the license should be pulled and given to a development team that will throw the required money at the project to get it done quickly. Which companies will step in to the breach then? You know for a fact there are many such firms out there? They have a much bigger budget than Matrix do they - and importantly, do not mind making a loss on the game if development costs are too high? Please, name them, better still, tell ADG who they are and they can get the Matrix license revoked and this alternative developer - sorry development team - can get working straight away; should have the game by June - Simples!!

Please try and understand, those who you see as "blind followers" may just be ordinary folk who have a sense of proportion, a sense of balance, a life. They know that just because you want something, you don`t necessarily get it when you want it; sometimes we have to wait for things; that`s where the irritants in real life kick-in - you know profit and loss, shareholders etc.

Oh and by the way, stop with the "Fanboy" nonsense.

ORIGINAL: BumMcFluff

Well, it's been two years since I last checked in here to see when this dreadnought would be completed. I was roundly chastised for my lack of faith and my doubts etc. It's now two years later, and ... we're still waiting. But hey, who am I to complain? I certainly don't want to spark off another 'this is a big job' or 'maybe if you helped' or 'you don't know the difficulties' or whatever.

- Yes, it's a big job, bigger than anticipated, but so was fighting the actual war, and that only took six years (less if you're American, more if you're Japanese or Chinese).

- I don't help car manufacturers, plumbers or electricians either, because they're supposed to know what they're doing.

- No, I don't know the difficulties, but I don't explain the difficulties of my job to my clients, because it's not professional.

Oh well, see you in another two years. I expect I'll be bagged in my absence, but I would prefer the effort went into the game instead.

ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

ORIGINAL: BumMcFluff

Well, it's been two years since I last checked in here to see when this dreadnought would be completed. I was roundly chastised for my lack of faith and my doubts etc. It's now two years later, and ... we're still waiting. But hey, who am I to complain? I certainly don't want to spark off another 'this is a big job' or 'maybe if you helped' or 'you don't know the difficulties' or whatever.

- Yes, it's a big job, bigger than anticipated, but so was fighting the actual war, and that only took six years (less if you're American, more if you're Japanese or Chinese).

- I don't help car manufacturers, plumbers or electricians either, because they're supposed to know what they're doing.

- No, I don't know the difficulties, but I don't explain the difficulties of my job to my clients, because it's not professional.

Oh well, see you in another two years. I expect I'll be bagged in my absence, but I would prefer the effort went into the game instead.

You will do your part, which is paying the game when and if you want to, the developers will end the game when they can. The rest is pure whinning.

If you cannot wait you can buy something else while you wait or instead of MWIF, which is what you can/would do if the contractor couldn't meet the dates in the real life.

You wouldn't (I hope) call every night the contractor asking him when he can go to your home/office and telling him how many workers he should get.[>:]

ORIGINAL: bo
As always Jose your calmness in the face of apathy in the release of this game amazes me, that is a compliment not a dig, I always respect your opinion because it is never harsh as some posters are in defence of Matrix. Nothing us naysayers can say will change the outcome or the release of this game but the forums are for people with different opinions you may call it whining but I call it maximum frustration. What I would like to know is will this game ever be completed by Matrix? I am serious about that statement, not trying to start trouble or so called trolling, I would like to know from you posters your heartfelt opinions about whether this game will ever come to fruitation, not when but if ever.

Not trolling

Bo

- Yes, it's a big job, bigger than anticipated, but so was fighting the actual war, and that only took six years (less if you're American, more if you're Japanese or Chinese).

- I don't help car manufacturers, plumbers or electricians either, because they're supposed to know what they're doing.

- No, I don't know the difficulties, but I don't explain the difficulties of my job to my clients, because it's not professional.

Oh well, see you in another two years. I expect I'll be bagged in my absence, but I would prefer the effort went into the game instead.

ORIGINAL: bo

As always Jose your calmness in the face of apathy in the release of this game amazes me, that is a compliment not a dig, I always respect your opinion because it is never harsh as some posters are in defence of Matrix. Nothing us naysayers can say will change the outcome or the release of this game but the forums are for people with different opinions you may call it whining but I call it maximum frustration. What I would like to know is will this game ever be completed by Matrix? I am serious about that statement, not trying to start trouble or so called trolling, I would like to know from you posters your heartfelt opinions about whether this game will ever come to fruitation, not when but if ever.

Not trolling

Bo

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: abj9562

I also believe the game will be completed and released. In fact it will be released when it is done and not a day sooner. [;)]

ORIGINAL: bo

Thank you Flipper for your insight see we can each express our views without animosity about this endeavour [not referring to you] and I will try to keep my opinions to myself for a couple of months [8|] maybe.

Bo

ORIGINAL: yesman68

Here's a question:  How much of Steve's time are we wasting discussing how he uses his time?  Does anyone else see the irony here.  Let the man work on the game folks, rather than wasting time responding to these non-essential comments.  [8|]

ORIGINAL: bo

What the hell am I talking about Flipper[&:]

Bo

• Matrix Games
• ADG
• Numerous volunteers doing extensive work on this project. Some disclosed and some not disclosed. Some of these people are under a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA) and can't say much if anything.
• Dozens of Beta Testers (past and present). All under NDA's too.